Best Warrior Weapon?
Boagrius
i was just curious if there were any advantages to using a sword instead of an axe? An axe does higher damage, so I was just curious why someone would use a sword? Does a sword do less damage, but you can swing it quicker than an axe (is it something like that)? Just curious. Thanks guys.
Caelus The Fallen
Actually, the median damage value for a sword is higher than an axe since the axe's lower damage limit is so small. It is true however that axes do more damage in general due to the nature of the associated skills. The two weapons are balanced, but in a subtle way; there is no "best".
Boagrius
Cool. Thanks a lot.
Retribution X
Swords also inflict Bleeding, and axes do not.
Young Hero
Axe for mobs, sword for one on one or Ettin damage
Star Gazer
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quickmonty
Try them both for a while and see which suits you the best.
Criminally Sane
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Try them both for a while and see which suits you the best.
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sixdartbart
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OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS?!...axes dismember and have skills to stack on it...swords do not.
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^^^ Does dismember cause bleeding
/rhetorical question please don't answer!!!OMG gash causes a deep wound as well
Now back to the OP; Both weapons types have skills that work well together depends on which you like to use.
I prefer swords mostly because of the low bottom end on the axes as well as the degen from bleeding is constant, sever and gash make a very nice combo for nearly all occasions
Also another reason to dislike axes is the constant harping from PvPers telling a sword warrior that they have to use an axe build..... *would like to refer all of you to the upcoming WC finals. watch IQs matches and be sure to PM "Im A Paladin" and tell him why he needs to run an axe build*
Best way to go is play with both and decide for yourself which you prefer.
JediKnight
I personally have a gold sword (max damage) and green axe on my warrior character (Pa Pa Smurf).
I can't say which is best coz i generally switch back and forth depending on where i am, or what mood I'm in. Although I have lately been using the axe more.
I can't say which is best coz i generally switch back and forth depending on where i am, or what mood I'm in. Although I have lately been using the axe more.
AxeMe
As you'd guess from my IGN (Just Axe Me) my warrior has spent most of his time as an axe wielder. And that's still my personal choice. But after Victo's Blade dropped for me I decided to play with it just for fun. I was really impressed with the value of bleeding. And I was especially surprised that I was able to do some of my usual solo runs with the sword. I think most people would agree that cyclone for axes is superior - when dealing with mobs that you've aggro'd - to the elite Hundred Blades. But still I was able to use Hundred Blades and survive the runs. So despite my obvious bias for axe, I've ended up agreeing with those who say (1) try them and find out which one fits your own style of play and (2) now that it's easy to change the distribution of attribute points and there's no penalty, spend a little time with each.
I've left hammer out simply because I have almost no experience with it. But the idea of living without the armor from a shield sort of worried me.
I've left hammer out simply because I have almost no experience with it. But the idea of living without the armor from a shield sort of worried me.
Nilator
Hammers, in my opinion are the best.
JediKnight
^^^ there's always one isn't there. LOL
Janus Anobix
any reasoning behind that?
My W/Mo has been using swords pretty much this entire time, but right now I am in the process of trying to get a Victo's Battle Axe to give that a shot, that or a chaos axe...whichever auction I win
but seriously, I think that the axes would probably be better for farming, while the sword might be better for group play with other players because of the benefit of the bleeding and the skills involved.
My W/Mo has been using swords pretty much this entire time, but right now I am in the process of trying to get a Victo's Battle Axe to give that a shot, that or a chaos axe...whichever auction I win
but seriously, I think that the axes would probably be better for farming, while the sword might be better for group play with other players because of the benefit of the bleeding and the skills involved.
JediKnight
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any reasoning behind that?
My W/Mo has been using swords pretty much this entire time, but right now I am in the process of trying to get a Victo's Battle Axe to give that a shot, that or a chaos axe...whichever auction I win but seriously, I think that the axes would probably be better for farming, while the sword might be better for group play with other players because of the benefit of the bleeding and the skills involved. |
Thock
Axe for farming and spike damage in PvP.
Sword for when using non attack elites or damage stacking with enchantments and spirits with Hundred Blades. Also good for tanking because of Riposite and Deadly Riposite.
Hammers for Knockdown and Disruption at the cost of the faster spike of axe. In my opinion hammers are mostely good for PvP. If your tanking that shield helps alot.
Just my 2g.
EDIT: And can we please kill the Swords attack faster than Axe myth. I don't know what happened but when i got this game everyone knew they had the same attack speed.
Sword for when using non attack elites or damage stacking with enchantments and spirits with Hundred Blades. Also good for tanking because of Riposite and Deadly Riposite.
Hammers for Knockdown and Disruption at the cost of the faster spike of axe. In my opinion hammers are mostely good for PvP. If your tanking that shield helps alot.
Just my 2g.
EDIT: And can we please kill the Swords attack faster than Axe myth. I don't know what happened but when i got this game everyone knew they had the same attack speed.
aB-
The DPS, or damage per second of an axe is greater than that of a warrior. I'm not certain, but I believe this has something to do with axes having a greater chance at a critical hit than swords. Look here for the calculation:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=113319
I also prefer how easily an axe warrior can inflict a deep wound with eviscerate, while a sword warrior must first use sever artery before gash, using 2 skill slots instead of one. However, swords are still extremely deadly, especially with final thrust.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=113319
I also prefer how easily an axe warrior can inflict a deep wound with eviscerate, while a sword warrior must first use sever artery before gash, using 2 skill slots instead of one. However, swords are still extremely deadly, especially with final thrust.
Zirv
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Hammers, in my opinion are the best.
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Deathqueen
As a sword warrior there is an advantage that with the axe using it correctly really doesn't work well with and that is WILD BLOW. Wild Blow uses up all adrinilin (which is an axe warriors bread and butter), but, it also destorys ALL STANCES and is very effective in PVP when you face a lot of stance rangers/ele's and other warrior. Using Warriors Endurance along with other skils like power attack and seeking blade one can have unlimited energy and use Wild blow everytime it comes available. When it hits it's ALWAYS a CRITICAL as well.
Everything always comes down to "Hitting" if you read the warriors skills and if players are in stances it becomes minimal that they will hit especially those 75% stances. When WB hits, those stances are gone and then you can pound those that were in stances good. I carry only one adrinilin skill and that is sever artery since it's only 4 adrinilin and usually it will come up just before WB regens. Works great together and I still get those mighty blows from the criticals.
If you work warriors endurance correctly just as it's ending you can and should have 22 energy (well my build anyways) and by the time you use that energy and saved 5 energy warriors endurance will be recharged again. Practically unlimited energy.
Everything always comes down to "Hitting" if you read the warriors skills and if players are in stances it becomes minimal that they will hit especially those 75% stances. When WB hits, those stances are gone and then you can pound those that were in stances good. I carry only one adrinilin skill and that is sever artery since it's only 4 adrinilin and usually it will come up just before WB regens. Works great together and I still get those mighty blows from the criticals.
If you work warriors endurance correctly just as it's ending you can and should have 22 energy (well my build anyways) and by the time you use that energy and saved 5 energy warriors endurance will be recharged again. Practically unlimited energy.
darkMishkin
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As a sword warrior there is an advantage that with the axe using it correctly really doesn't work well with and that is WILD BLOW......When it hits it's ALWAYS a CRITICAL as well.
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Lord Sabir
Axes: Crippling, Deep Wound, Medium Damage, fastest speed, Weakness
Sword: Coolest looking (opinion) Bleeding, Deep Wound, lowest damage
Hammer: Knockdown, Highest Damage, Slowest speed, two handed
Sword: Coolest looking (opinion) Bleeding, Deep Wound, lowest damage
Hammer: Knockdown, Highest Damage, Slowest speed, two handed
Murder In China
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Axes: Crippling, Deep Wound, Medium Damage, fastest speed, Weakness
Sword: Coolest looking (opinion) Bleeding, Deep Wound, lowest damage Hammer: Knockdown, Highest Damage, Slowest speed, two handed |
master_ranger_matt
it depends on the skills you want. axes use more like deep wounds and cripples, while swords seem to use bleeding. words are more stable damage, and have 2 defensive skills (riposte and deadly riposte)
axes are more unpredictable; they dont have as steady damage.
axes are more unpredictable; they dont have as steady damage.
Head_Damage
Im sticking with my sword at the mo they look cool enough and hack away them health points!!!
naginatools
http://madeinsapmi.com/GW/fast2k.wmv (7-8mb)
As you see it goes fast, but still, I wont say sword is best.
I really like Axe too, but Sword is the thing for me.
As you see it goes fast, but still, I wont say sword is best.
I really like Axe too, but Sword is the thing for me.
Hockster
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OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS?!...axes dismember and have skills to stack on it...swords do not.
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jgortner
Hi there,
It's a good question and many new players to the game ask it.
A weapons effectiveness depends on the environment you are operating in. Also something to note is that the damage range in which a weapon operats is not something you should put great influence on. More important is the skills associated with the weapon. That's not to say you shouldn't take it into consideration, but that it's just much less important.
Axes
- Without question inflicts the most damage over a short period of time
* This is because the skills associated do the most damage unconditionally
- Easiest way to inflict a deep wound; this also contribute to the 'most damage'
- Associated elite skills do more damage the the others
- Only weapon with armor penetrating skills
- Most expensive weapons in the economy overall
- Most used by warriors
- One handed; allows for shield
Hammers
- Only weapon to cause knockdown
- Best weapon for interruption (most overall skills supporting including knockdown)
- Highest single swing damage
- Slowest to build adrenaline
- Least expensive weapons in the economy overall
- Least used by warriors
- Two handed; Can't use shield
Swords
- Easiest to cause conditions such as criple and bleeding
- Fastest swinging (by just a smigen over axe)
- More energy intensive then others overall
- Highest single skill damage (final thrust)
- Fewest skill selection overall
- One handed; allows for shield
With that noted. I would try and get one good weapon of each type as you will find each useful in given situations. For instance, axe is best for farming large mobs, sword is best for farming one-on-one (ettins), hammer is good when your a tank and your main job is to absorb damage, sword is bad against non-fleshy creatures, etc.
And most importantly, which is the most fun for you? If you don't care about fun, axe is the best in more situations than the other two, including PvP. Personally I like sword and hammer because its really fun for me to criple, cause bleeding, and knockdown my opponents. In serious play however, my axe is always used.
Isaac Ixbane
It's a good question and many new players to the game ask it.
A weapons effectiveness depends on the environment you are operating in. Also something to note is that the damage range in which a weapon operats is not something you should put great influence on. More important is the skills associated with the weapon. That's not to say you shouldn't take it into consideration, but that it's just much less important.
Axes
- Without question inflicts the most damage over a short period of time
* This is because the skills associated do the most damage unconditionally
- Easiest way to inflict a deep wound; this also contribute to the 'most damage'
- Associated elite skills do more damage the the others
- Only weapon with armor penetrating skills
- Most expensive weapons in the economy overall
- Most used by warriors
- One handed; allows for shield
Hammers
- Only weapon to cause knockdown
- Best weapon for interruption (most overall skills supporting including knockdown)
- Highest single swing damage
- Slowest to build adrenaline
- Least expensive weapons in the economy overall
- Least used by warriors
- Two handed; Can't use shield
Swords
- Easiest to cause conditions such as criple and bleeding
- Fastest swinging (by just a smigen over axe)
- More energy intensive then others overall
- Highest single skill damage (final thrust)
- Fewest skill selection overall
- One handed; allows for shield
With that noted. I would try and get one good weapon of each type as you will find each useful in given situations. For instance, axe is best for farming large mobs, sword is best for farming one-on-one (ettins), hammer is good when your a tank and your main job is to absorb damage, sword is bad against non-fleshy creatures, etc.
And most importantly, which is the most fun for you? If you don't care about fun, axe is the best in more situations than the other two, including PvP. Personally I like sword and hammer because its really fun for me to criple, cause bleeding, and knockdown my opponents. In serious play however, my axe is always used.
Isaac Ixbane
ThePadawan
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And: Axes cause Deep Wounds, which lead to Weakness and Crippling via Evis. Combos, oh.. and do +40 dmg with evis. too. Swords have what... Hundred Blades and Sever/Gash? Cool!
It just depends though, really. Just like everything else in GW, its ballanced. But if you're farming or taking on mobs, Cyclone Axe just owns way too much to pass up. 5 energy, 4 sec recharge, adrenaline farming.
M3LK0RSB4N3
All the weapons in this game are equal in one way or another, its a little too equal I think...
Deathqueen
THat's because Anet is big on this SKILL system of their game. See it takes SKILL to "press a button" faster than the next person don'tcha know? laffin
Example: Two like classes same skills in their skill bar, who wins? Well certainly not the person with the best skillbar setup because they are identical and their weapons are equal in dmg output and speed, so where is the SKILL left? Who presses their skill buttons faster. (smile)
Example: Two like classes same skills in their skill bar, who wins? Well certainly not the person with the best skillbar setup because they are identical and their weapons are equal in dmg output and speed, so where is the SKILL left? Who presses their skill buttons faster. (smile)
Yichi
The advice i followed with my warrior was find out what type of build youll be running. IE: if youre doing stance tank or primary tank, then usually i went with sword for riptose and skilsl like that. If i needed a dmg spike for fast killing, i went with axe.
Axes have a better dmg output capability, while swords seem to have more overall sustained dmg and have more defensive skills associated with them as well as attacks. But i did find (ill quote someone from observer mode last night) that with swords, Gash+Final Thrust = Eviscerate on crack
Axes have a better dmg output capability, while swords seem to have more overall sustained dmg and have more defensive skills associated with them as well as attacks. But i did find (ill quote someone from observer mode last night) that with swords, Gash+Final Thrust = Eviscerate on crack
Murder In China
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THat's because Anet is big on this SKILL system of their game. See it takes SKILL to "press a button" faster than the next person don'tcha know? laffin
Example: Two like classes same skills in their skill bar, who wins? Well certainly not the person with the best skillbar setup because they are identical and their weapons are equal in dmg output and speed, so where is the SKILL left? Who presses their skill buttons faster. (smile) |
NatalieD
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^^^ Also another reason to dislike axes is the constant harping from PvPers telling a sword warrior that they have to use an axe build..... *would like to refer all of you to the upcoming WC finals. watch IQs matches and be sure to PM "Im A Paladin" and tell him why he needs to run an axe build* |
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The DPS, or damage per second of an axe is greater than that of a warrior.
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Savio
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Also something to note is that the damage range in which a weapon operats is not something you should put great influence on.
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Axes - Without question inflicts the most damage over a short period of time * This is because the skills associated do the most damage unconditionally - Easiest way to inflict a deep wound; this also contribute to the 'most damage' |
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Hammers - Only weapon to cause knockdown - Best weapon for interruption (most overall skills supporting including knockdown) - Highest single swing damage - Slowest to build adrenaline - Least expensive weapons in the economy overall - Least used by warriors - Two handed; Can't use shield |
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Swords - Easiest to cause conditions such as criple and bleeding - Fastest swinging (by just a smigen over axe) |
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Originally Posted by Deathqueen
THat's because Anet is big on this SKILL system of their game. See it takes SKILL to "press a button" faster than the next person don'tcha know? laffin
Example: Two like classes same skills in their skill bar, who wins? Well certainly not the person with the best skillbar setup because they are identical and their weapons are equal in dmg output and speed, so where is the SKILL left? Who presses their skill buttons faster. (smile) |
Jay the Jake
IGN Axe Doctor on my W/Mo answers my preference. Attack speed is the same as a sword, its one handed unlike the hammer so you can equip a sheild as you can with a sword. Bad on the axe is the varied dmg per strike. Dmg on my axe is 6-28 and you will see hits all over that spectrum. Where a sword can have for example dmg 22-28. Murder in China is correct an axe does spike dmg and i like it for that. Also axe skills work on all monsters. Where as I have seen ppl gripe in game that a certain mob of foes we have ran into dont bleed and they either didnt know or forgot to equip other skills. But with an axe your adrenaline based skills are universal. And when i was talking about sword skills i was referring to adrenaline based skills. So my choice of an axe is based on both those reasons
The Real Roy Keane
Effecient farming,but if you expect a monk to drop to 2 Hundred Blade's attacks..
Zero G
I have perfect axes and swords, a set of each. I got rid of all my hammers as they do not work for my play style. For me the rule is simple, Swords for fleshy creatures and axes for all others.
I love running into a one on one situation in PVP against an axe war when I have my sword build. Axe guys fall fast to my sword.
Oh and if you know how to use it in PvE, Hundred Blades works better then cyclone axe IMO. You just have to set up before you start swinging, 2 hits on each guy you are fighting works better for me then just one :P Mind you this is because the big sword attacks are such high adren cost.
I love running into a one on one situation in PVP against an axe war when I have my sword build. Axe guys fall fast to my sword.
Oh and if you know how to use it in PvE, Hundred Blades works better then cyclone axe IMO. You just have to set up before you start swinging, 2 hits on each guy you are fighting works better for me then just one :P Mind you this is because the big sword attacks are such high adren cost.
fiery
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