The "Eternal Knockdown" build (Almost done)

legless_the_elf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Distant Land Called Canada EH!

Blazing Dragons

Mo/Me

The concept of this build is 8 hammer wariors that keep the 8 other anemies knocked down at all time so they can do squat

This build has changed: it is still an eternal knockdown build and still in the concept stage but i have gotten ideas from here and there. It is a variation of IWAY now. All you IWAY haters out there dont go away just yet. It is different and requires more talent. IF it works...

W/R

Skills:
Hammer Bash
Battle Rage (E)
"For Great Justice"
I will Avenge you!
Flurry/Frenzy
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Rez Siggy

This time around i used a bit more my math.
According to my Guild Wars guide book a normal knockdown is 2 seconds so with stonefists gauntlets that gives me 3 seconds to get 5 adrenaline to get my next hammer bash so with IWAY thats 1 hit every 1.1... seconds and battle rage doubles that hit so that i get 2 adrenaline so i got 6 adrenaline in 3.3 seconds
therefor the only one that can be cast is a 1/4 second spell
also flurry/frenzy (not sure wich gives 33% more) and For great justice does the same effect but not as long (long anough to get battle rage and IWAY up)

A few problems:

How are they gonna kill my pet for IWAY if they are down all the time?
I guess i gotta keep up frenzy/flurry so a zealous would be nice Maybe take out IWAY and just use pets for extra dmg

This build would not do great against spikers cuz by the time you get to them and hit them 3 times (3 seconds + time that takes to get to them) They may have already taken out one of your warriors
I dont know how to solve this HELP

What about stances with dodge/block?
I think if i could get irresistible blow in this would be solved Maybe take out IWAY and just use pets for extra dmg

This is my build so far plz feel free to help me out... i need it

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

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Why did you make a new thread?

legless_the_elf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Distant Land Called Canada EH!

Blazing Dragons

Mo/Me

I changed my base idea so i decided to post a new one

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

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Then keep it in your original thread and change the OP.

monk muffle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

ya put some stances in that might help againt some builds i can think of some spikes that use spells that can beat this but on a ranger spike or iway just get them necs first and theyre done but i think it is a pretty darn good build

monk muffle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

i just noticed you dont use your pets that much cause theyre gonna be knocked down most of time so instead of w/r be all w/ele bring gale and it will shut down spike from beggining or any other build i

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

CA

Scythes of Chaos [SoC], [PNOY] alliance guild forums: http://socguild.cjb.net

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LOL ur just taking up space. Muder In China im lovin ya man. You crack me up so much!!!!

audioaxes

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

u got too many skills that will reset BR

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiaxhou of Trinity
LOL ur just taking up space. Muder In China im lovin ya man. You crack me up so much!!!!
Not funny.

Nilator

Nilator

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

why is it the "eternal" KD build? where does the eternal come from?

Fabius Cunctator

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Venezuela

Lord

Eternal because it will keep the foe knocked down always.

legless_the_elf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Distant Land Called Canada EH!

Blazing Dragons

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabius Cunctator
Eternal because it will keep the foe knocked down always.
Or so i hope...

imaginary friend

imaginary friend

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

marhans grottoooo

Empires of Underworld [EoU]

R/Me

or even worse, gale+shock+kd of choice=eternal kd's

monk muffle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

ya imaginary freind thats a good idea w/r isnt a good knockdown build

legless_the_elf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Distant Land Called Canada EH!

Blazing Dragons

Mo/Me

w/r isnt great i know
but can you guys plz help me out here bcuz i really like the idea of an eternal knokdown
BTW gale dont work cuz of ExHaUsTiOn

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

Why not try the elite ele skill: Thunderclap, drains mana a lott but it can knock down quite much and u can get decent mana from bonetti's defence.
* you can get a Upgrade in your armor that makes sure it does thunder dmg and with that you could go for 2 knockdowns from Thunderclap and perhaps some knockdowns from hammer skills......

Buried_Flame

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

He wouldnt put bonettis defense, cuz there would be no one attacking him , if the build works. (cuz they'd be knocked down)

toric brightblade

toric brightblade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Searching for EU farm guild

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Quote:
Originally Posted by legless_the_elf
This build would not do great against spikers cuz by the time you get to them and hit them 3 times (3 seconds + time that takes to get to them) They may have already taken out one of your warriors
I dont know how to solve this HELP
well, when you think of it, spikers cant be TOO coordinated that they kill everyone before 1 person gets to a spiker, so you can just go straight for the spikers, and maybe sprint or something would help.

on the other hand, deflect arrows is always good =)

now air spikers on the other hand.....im still trying to find a way around that for ya.

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

Won't Hammer Bash alone pretty much kill your Battle Rage? You haven't told us at all what your attributes are set at. I don't see this working unless you have your Strength up to at least 14 or 15.

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

Edit: Double Post

scars of insanity

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Katy Texas

Soldiers of Heaven [soh]

For 5-17 seconds, you move 25% faster and gain double adrenaline from attacks. Battle Rage ends if you use any non-attack skills. When Battle Rage ends, you lose all adrenaline.

it will kill your eternal knockdown once it ends or u decide to push it again. I suggest bringing Bulls Strike or w/e its called to knock them down if they decide to run after they get up. then continue ur eternal knockdown until battle rage ends again and then repeat

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

You want eternal knockdown just go W/Mo smiter with Balthazar's Spirit, Bane Sig, Devastating Hammer, Counter Blow and Heavy Blow.