gw melted my video card!

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

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Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

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Hahaha I just thought that this was raelly funny.


I was playing and all of a sudden my screen started flashing and my computer shut down. It wouldnt start back up...so after a few days of troubleshooting I ended up taking out my videocard and using the old one...and it worked.

My computer wont start up when I try to use my good videocard, so im stuck with integrated. But I found it funny, because any comp I put my videocard in wont start up...its totally busted

RIP ATI RADEON X700PRO

Inquisitor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

We Are All One

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Wow, that really sucks. I must say though, if it happened with GW it was probably coming at you anyway. Did you find out why it overheated? Playing too long or maybe a cooling issue?
At least you have a good excuse to buy a really kickass new videocard gl

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

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USA

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No money...but I highly doubt it was a cooling issue...as my computer doesnt have.......a case.... it still has a lot of fans though :\

I really cant figure out why it happened with gw and not a high end game...

LivingDeadGrrl

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Hey Mandy - I don't know if this is good news or not, but my sis just purchased an ATI X1800, and she couldn't even RUN Guild Wars with it. Finally she was able, and the card just ate itself. She sent it back to ATI, using an older card until they sent it back to her. Now, she's scared to put it back in, ain't that a slice? She can use it in its normal capacity, to record TV shows, but if she wants to game, she's got to shut the system down, put the old card in, and power it back up.

Have you gone to their website to see if it's still under warranty? Mine was, and I bought it almost 3 years ago. All I had to do was put in the serial number, and their system spit out an RMA at me. It's worth a shot!

Xenrath

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As suggested, get in contact with the manufacturer (or ATI if you bought the card from them direct) Most graphics cards come with at least another year's worth of "manufacturer warranty" on top of the "retailer warranty". Some have 3-5 years even.

Call the manufacturer up, they will usually be able to tell you if it still has some warranty from the serial number(s) on the card, and then you can get it fixed from them. In some cases they even just replace it with a brand new card, or newer one as happened to me when my old radeon 9700 broke

Alias_X

Alias_X

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Power supply not enough or something?

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

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USA

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nope everything is fine, its underwarrenty...but its one of those things that just takes time...

Its not "gaming" its just gw...i was playing all kinds of games fine (now im stuck with gw...it kinda runs on my integrated...and its the only thing)

Sagaris

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HAHA! It did the same with me! Actually I love A.Net for that, thanks to hem I got a new videocard from my dad! THANKS A.NET!

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

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I wonder why its only guildwars that does it. Perhaps someone smarter could tell us...

d3kst3r

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Switch to nVidia.

Narada

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I was wanting pictures of charred plastic, thanks for getting my hopes up.

GW probably does it because it because it's a resource heavy game. From the extensive visual detail, I think that this game is just one of those that's a bit harder on your graphics card than most, hence the common problem of overheating.

Skuld

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It melted mine, just got a new one :P Corrupt hard disc and graphics on everything splattered with green/pink lines

Kaguya

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Moon

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Had ATi R9800Pro, died when playing FarCry. Had memory heat sinks on it, huge VGA Cooler on it, not overclocked, and it just died, case fans and everything else working great, the card just said it's time to go. o_O

Might be some flaw in ATi's design, happy with my GF6800 now atleast

Skuld

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Yah mine was an 9800 pro, got a 9550 or something now, the only ATI none-pciexpress card in pcworld ><

Old Dood

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The 9800pro can get pretty hot. I still have one in my second game box (Daughter's puter now) and I made sure from day one that I have enough power and the PCI slot(and slot cover) next to it was open for extra cooling. It is 3 years old now and still running great.

Uzul

Uzul

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gw has always been heavy on the gpu -- i had to replace the fan on my 6600gt after a year of constant usage. i might have to add that the primary pc here is running almost 24/7 and the normal retail fans are just not made to hold longer than 12 months under these conditions.

to the op: sucks to hear it melted your card. how old was the card?
are you sure your gpu fan was working properly?
weak psus (power supply units) might work nicely until you have several usb devices running while you push your system to the limit.


oddly gw gets more temp on the card than anything else.
6600gt with zalman vf700cu temps#

standby windows (multiple tasks open) ~34°C
gw ~47°C fully rendering (1280x1024, everything maxed out)*
nfsu:mw ~42°C fully rendering (1280x1024 almost maxed settings)
es3 ~40°C fully rendering (1280x1024, everything maxed out)
rdkf ~38°C (well, not real 3d rendering but i thought i add it ^^)
cinema4d rendering ~44°C

gw is stressful on the card but i still hope they add dx9 shaders for the new chapter.

*january crash issue with my system, running gw on 2nd pc atm (tried 20 diffrent drivers, lots of diffrent bios settings, reinstalled my whole system,... hoping for the next build to run)

Uzul

Old Dood

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Good point Uzul. When I am done with the game I get out of the game and my system gets real quiet. My primary system has a X800XL and that card makes noise when in the game. I do not fear it frying too much. The BTX style case has great air flow.

But any video card as far as I am concerned you should keep the PCI slot next to it open for more air flow.

aeroclown

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandy Memory
No money...but I highly doubt it was a cooling issue...as my computer doesnt have.......a case.... it still has a lot of fans though :\

I really cant figure out why it happened with gw and not a high end game...
Not having a case does not mean it is not a cooling issue. It just means you have more open aire contact. Fans Imo are fairly useless with no case, you really are not getting CFM with not enclosure. One of the whole points of a case is to not only protect your hardware but create a minuature enviroment in which can be correctly exchanged for cool fresh air in the micro enviroment.

xxSilhouette

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i have an ATI Radeon 9550 and it runs wonderfully - havent had any problems with it.

I must say the title of your thread definatly caught my eye

Mister Overhill

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My old Radeon 9600 Pro is still chugging along after 2+ years (even runs F.E.A.R. great) . Same goes for my daughters 9600se. Both do a nice job on GW.

Gravewalker

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Join Date: Oct 2005

put a case on it, its prolly ust dust messn with yer comp

SaucE

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I have been running GW on a 9800 Pro 128MB 356-bit on Max detail + 4x AA for about 7 months with no issues. Every now and then a manufacturer can have a bad shipment of cards.

ATI 4 LIFE!!!

Peewee

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Probably your card was in ofr it anyway, thats just the way things go. It only takes 1 tiny little connection to go ping, or for it to heat up just that little bit too much, and then its busted.

My card works, but, and i dont know how many other ppl have this problem, sometimes the game isnt rendered properly and i get massive lag when i open the inventory and go into bags etc. I have been told its a issue with some of the older (and crappier, its a Geforce 4000 MX :S) cards and the newer drivers. Anyway, there is a known issue with GW, old GeForce cards, and new drivers. Just thought i would give ya a heads up. ie, dont get old geoforce card, get something decent, and for the love of god, dont get a 4000 MX, cos it sucks.

DarkWasp

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Paradise

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Actauly it is most likely ATI's fault, DOD:S almost burned out my card. But I was on the latest driver, luckily my computer has all these shutdown-if-overheating features.

So I switched back to the 4.12 drivers, works like a charm.

The new ATI drivers are designed for the newest cards, and for some reason, they become lethal to the older ones. Every new driver I watch for, but 4.12 always has the best performance.

Feminist Terrorist

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandy Memory
Its not "gaming" its just gw...
This statement makes me laugh.

That's like saying "it's not "alcohol" it's just beer". lmao

Star Gazer

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overclocking is bad for your health

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

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USA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist
This statement makes me laugh.

That's like saying "it's not "alcohol" it's just beer". lmao
Well if you can take 30 shots and be fine...but 1 beer messes you up....then yes, it is exactly like that

Quote:
Originally Posted by Star Gazer
overclocking is bad for your health
I wouldnt even know how to overclock if I had too.

My comp wasnt in open air...not having a case is different from being retarded

MPZahn

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Join Date: Jan 2006

When in doubt, get rid of your ATi card and get a GeForce card. I've never had a problem with my geforce cards. My old ti4200 still works for everything. And my new 6600gt is working beautifully, even severely underpowered.

GF is jsut better

Old Dood

Old Dood

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Lansing, Mi

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MPZahn
When in doubt, get rid of your ATi card and get a GeForce card. I've never had a problem with my geforce cards. My old ti4200 still works for everything. And my new 6600gt is working beautifully, even severely underpowered.

GF is jsut better
That is a claim not a truth...Depends on people's systems. My ATI X800XL PCIe works perfectly. I also have a Ti4200 in one of my computers and it is a solid but older card. The 6600GT is a good mid range card as well. Most people are having problems with the higher range cards...doesn't matter what brand either.

SaucE

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Had bad experience with my Ti4200. Got so hot (no OC) that the heat sink fell off. Have had 2 ATI cards since with no issues other than it got outdated for games I wanted to play (HL2, BF2, etc.)

Kaguya

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Moon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaucE
Had bad experience with my Ti4200. Got so hot (no OC) that the heat sink fell off.
Aren't the sinks usually mounted on with plastic studs/metal screws, and for that stuff to melt off they have to get very hot. Or repeated cold<->hot transitions over longer periods of time, makes plastics pretty fragile (Got 2 CPU sinks that have gone boom because of that, plastic parts snapping in two) and that isn't really NVidia/ATi specific, after all, NVidia and ATi only supply the GPU cores, and other manufacturers build the PCBs and other components.

ShazBo

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I've been using my ATi 9800 Pro 128mb for longer than this game has been out. And I play this game hours, I have no problem there is nothing wrong with ATi cards. My advice... stop buying bootleg video cards that were made in some back alley in Hong Kong.

Kaguya

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShazBo
I've been using my ATi 9800 Pro 128mb for longer than this game has been out. And I play this game hours, I have no problem there is nothing wrong with ATi cards. My advice... stop buying bootleg video cards that were made in some back alley in Hong Kong.
...

Mine was ATI 9800PRO 128mb, and it just died. It sure wasn't a cheapo model, and it cost an arm and a leg when I bought it new.

Not all cards are created equal even if they have the same core, there's different manufacturers for the cards themselves (Giga-Byte, MSI, Creative, Sapphire, XFX, etc etc) that have different revisions and models of the same card. The problem could be in the GPU core, the problem could be in the manufacturing work, the problem could be in how the Moon is locationed in relation to Mars and the phase of the Sun regarding Pluto. Just plain stupid saying 'omgz my card works fine, stop buying bootleg sh*t'...

ShazBo

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Ah mine was 100% ATi. Not Asus, MSI or another crap like that. Oh ya Creative no longer make video cards by the way. And dude it was a joke.

Xaniera

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I have to agree with almost everyone here that has said the videocard was probably on its way out anyways. My mom had a similar problem with her computer. My brother likes to play a lot of games on it, and one day she booted it up, opened Microsoft Word of all "graphics intensive" programs, and same thing, videocard blew. I believe it was an ati, and after examining the card the problem seemed to be the capacitors. Each one had the top and bottom puffed out, like a miniature firecracker had gone off inside, and they were rusty, like electrolyte had leaked out and corroded the metal. If you're replacing the card, go nVidia. I believe (not entirely sure) that they have a minimum standard for parts being used to make their cards that is slightly higher than that of ATI's. Also, nVidia's drivers are better. Trying to get a decent driver from ATI is like going dumpster diving for a high-end computer. You're just not going to find it.

Feminist Terrorist

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Xaniera's got a valid point about the ATI drivers. That company has been known to have sub-standard drivers, though they are slightly better in the last few months. Still nowhere near the quality of Nvidia's drivers.

Res Surection

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sounds to me like its the power supply for sure, and maybe cooling