"The Mad Marksman"- A ranger test

ok, i tried this out with very little success.

1) you die so fast if anyone targets you its not even funny.
2) vengeance means you can heal anyone besides you monk. having a monk die in 30 more seconds with no way to prevent it is just asking for trouble.
3) the damage may be good but theres no way to stop anyone from healing so the whole build doesnt do much when your target can heal, blind you, etc.
4) if direct damage is what you are looking for, why not just go e/me and bring a mantra so nobody will rain interrupts on your parade?

maybe im just not getting it but this build is just not working for me at all I agree. I find that once you have to use Marksman's Wager, everything falls apart. By that time you normally have a few warriors on you. You also need to reapply kindle around that time. And Marksman's knocks off Serpents. So you need to reapply kindle, put up defense, put up healing, and try to get energy back and get Serpents up.

How can you discuss crazy damage without mentioning Barrage? Barrage only does crazy damage on large groups, not on individual targets. that and it cancels out any preparations. This build looks to be for individual dmg.

Barrage only does crazy damage on large groups, not on individual targets. that and it cancels out any preparations. This build looks to be for individual dmg. Actually I've noticed barrage adds considerable damage even to single targets.

Again. 100% Health, 100% energy. 1 sec from death. But you keep using your Vengence. What do u mean? I`ve already said why vengance is good. Besides, there r barely n e enchantment strippers in CA.


Barrage is ok, but it is an elite. And there are better ones out there for 4v4.

And marksmans wager is good. With one dual shot that hits, you get 16 energy. Just fine an easy target and shoot a couple arrows. About 3 shots gets ur energy to maximum. That is nothing. And there is a 20 second recharge, so it is not bad if u mess up with it, because u can use it again.

Actually I've noticed barrage adds considerable damage even to single targets. It does do good dmg to single targets, but only hits them with one arrow, so you don't get the added advantage with a vamp or zealous bow.

ok, i tried this out with very little success.

1) you die so fast if anyone targets you its not even funny.
2) vengeance means you can heal anyone besides you monk. having a monk die in 30 more seconds with no way to prevent it is just asking for trouble.
3) the damage may be good but theres no way to stop anyone from healing so the whole build doesnt do much when your target can heal, blind you, etc.
4) if direct damage is what you are looking for, why not just go e/me and bring a mantra so nobody will rain interrupts on your parade?

maybe im just not getting it but this build is just not working for me at all 1) I use the same skills to take care of myself(Whirling and Troll U), and i am staying alive. You sure it aint just you, who dont know how to play the build?
2) A monk dont die in the beginning of the match(Else the monk suck), and in 30sec the match is usually over.
3) Lets throw in some energy denial....... or? So all dmg builds suffer from the "healing" weakness? You aren't the only dmg dealer on your team, you know.
4) E/Me -> One of the targets -> Bad selfheal -> Dead E/Me

What happens when your blinded just before you fire off a dual shot w/ marksmans wager? Come on, how often do you actually think you will get blinded JUST before you throw off a shot? And to answwer your question, you run.

1) I use the same skills to take care of myself(Whirling and Troll U), and i am staying alive. You sure it aint just you, who dont know how to play the build?
2) A monk dont die in the beginning of the match(Else the monk suck), and in 30sec the match is usually over.
3) Lets throw in some energy denial....... or? So all dmg builds suffer from the "healing" weakness? You aren't the only dmg dealer on your team, you know.
4) E/Me -> One of the targets -> Bad selfheal -> Dead E/Me 1) I agree troll along with almost any evasive maneuver is usually enough to stay alive, though I prefer dodge since I get the ability to flee from an enemy (of course my build also includes crippling shot).
2) Matches tend to last over 30 seconds, though not always by much. If you are going against a team with a decent monk, the battle could last a while, in which case, you may find yourself stopping frequently to re-rez. I personally only like rez sigs in all PvP, but Vengeance comes admittedly in a good second place.
3) Admittedly, there is a weakness of diversity in this build, but all builds have their weaknesses and such is why a good balanced team is needed to win, not a bunch of relatively self sufficient builds put together. And what's this you are saying about energy denial? Energy denial is best left to a mesmer.
4) E/me is another example of how every build has it's weakness. Great dmg, good defense against interupts (except knockdowns), but little to no healing (Aura of Restoration is weak, sorry to say). Plus, by being a ranger, most teams won't aknowledge you as being the main damage dealer and thus will likely not target you as quickly.

Come on, how often do you actually think you will get blinded JUST before you throw off a shot? And to answwer your question, you run. I can do it with Ineptitude. Dual Shot takes much longer to fire than most people realize. With my custom UI, my target's skills take an extraordinarily long time before they're finished, which gives me plenty of reaction time to rock out an interrupt/blind like Inept.

Regarding the build itself...eh, I'm not feeling it. I was playing my Mesmer recently and faced a Ranger in RA who hit me with a Penetrating Attack that did upwards of 105 damage. After we lost, I whispered him to find out how he got the damage so high. He did a few things, some of which I don't see in this build:

1) Favorable Winds
2) Expertise and Marksmanship, with some in Wilderness Survival
3) Height advantage
4) Read The Wind

Read The Wind should be a must for any high-damage Ranger build as far as I'm concerned. RtW+Penetrating Attack racked up 100 damage easily on a soft target. Just imagine what that 20% armor penetration would do to a target who has more armor.