right now im useing
left to right
troll unguent
???? havent decided yet
disracting shot
Penetrateing shot
flame trap
barrage
whirling defense
any help is very welcome
edited RTW out forgot barrage removes preps
I badly need a good build that suits a Flat Bow
Masta o elemants
m30wc0w
Umm wha? Barrage+Flame Trap+Interrupt+RTW
Im interested in know why you have 1 trap, Barrage, 1 interrupting attack, and a Prep when Barrage removes them
Im interested in know why you have 1 trap, Barrage, 1 interrupting attack, and a Prep when Barrage removes them
Masta o elemants
ya i just notced that barrage takes off any preps
allso i really dont know any good ranger builds atm
allso i really dont know any good ranger builds atm
m30wc0w
Well you have barrage. Thats a good start. Look for some other skills. A Barrage/Interrupt character is pretty fun 
Masta o elemants
kk sweet
Mr Fizzle
Hey if your ele secodary you can go Expertise,Marks,And Flame Water or Lighting(Use stances from Expertise for self survival if the monks are dead will keep you alive for a lil bit.)And use conjure lightining flame or frost and use that with barrage but thats just me : ).
Mr Fizzle
Hey if your ele secodary you can go Expertise,Marks,And Flame Water or Lighting(Use stances from Expertise for self survival if the monks are dead will keep you alive for a lil bit.)And use conjure lightining flame or frost and use that with barrage but thats just me : ).
Masta o elemants
well only one prob fizzle my only bow i got atm is a drago's flat bow and its normel peirceing But i can change my secondary to mesmer or necro anytime
still gotta unlock warrior and monk secondarys
still gotta unlock warrior and monk secondarys
SnipiousMax
If your absolutely set on using a flatbow...then Interrupting is not the way to go. I'd do either a Barrage Build or a Quickshot build. Barrager's are pretty useful, and a quickshot build would take advantage of the flatbow's fire rate. You can do a search and pull either of them up.
heist23
for a flatbow, i'd suggest bringing Favorable Winds. at a high marksmanship, your flatbow would be much more useful. flatten the bow's firing arc and you have a longbow that fires as fast as a short bow.
Valerius
yeah... ur gonna have to be using either Read the Wind and/or Fav. Winds if u plan on actually hitting anything with ur Flatbow :P
Soul Shaker
yup...flatbows are never a good choice unless you got a skill that can speed it up. read the wind or favourable winds=longbow range, shortbow refire, composite bow arrow speed.
Masta o elemants
im not SET on useing flatbows i got 30k atm and the Drago's flat bow im useing is worth about 40k so i can get a new bow to set a new build
ty for all the info so far
ty for all the info so far
Soul Shaker
well....if you can, i suggest changing it to a faster bow. anything with recurve, composite, dead or eternal is the best bet...well balanced, but longbow is for long range...
Masta o elemants
ya longbows iv never liked.iv NEVER been at the max range in FOW or UW
sooo what type of bow should i switch too? il do ANY build but IVEX trapper
sooo what type of bow should i switch too? il do ANY build but IVEX trapper
Soul Shaker
i suggest one of those 4...horn, shadow and ivory are slow, but hae 10% AP. most of you information should be judge from this guide
SnipiousMax
For a good all-around bow, that works well with just about everything...I'd find a composite/recurve bow. They're average in Range and rate of fire, and the best for arc and travel time. That's what I'd use if you were just limited to one bow. If you wanted to add range, then Long bow is good as well. I use a short bow most of the time if I'm running a barrage build, Its got a really short range, but I've always had more luck running barrage and getting a full spread of arrows if I'm up close than out far (w/ flat bow). For interrupting you should definately use composite...or a short bow where arc doesn't matter. I've not found much use for the Horn Bow series...Armor penetration is great, but you actually get more damage from a faster fire rate. Now all that said. Flat bows do still have their uses. I like a flatbow for quickshot builds. Something like: Read the winds, Dual Shot, Quick shot, penetrating attack. Then you can use this combo over and over again: Read the winds, then Dual shot + quick shot + regular attack + quick shot +dual shot + quick shot + regular attack. With the faster refire rate you'll be dealing decent damage, and if you wanted you could fire off a pen attack to add a bit more. If you wanted to use the same build with kindle arrows, or ingnite arrows or conjure element...then you'd need to use a short bow. Anyway, that's my two cents!
Masta o elemants
Ok so whats a good type of bow for a barrage build? i prob allready got all the skills needed.
Valerius
i've always liked going with a Recurve Bow or Longbow when doing Barrage Spike
Former Ruling
For a Flatbow - Why are you trying to Interupt and use Barrage...
If your set to use the flatbow...You'll need favorable Winds or drop barrage for using RTW.
For longer range interupting or spiking you'll want a Composite Bow (or one of the bows that act like composite bows, like recurve).
If your set to use the flatbow...You'll need favorable Winds or drop barrage for using RTW.
For longer range interupting or spiking you'll want a Composite Bow (or one of the bows that act like composite bows, like recurve).
Rilder
Hmm, i'm completly different here, I personaly use the flat over all other bows, unless an enemy is activly trying to evade you your arrows will always hit, so go damage maby, Kingle, Penertrating attack,powershot, maby throw in Charm Animal, Confort animal, call of protection,pet, tigers fury instead and allow your pet to fight for you while providing cover suport,
how about
1: Bow attack of your choice
2: Bow/Stance/preperation of choice
3: Pet attack of choice(i use feral lunge)
4: Call of Protection/Otys Cry
5: Troll Uguent
6: Cofort Animal
7: Charm Animal
8: Res Sig
its a great setup for Normal PvE, and non specialized pvping... and as i said again, unless a target is activly running from my attacks the flat doesnt miss for meh
for atty set up i say
12+ BM
9-10 Marks (depending on bow)
9-12 expertise (i'm not a big expertise user, on my BM builds i've even had it at like 3 since in my order of attribute importance its Beastmastery - Wildy Survival - Marksmenship- Secondary profession attribute- expertise.)
Rest in Wildy Survival
how about
1: Bow attack of your choice
2: Bow/Stance/preperation of choice
3: Pet attack of choice(i use feral lunge)
4: Call of Protection/Otys Cry
5: Troll Uguent
6: Cofort Animal
7: Charm Animal
8: Res Sig
its a great setup for Normal PvE, and non specialized pvping... and as i said again, unless a target is activly running from my attacks the flat doesnt miss for meh
for atty set up i say
12+ BM
9-10 Marks (depending on bow)
9-12 expertise (i'm not a big expertise user, on my BM builds i've even had it at like 3 since in my order of attribute importance its Beastmastery - Wildy Survival - Marksmenship- Secondary profession attribute- expertise.)
Rest in Wildy Survival
Jenosavel
I do something a bit similar to Rilder when I'm using a Flatbow. My set-up usually looks like this:
Beastmastery: 11 +1 +3 (15)
Expertise: 8 +1 (9)
Marksmanship: 11 +1 (12)
Wilderness Survival: 0
Ferocious Strike
Disrupting Lunge
Tiger's Fury
Read The Winds
Call of Protection/Call of Haste (depending whether you want defensive or offensive flavor)
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Res. Sig
If you sub in Call of Haste for Call of Protection, you may need to switch Disrupting Lunge for Predator's Pounce. Overall the build has some decent damage output and will be able to lock down anyone who relies on long cast times (such as fire eles).
Beastmastery: 11 +1 +3 (15)
Expertise: 8 +1 (9)
Marksmanship: 11 +1 (12)
Wilderness Survival: 0
Ferocious Strike
Disrupting Lunge
Tiger's Fury
Read The Winds
Call of Protection/Call of Haste (depending whether you want defensive or offensive flavor)
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Res. Sig
If you sub in Call of Haste for Call of Protection, you may need to switch Disrupting Lunge for Predator's Pounce. Overall the build has some decent damage output and will be able to lock down anyone who relies on long cast times (such as fire eles).
Masta o elemants
well i just found a shocking bow string....is it true lighting dmg has a base armor penertration on 25%?
Masta o elemants
well...i gess il just find a eternal bow "someone plz tell me where iv never seen one drop" and give it shocking bow string and if i get it off my longbow i have in storage a +24health bow grip
Valerius
lighting dmg does not have base 25% AP
eternal bows drop in UW and i believe the new ToPK
eternal bows drop in UW and i believe the new ToPK
Masta o elemants
hmm kk well that sucks ....and are eternal bows r one of the best type of bows for a barrage build?
SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by Masta o elemants
hmm kk well that sucks ....and are eternal bows r one of the best type of bows for a barrage build?
Eternal Bows are just composite bows with a fancy skin. Storm bows are just long bows with a fancy skin. Shadow bows are just horn bows with a fancy skin.
Eternal Bows are just composite bows with a fancy skin. Storm bows are just long bows with a fancy skin. Shadow bows are just horn bows with a fancy skin.
Jenosavel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Masta o elemants
hmm kk well that sucks ....and are eternal bows r one of the best type of bows for a barrage build?
The thing to keep in mind when making a Barrage build is that as long as your bow's refire rate is fast enough that you will be able to fire another arrow as soon as Barrage recharges, then it is only Barrage's recharge rate that determines your rate of fire. It just so happens that all bows will refire fast enough, so the only effective refire rate you will have while spamming Barrage is Barrage's own recharge.
Therefore, when making a Barrage build you should disregard the refire rate of your bow (unless you know you'll be under things like Faintheartedness which is a whole different can of worms). That effectively throws out using a shortbow or flatbow, and opens up the possibility of using the Horn Bow. Usually, the Horn Bow is overlooked because of its horrendously long refire time. The Long Bow has a better range, the Composite Bow has a better flight-time, and every single bow has a better refire rate than the Horn Bow. The only advantage the Horn Bow has is an innate armor penetration, but this alone isn't usually enough to compete with all of its flaws. Once the refire rate is thrown out the window, though, it becomes a whole different ball game. The best damaging bow then becomes the Horn Bow. The Long Bow will reach a bit further than the Horn Bow and the Composite Bow (such as your suggested Eternal Bow) will hit more accurately, but the Horn Bow's armor penetration which will add considerably onto your damage.
With that said, bows that fall into the Horn Bow class are: Horn Bows (obviously), Shadow Bows, and Ivory Bows.
Other skills you'll want to take a look at if you're considering making a Barrage build would be the Conjure spells (to replace the preparations you can't use with Barrage).
Have fun!
Therefore, when making a Barrage build you should disregard the refire rate of your bow (unless you know you'll be under things like Faintheartedness which is a whole different can of worms). That effectively throws out using a shortbow or flatbow, and opens up the possibility of using the Horn Bow. Usually, the Horn Bow is overlooked because of its horrendously long refire time. The Long Bow has a better range, the Composite Bow has a better flight-time, and every single bow has a better refire rate than the Horn Bow. The only advantage the Horn Bow has is an innate armor penetration, but this alone isn't usually enough to compete with all of its flaws. Once the refire rate is thrown out the window, though, it becomes a whole different ball game. The best damaging bow then becomes the Horn Bow. The Long Bow will reach a bit further than the Horn Bow and the Composite Bow (such as your suggested Eternal Bow) will hit more accurately, but the Horn Bow's armor penetration which will add considerably onto your damage.
With that said, bows that fall into the Horn Bow class are: Horn Bows (obviously), Shadow Bows, and Ivory Bows.
Other skills you'll want to take a look at if you're considering making a Barrage build would be the Conjure spells (to replace the preparations you can't use with Barrage).
Have fun!
Apple
Use monk as sec. profession! And use Judge's Insight!!!!