Annoying Ecto Sellers

Energizer Deth Buni

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Near Atlanta GA

MVoA

N/Me

Please check the price of Ecto on the vendors before you start selling them. At one point this week the price at the vendor had jumped back to 8 or 8.5. The vendor was buying them for 6.5k and I found people in TOA selling them for 6k????? Thank you for undercutting the already miserably low prices of Ecto. And does anyone know if Ectos are going to be used in the next Chapter? Thanks

Star Gazer

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

its really not anets fault that they opened a good place for noobs to collect all the ecto they can get their hands on. I think it is crap that ecto is so easily obtained now. It has to do with those 13-15 year old kids and say OMFG DOOD LOOK IM RECH NOW I GOTS ME AN ECT0! and sell for quick cash at merchant...sigh, I guess you cant really teach everyone how to properly play the game ;]

theVariable

theVariable

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

CA, USA

Knights of the Hokuten [KotH] (hokuten.org)

Mo/Me

Star Gazer, that's what the merchants are there for. People who value their time and that don't want to spam chat for trades have a way to get some quick gold. And as the NPC stock goes up, prices go down along with the player driven "demand". I'm sorry you can't impose your high prices on everyone, forever :P

Star Gazer

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

well see, if people were smart about it (hint hint), noone would sell a thing to the trader. they would say to themselves 'hmm, didn't I see ecto going for 14k a couple weeks ago? I think I will hold on to it until they go back up to make ::gasp:: MORE MONEY!' i mean honestly, its common sense. i guess people just lack that

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Star Gazer
well see, if people were smart about it (hint hint), noone would sell a thing to the trader. they would say to themselves 'hmm, didn't I see ecto going for 14k a couple weeks ago? I think I will hold on to it until they go back up to make ::gasp:: MORE MONEY!' i mean honestly, its common sense. i guess people just lack that
you fail to take supply and demand into account. if people hang on to it, they also run the risk of losing out if prices continue to fall.

anyway, the problem stems from the fact that there are no rare material traders in the outposts where you usually return after having acquired ecto. with prices as unstable as they are, it's annoying to have to tp somewhere just to check and tp back to make a sale or to buy. most people go with what they remember prices being the last time they checked.

Optime

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Runners Academy [LBS]

W/Mo

I really don't know why people complain that the ecto prices are too low. I just cannot understand it. Isn't a reduced ecto price better? Isn't it good that these materials are now more accessible to 'noobs'? (Also, why are they noobs? Because they don't farm the UW and therefore don't have loads of ecto? Hmm?)

Can anyone explain this for me, please?

Thanks,
Optime/Zanpaku To

Sonya of Red

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

To the OP. I don't see why your complaining. Heck, if someone wants to sell ectos for 500 less then the rare material trader will buy them for then buy them from him. For each one you buy you get 500 gold profit for abolutely no work or hassle. How is that a bad thing? Or am I misunderstanding something here?

Valdaran Longfoot

Valdaran Longfoot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Colorado, US

Furious Dragons Reign [FDR]

W/

People spam "selling ectos for **** each" when buying from the trader is half what they spammed for. It is very annoying.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

I always take the time to point out politely that sometimes their prices are wrong, a lot of the time I get flamed for doing so but sometimes the people are surprised and really quite nice about it. I have nice lengthy discussions and often close a trade on a completely unrelated item.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Gaile said that ecto will have a point in Chapter 2, so getting them for cheap is fine by me.

I always sell everything I get to the rare material trader. I'm not going to waste the time trying to find someone, who won't try to pull a scam, and is willing to buy it for the few extra hundred gold pieces that I could just sell it for. In all that time you could be spamming your sell message you could've just earned that back by joining up a group and playing the game.

coolsti

coolsti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Denmark

Sorry Stargazer, I always sell everything worth selling to the merchants, including ectos and shards. I for one can't be bothered standing around some outpost or town yelling WTS ...

SilentAssassin

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

same here, if i find something like runes wich are worth selling to merchants, I will do this, I am not going to yell 3 hours WTS ... so that I maybe have 1k more..

ghostlyranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

selling the ecto to merchant is not playing the game properly ??

let see who is the kids here that care so much about how other ppl play the game

Keyote

Keyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Star Gazer
its really not anets fault that they opened a good place for noobs to collect all the ecto they can get their hands on. I think it is crap that ecto is so easily obtained now. It has to do with those 13-15 year old kids and say OMFG DOOD LOOK IM RECH NOW I GOTS ME AN ECT0! and sell for quick cash at merchant...sigh, I guess you cant really teach everyone how to properly play the game ;]
You sound about 13 yourself...

I mean you say people going into the new dungeon are noobs, you whine about ectos being too easy to get, then say they cant play the game properly just because they play differently to you. People with your attitude are usually kids.

Angel Develin

Angel Develin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Lions Arch

Minions of Kronos

N/Me

OMG not selling to merchent? w8 till price for the items we keep go'e high o_O this is just a game the only thing I hear is not ecto but Greeed Greed, give me more, I want more, must have more. geeee and you guys say the 13 year olds are the 1 that are not playing it right??? lmao I think that in some way's they are playing it like it should be. They want to have fun and If some new player find a ecto he or she can sell it fast and get 5-6 k and buy a new armour or weapon so whay should they w8 for the prices to go up? I think that its you ecto guys that are keeping the gold value so low.

msmolke

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

Adult Swim

Mo/

lol...it totally depends on what side of the spectrum you are on. when i first started farming uw I would immediately sell my ectos in TOA when i got back because i needed the cash. With this money i could go purchase things such as runes and other stuff that was more important to me being able to develop my character.

today ive been sitting around in toa spamming WTB ectos 6.5k each for the rest of my fow armor. its not worth my time to go farm them out since i have the money to purchase the rest of them. but now im buying them from people just like myself a few months ago when i was broke and needed to sell the ectos i had to make a few bux here and there.

no one is newb or not newb for selling, hanging onto ectos, or even buying them, it just matters what is worth more to the individual person at that point in the game they are currently at.

sno

sno

Look into the Eye.

Join Date: Oct 2005

Detroit, Mi

Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Star Gazer
its really not anets fault that they opened a good place for noobs to collect all the ecto they can get their hands on. I think it is crap that ecto is so easily obtained now. It has to do with those 13-15 year old kids and say OMFG DOOD LOOK IM RECH NOW I GOTS ME AN ECT0! and sell for quick cash at merchant...sigh, I guess you cant really teach everyone how to properly play the game ;]
I love how you say that ecto is easily obtained 'now', as if it was hard before... When UW first opened, it was SO much easier to farm it than it is now, only most people lacked the vision to come up with the build for it. The thing that makes it 'easily obtained now' is that a few farmers came out with a nice build, and popped it up on the internet for the world of "13-15 year olds" (since you put it that way, I'll go ahead and assume you just turned 16 ) and then everyone started doing it.

This game is all about proper builds, and is MEANT to be 'easy' once you have the strategy/build perfected. It's certainly not ANET's fault that a couple people perfected a build and then EVERYONE started using it. They even tried preventing it (with the nerfed drop rate and added monsters,) but the smarter ones adapted, and fed it right back to the masses.

Quote:
sigh, I guess you cant really teach everyone how to properly play the game ;]
It's a game, if it wasn't intended for people to go in the underworld they wouldn't have created it. Just because you don't like how they do it doesn't make them any less 'proper'. Knock down the self-righteousness a few notches, hmm?

Effendi Westland

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Energizer Deth Buni
Please check the price of Ecto on the vendors before you start selling them. At one point this week the price at the vendor had jumped back to 8 or 8.5. The vendor was buying them for 6.5k and I found people in TOA selling them for 6k????? Thank you for undercutting the already miserably low prices of Ecto. And does anyone know if Ectos are going to be used in the next Chapter? Thanks
Laughing out loud

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Gasp at the fact, but there ARE people that don't care for spending alot of time doing anything. Time is Money. They might not want to log into other towns to sell it, or have to bargain for 10 for minutes to get 500 more gold - So they just sell them for what they know will be off their hands in 2 minutes.

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

Quote:
Originally Posted by Star Gazer
its really not anets fault that they opened a good place for noobs to collect all the ecto they can get their hands on. I think it is crap that ecto is so easily obtained now. It has to do with those 13-15 year old kids and say OMFG DOOD LOOK IM RECH NOW I GOTS ME AN ECT0! and sell for quick cash at merchant...sigh, I guess you cant really teach everyone how to properly play the game ;]
good...I hope ecto tanks to shit


Quote:
Originally Posted by Optime
Can anyone explain this for me, please?

Thanks,
Optime/Zanpaku To
farmer...greed

myword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Korea

Quote:
Originally Posted by Star Gazer
well see, if people were smart about it (hint hint), noone would sell a thing to the trader. they would say to themselves 'hmm, didn't I see ecto going for 14k a couple weeks ago? I think I will hold on to it until they go back up to make ::gasp:: MORE MONEY!' i mean honestly, its common sense. i guess people just lack that
i sold a stack of 250 ecto that i bought for 300g each during market reset to trader, i needed the space

Grim Daddy

Grim Daddy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

If anyone has ever tracked the prices of Green Items, they'd know that as soon as players started finding ways to farm Sorrow's Furnace the prices to these items went dramatically down as the market became flooded with them. The truth of the matter is that, without any sort of way to grasp the market firmly, the price offered for the ecto's both by the merchants & the players will continue to go down, so long as these new supplies keep coming in.

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Star Gazer
well see, if people were smart about it (hint hint), noone would sell a thing to the trader. they would say to themselves 'hmm, didn't I see ecto going for 14k a couple weeks ago? I think I will hold on to it until they go back up to make ::gasp:: MORE MONEY!' i mean honestly, its common sense. i guess people just lack that
That will not work. Anyone with a shred of microeconomics knowledge could tell you that.

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

I'll take my 6k now instead of my 6.5k 2 hours from now, thank you very much.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kais Unduli

I'll take my 6k now instead of my 6.5k 2 hours from now, thank you very much.
Not to mention, you could quite possibly go get another ecto in those 2 hours. 12k vs 6.5k.

Besides. There's only two money brackets that are important. Dirt poor and massively rich.

Unless you're massively rich, what really are you going to be buying that you NEED all that money for?

I've played since the game was released and I have about 225k without major merchanting (I've had 1 auction of any worth, which was 100k and most everything I come across I merchant unless it's rare and then I'll auction it), but want to know the cool thing? I've never been unable to get something I felt I 'needed' (IE: armor, runes, certain weapon mods).

Lord Thud

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

East Coast, USA

House Thud

R/Mo

I think everyone is missing the point of the thread here. You see Energizer bought this game to have fun. And the other 999,999 of us who also bought the game did the same so Energizer could have fun. Honestly that's why I shelled out the same amount of money he did. I want HIS game experience to be the best. I mean really, is there any other point in playing? Frankly, I've always wondered why the box didn't read "Energizer's Guild Wars".

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Optime
I really don't know why people complain that the ecto prices are too low. I just cannot understand it. Isn't a reduced ecto price better? Isn't it good that these materials are now more accessible to 'noobs'? (Also, why are they noobs? Because they don't farm the UW and therefore don't have loads of ecto? Hmm?)

Can anyone explain this for me, please?

Thanks,
Optime/Zanpaku To
Most likely they farmed/hoard a lot of ectos and are just being selfish and greedy, moaning about their wealth going down. Two words to the moaners: market forces.

Gildor Took

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Australia, 3rd rock from the sun

Mo/

some ppl complain because now fow isn't as "Special" as it once when u needed to be really rich to be able to afford it.

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

3 words

good....for...you

*edit* too those feeling sorry about thier ecto/fow armor

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

I've seen all kinds of things being sold for way too little or way too much. In either case, I'll whisper to the person that they should check the prices at the merchants. And 99% of the time I get a thank you, the other 1% is no reply at all. (the trick to getting this kind of response is to be polite when you're whispering them ) Standing around selling stuff gets boring, so people are glad to know that they may be asking too much for something, while at the same time they (mostly) don't want to be selling stuff too cheaply.

As for the Ecto prices, from what I hear, it's not dropping any more often than it was in the UW. People in Tombs aren't farming for ecto, they're working for those new greens. So, many of them are just selling the ecto to merchants to clear out their inventories - that's their choice. As it was your choice to spend all that money on FoW armor - regardless of how much ecto cost when you did.

(FoW armor's ugly stuff anyway, don't know why anyone would want it - with the possible exception of the female mesmer's stuff - IMHO)

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
(FoW armor's ugly stuff anyway, don't know why anyone would want it - with the possible exception of the female mesmer's stuff - IMHO)
Does that mean I can complain? Oh, it does? Cool. I bought my FoW armor when ectos were 10k... now all the griffon farming WMos that get lost in FoW will have fowarmor all the faster... ZZZzzz

Imho its much harder to get ecto from new tombs than Uw... I rarely see ecto drop there, if ever. Maybe 2-3 from the entire run. Compare that to the 2~ ecto per smite run, every day, of huge amounts of 2man teams...

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

Ok this is both hilarious and really sad. Actually complaining that ecto prices are too low?!? 6k a piece for something that you need at least 100 of is NOT cheap. That's 600k right there...

And the perception that you're somehow elite or special just because you can farm, farm and farm for ectos is pathetic. What's even more pathetic are people so afraid that they'll no longer be "special" that they start hurling insults at those who think ectos should be a "low" prices. I'm looking at you Stargazer.

Dont get me wrong... I probably will never get FOW armor because none of them really catch my eye. But I've always thought the prices were just too ridiculous. So before people like Linsys, accuse me of being a "noob" and wanting FOW Armor "easy"... I'M NOT GETTING FOW ARMOR.