Solo Ettin Farming WITH MESMERS!

thegravyboat

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Dave]

Me/W

Just because I think Me's don't get enough attention...

Trolling over at the warrior forum, Ettin farming seems to be the popular topic as of late. It's pretty easy as a warrior AND just as easy with a mesmer.

Attributes:
Fast Casting 4 (3+1)
Illusion Magic 16 (12+3+1)
Domination Magic 1 (0+1)
Inspiration Magic 10 (9+1)
Healing Prayers 9 (9)

Skills:
Illusionary Weaponry
Spirit of Failure
Cry of Frustration
Illusion of Haste
Healing Breeze
Mending
Sympetic Visage
Physical Resistance

Gear
Enchanter's Atire
Illusion offhand
Sword w/ 15-20% Enchantments

So the run is pretty basic. Start in LA or Beatleton and say hi to the Ettins. Throw up mending, SV and physical resistance. So now they can only do their basic attacks and you should be able to recover that with mending. If you lose some life, healing breeze can help ya out if needed. Cast Spirit of Failure on an Ettin to regain your energy faster. Cast IW and attack. When the ettin uses healing sig, just use cry to cancel it. He shouldnt have time to be able to do a second one. Then move on the the next and repeat. So far works well for me. Might take a practice run or two to get it right.

Anyways, if you have some suggestions, post it up! Lets show the world what we me's are made of!

/Represent Mesmer!

c-onverse

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

Magnificent Dutch

maybe you could fit in clumsiness there, maybe switch out mending or illusionary weaponry.. pump up your domination magic a bit, throw out cry of frustration and put in ignorance. you could also get rid of spirit of failure and sympathetic visage and throw in balthazars spirit and illusion of weakness.. This way you'll have:

Fast Casting 1 (0+1)
Illusion Magic 13 (9+3+1)
Domination Magic 10 (9+1)
Inspiration Magic 9 (8+1)
Healing Prayers 9 (9)

Illusionary Weaponry / Illusion of Weakness
Clumsiness
Ignorance
Illusion of Haste
Healing Breeze
Mending / Illusion of Weakness
Balthazar's spirit
Physical Risistance

Now you have exactly the build I use for ettin farming (not sure about the attribute points tho )

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

IW is a beautiful beautiful skill, how can you remove it?!

Nice build, I'll have to try it out... never liked ettins much, so mainly avoided them

Ju_Smurph

Ju_Smurph

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

In a house

[TaB]

Me/N

nice!

*takes notes to read this and try it again when he gets home*

SziP

SziP

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Me/

Nicely tough of, trying it right now.

berko

berko

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

N/Me

I have to try this too, seems my Warrior drop rate has been going down, so I might be luckier with mesmer.....
I'm still going after the ever elusive Sup Absorption :P

SziP

SziP

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Me/

wouldnt a Me/W work much more faster?......IW and Flurry FTW?. Physical Resistance + Healing Signet would keep you alive i belive.

thegravyboat

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Dave]

Me/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by SziP
wouldnt a Me/W work much more faster?......IW and Flurry FTW?. Physical Resistance + Healing Signet would keep you alive i belive. It'd work, but I just didnt like the -40 armor

SziP

SziP

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Me/

thats why there is physical resistance.

Cirian

Cirian

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European Union

The Amazon Basin

You can use Ignorance to disable their signet completely.

Illusion of Haste is worth a look just to get around quicker if you're going the IW route.

Also if you use a sword with IW and are a Me/W, you could take a collectors 16def, +45hits / -2 damage shield. Either use a 'while in stance' paired with Physical Resistance / Flurry or 'while enchanted' to pair with IW

Deadly Riposte (armour bypassing damage + bleed) or Shield Bash (knockdown + skill disable) are nice counters to Irresistable Blow and covers for Healing Signet / Ether Feast

There's probably a good 16 Illusion / 9 Tactics / Other Stats (maybe 10 Insp) build in there somewhere...

Miss Persephone

Miss Persephone

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Great post! I've just tried this out, and with my slightly tweaked build, I managed to pick up a sup fire rune, 2 major runes & a number of minor runes in one run Not bad for starters...

Quote:
Originally Posted by thegravyboat
Attributes:
Fast Casting 4 (3+1)
Illusion Magic 16 (12+3+1)
Domination Magic 1 (0+1)
Inspiration Magic 10 (9+1)
Healing Prayers 9 (9)
You have one attribute point left over - may as well put it in domination, so cry of frustration does 3 more damage (or ignorance lasts 1 second longer - see further down)

Quote: Originally Posted by thegravyboat Cast Spirit of Failure on an Ettin to regain your energy faster I found I was having energy issues with this build, so I swapped out spirit of failure for essence bond. It's most helpful when you have groups of 3 or more ettins. Just cast it along with mending & wait for regen before aggroing the ettins.

Quote:
Originally Posted by thegravyboat
When the ettin uses healing sig, just use cry to cancel it. He shouldnt have time to be able to do a second one. More often I find that they can fire off a second healing sig before Cry of Frustration has recharged. No big deal, still manageable. Is there any other interupt that might work in place of this with a faster recharge? I've had a look through my skills, but I can't see anything immediately. I might try out ignorance as suggested by Cirian - same energy cost, but half the recharge time (and possibly able to stop more than one healing sig in one cast)

Now my mesmer can try and make a bit more money (I'm bored of farming hydras & griffons now...) Thanks again!

Francis Demeules

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

Very interesting build to farm some Ettin in Kryta. Illusion IW is really the best for Ettin for mesmer. I was thinking ,before this topic shows up, about a Pure Mesmer Domination build to farm Ettins (Not tested because I dont have epidemic now).

Ignorance/Diversion (Remove Healing Signet)
Signet of midnight (E) (Blind one
Epidemic (Always got 2-3 at the same time adjacant to the target)
Physical Resistance (Duh)
Spirit Shackle
Mind Wrack
Energy Tap (Got some Energy)
Ether Feast (Got some HP)

Those wich are Bold can be remplaced. I know Ettins doesn't have many energy. So I use Spirit Shackle and Mind Wrack. Problems with that: you must pass Mergoyles, Seed, Tengu Wild and Scout when you start at Bettletun. So what I do is to run at Ascalon settlement, kill some Ettins there and come back.

Francis Demeules

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

For domination mesmer who want to farm some Ettin. It works nice. One thing: be sure you target an Ettin to put epidemic to everyone adjacant to him.

Signet of midnight (E)
Epidemic
Spirit Shackle
Mind Wrack
Empathy
Spirit of failure
Ignorance
Ether Feast

Tested and it works well

ALICE WInterLand

ALICE WInterLand

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

SINGAPORE

XMEN

Me/R

I like Illusion it works.good.I like Illusionsary weaponary at firsdt.cuz i can wait for my Energy bar to rechagre while attacking..........But after I get INEPTITUDE..my God.it was the best SKILL ever!!.. my Ineptitude did 108 when the enemy attack it interupt it and becomes Blindes for 10 solid second...The guide book that i bought ..isnt update...it says maxiumum 82 damage.but the my update dINEPTITUDE elite does 108 and blind 10 seconds.and after i use arcne echo.it takes Double the effect...its good against warriors /hard-hitting ettins...of course it works for any Caster too.
i lIke to bring.

Clusmsiness
Chaos storm
energy tap
ether Feast
Ineptitude(elite)
Arcane echo
spirit of failure
N ANY RANGER TRAP / Resurrect

thats for farming Ettins
when i go for Pvp ..or GVG My slot are all Mesmer skill...........i really use secondary skill...cuz mesmer skill are so fun to use.MESMER rules

Serra Knightfang

Serra Knightfang

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Tenn

Me/Mo

With 16 in Illusion Ineptitude does 142...I love Ineptitude, but I don't think it is as well suited for farming as IW is. IW does much more damage over time. Ineptitude does blind for 10 seconds but with PR and the like don't think it is necessary.
just my 2cents

Cymboric Treewalker

Cymboric Treewalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Imperial Palace - Cantha

[SFK] Sacred Forge Knights (founder)

Me/Mo

I would consider taking a Me/R to do this... throw dirt is a nice skill and would accomplish what you guys are trying to do.

Sentao Nugra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Crystal Lake, Illinois

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cymboric Treewalker
I would consider taking a Me/R to do this... throw dirt is a nice skill and would accomplish what you guys are trying to do. I thought about it when i first started to try and create a build for mesmer farming UW w/o 55 setup, but its expertise linked so is very short on blind duration.

mathijn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

holland

[PIKY]

R/

ok 1 suggestion from a noob,
as a Me/E,
fevered dreams(spread conditions right?)+ mark of rodgefort
can this work?

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

MoR is 25 energy, good luck keeping that up and keeping yourself alive well..

I just use one of my abominated 55 builds

IW
Ignorance
Essbond
BalthSpirit
Mending
Breeze
Prot spirit
Illu of Haste

Francis Demeules

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
MoR is 25 energy, good luck keeping that up and keeping yourself alive well..

I just use one of my abominated 55 builds

IW
Ignorance
Essbond
BalthSpirit
Mending
Breeze
Prot spirit
Illu of Haste Always more 55 mesmer build lol

Hella Good

Hella Good

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

None, free and clear

Hmm... isnt it a bit slow? I mean IW? On a side note, you can use Cyclone Axe to do AoE with IW. Has a 5sec recharge tho.

Sentao Nugra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Crystal Lake, Illinois

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hella Good
Hmm... isnt it a bit slow? I mean IW? On a side note, you can use Cyclone Axe to do AoE with IW. Has a 5sec recharge tho. that and you cant be Me/Mo/W despite how many people would pick that combo in a heartbeat......

Hella Good

Hella Good

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

None, free and clear

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentao Nugra
that and you cant be Me/Mo/W despite how many people would pick that combo in a heartbeat...... Yea, you can Heal Sig + Dist tho. Might work. Just tossing ideas. By the way, you never know, for Chapter 3 they might mix Me/Mo/W for a new profession- the Hexsmitertank.

Eaimirth Etaivella

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Seekers of the Apocalypse

E/

Me/Mo/W FTW!

Could try a deepwound+Inept+Clum spike and try to avoid the sig completly.

Just a thought.

Francis Demeules

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eaimirth Etaivella
Me/Mo/W FTW!

Could try a deepwound+Inept+Clum spike and try to avoid the sig completly.

Just a thought. Phantom Pain, Inept and Clum?

ALICE WInterLand

ALICE WInterLand

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

SINGAPORE

XMEN

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serra Knightfang
With 16 in Illusion Ineptitude does 142...I love Ineptitude, but I don't think it is as well suited for farming as IW is. IW does much more damage over time. Ineptitude does blind for 10 seconds but with PR and the like don't think it is necessary.
just my 2cents I Wouldnt wanna come face to face with a group of enemies.....too dangerous....i would cast INEPTITUDE on 2 of them with help arcne echo and then...stay away while targeting them and energy tapping...Throw Dust is useful.but The recharge is like 45seconds...its not too good.if they keep coming at ya.

Demon Rebel

Demon Rebel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Phoenix, Az

Kings of Chaos Knights (KoCK)

W/Me

I enjoyed Ettin farming with my low level W/Me - that Physical resitance let me do the stance tank thing with my Crimson Carapace shield (though a buddies sword setup has been the best for damage vs. ettins I've seen)... my 55 monk Sucked at doing the ettins, lol...

I really need to get my Me/Ne outta ascalon tonight...

Btw - Ineptitude Rox! Except when you've got a DP when trying to cap it on a lvl 11 char and the boss does 162dmg per hit with it!

Are the drops still good? I tried the ettin farming about 6 or so months ago and would get 2-4 sup rune drops a run... then it dropped to 2-3 majors...and last time I tried it was just a few minor drops.

Francis Demeules

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Demon Rebel
Are the drops still good? I tried the ettin farming about 6 or so months ago and would get 2-4 sup rune drops a run... then it dropped to 2-3 majors...and last time I tried it was just a few minor drops. I still get 4-5 gold drop per farm.

I prefer using my domination build instead IW+distortion. It maybe a little slower than IW but you can get them quickly with 4-5 Ettins at a time without being hit by Irresistible blow.

Demon Rebel

Demon Rebel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Phoenix, Az

Kings of Chaos Knights (KoCK)

W/Me

Nice! I am going to have to start killing those lumbering beasts again

Serra Knightfang

Serra Knightfang

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Tenn

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ALICE WInterLand
I Wouldnt wanna come face to face with a group of enemies.....too dangerous....i would cast INEPTITUDE on 2 of them with help arcne echo and then...stay away while targeting them and energy tapping...Throw Dust is useful.but The recharge is like 45seconds...its not too good.if they keep coming at ya. Sorry, you misunderstood me. I DO NOT use Ineptitude to farm. I'm not that stupid I was just saying that IW is better for farming than it. Personally, I 55 when I want to solo.

ALICE WInterLand

ALICE WInterLand

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

SINGAPORE

XMEN

Me/R

Using Echo ineptitude for farming Isnt stupid!!!!!..........Using IW has to go near the target.and when Ettins come str8 at you in a Group....its dangerous to stay and slash.with mesmer armour...i usually cast ineptitude On one.and wait for it to come near.then when it Attack me and spell take effect........i ran away..The blindness helps for me to ran away without getting hit.and then cast again.i don wanna stay put and Use IW with a group of Hard hitting ETTIN surrounding me.

Cirian

Cirian

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European Union

The Amazon Basin

A Me/N domination/inspiration build I used for a while ->

15 Dom / 12 Insp / xx Fast Cast (can't quite remember ^^)

Cry of Frustration
Signet of Midnight
Plague Touch
Spirit of Failure
Empathy
Ether Feast
Physical Resistance
Shatter Hex

Notes
Pretty much unlimited energy with blind + spirit of failure
2 ettins can be kept perma blind like this
A third ettin (not blind) can be tanked with Physical Resistance + Ether Feast
Shatter Hex if for mergoyles, tengu and skales...


And a Me/W build I used quite a bit

14 Insp, 11 Sword, 10 Tactics
Barbed Butterfly Sword of Shelter (+33% bleed, +7AL vs Phys)
Crimson Carapace Shield (+45hits/-2damage in stance)

Savage Slash
Seeking Blade (wish I had Hunderd Blades or Riposte...)
Deadly Riposte
"Watch Yourself!"
Healing Signet
Ether Feast
Physical Resistance

Notes
Straight up fencer (warrior wannabe ) with some tricky timings, like riposting the right target and getting Savage Slash off in time

Pretty sure I had a Me/R archer with Distracting Shot that could do them too

Theos

Theos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

River Dancing

Eternal Treachery [TimE]

Me/E

Ettin Farming... the non 55 Mesmer way

Me/W:
IW
Healing Signet (Use this after they use IB)
Conjure Phantasm
Deadly Riptose
IoW
Physical Resistance/Distortion
E-Feast
Cry

~ Works well, DR and Conjure just chew threw the life of your target allowing you to Cry only once. I personally chose PR over Distort as the energy loss can become painful.

Artemis89

Artemis89

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Maybe I'm just clueless on Ettins, but where do you see them? I know there outside of Beetletun, but I'm usually 3/4ths dead by the time I get to the Ettins and I have 2 chasing on my ass the whole time.

Is there a better spot for them?