W/Mes FoW Forest Farming

courage

courage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

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Introduction:

This guide will tell you on how to solo the Forest of the wailing Lord, within the Fissure of Woe. If you still have the stamina for it you can go and farm the spiders aswell with this build.

The Forest(1):

The Forest is densly populated by Spirit Woods, Spirit Shepherds, Armored Cave Spiders and Rock Borer Worms. In addition, there is a contingent of Skeleton Army units guarding the bridge leading to the Wailing Lord.

Spirit Woods: Edge of Extinction, Nature's Renewal, Primal Echoes,
Troll Unguent
Spirit Shepherds: Aura of Restoration, Chain Lightning, Iron Mist Iron
Mist,Lightning Strike, Lightning Touch
Armored Cave Spiders: Apply Poison, Called Shot, Healing Spring, Melandru’s
Resilience, Savage Shot
Rock Borer Worms: Choking gas, Lightning Reflexes, Pin Down, Throw Dirt

The Set-up:

Armor:
Personally I use platemail with knight boots, seeing as you’ll be taking plenty of elemental damage. Runes of superior vigor and absorption are a must. A Lieutenant's Helm for the times when you have Iron Mist on you.

Weapons / Shield:
Fiery Dragon Sword of Warding:
15-22
+15% damage while health is above 50%
Customized
+7 armor vs elemental attacks

Zealous Long Sword of Defense
15-22
+15% damage while health is above 50%
Energy gain on hit: 1
Energy regeneration: -1
Customized
Armor +5

Crimson Carapace Shield
16
-2 damage while in stance
+45 health while in stance

A Long Bow for pulling the Spirit Shepherds out of Primal Echo range.

Attribute Points:
This is what I’m using at the moment, I’m tweaking it around daily, yet sofar I have found this to be optimal:

Inspiration 8
Swordmanship 12
Tactics 9 (8+1)
Strenght 9 (8+1)

Note that I’m not using any superior runes other than vigor and absorption, you might want to add a weapon rune, but that’s entirely up to you. I like having more life against the Spikes delivered by the Spirit Shepherds.

Skills:
Hundred Blades
Final Thrust
Sprint
Watch Yourself
Healing Signet
Ether Feast
Mantra of Lightning
Mantra of Resolve

Now, you might be wondering about Ether Feast and Mantra of Resolve. There will be times that you won’t be able to use Healing Signet because of Primal Echoes, and while you are healing you don’t want to get interrupted. Surviving the spikes the Spirit Shephards inflict depends on timing these two healing spells after eachother. It is VITAL when fightning Spirit Shepherds that you are NOT effected by Primal Echoes.

Getting to the Forest:



The first picture shows your first stop point Rastigan and the Shadow monk and two Warriors are highlighted. Once you got rid of any damage taken or when some spells / hexes have worn off you proceed north-west untill you hit picture two, where you see a group of 4 Shadow monks to the right and a patrol to the left. Once the patrol walked by proceed to stop point number 3. Here you see 2 Shadow Elementals and 1 Shadow Mesmer wait untill any ‘negatives’ have worn off, run past them till you get to point 4.
Here is the tricky part.
On the 4th image you’ll see the 2 Shadow Elementals and the Shadow Mesmer below you and above you a group of Skeletons.
Two things can happen:

1)The shadows stop chasing you and you can regen and run past the skeletons without aggroing them, yes, you can aggro them and live, but I recommend that you don’t. So wait for them to bunch up and then run past.
2)The Shadows don’t stop chasing you. Lure them into the skeletons and let them fight while you run to the final stop.
The last image shows the final group of skeletons that you need to dodge. Once you get passed them you are at the entrance of the Forest.
There are some patrols between image 4 and 5, they have never given me any problems running to the Forest and I’m expecting that they won’t be a problem for others.

The Forest(2):

Now that you have reached the forest you will see a patrol of 3 Spirit Shepherds, lure these with your Long Bow away from any spirits, I.E. Pirmal Echoes. Immediately switch on Mantra of Lightning and start attacking the Shepherds, use Watch Yourself when charged and heal as needed. Here is where having two healing spells comes in handy. While one recharges use the other one. Personally I use the Dragon Sword on the Shepherds.

After these three you will encounter 2 Spirit Woods, usually accompanied by 6/7 Rock Borer Worms. Mantra of Resolve + Ether Feast + the Zealous weapon will dispatch thse quickly. Blind and Crippled inflicted by the Worms don’t pose much of a challenge. Choking Gas isn’t something that will stop you either.
Do watch out for patrolling Shepherds.

This is just to get you started. Spiders will popup / drop down from time to time, but usually no more than 2/3 at a time. I could write an entire guide on how to completely do it, but I won’t. I will give you some points that you need to be carefull of:
1) Don’t fight Shepherds when effected by Primal Echoes.
2) Watch your stances.
3) Pick the fights on your terms, study the patrols, study where you
are not effected by any spirits.
4) Know when to run!

So you make it to the bridge with the Skeletons and the Banshees. I usually turn around and go for some spider farming instead, yes, you can do it with this skill setup altho it isn’t as easy as with a full spider setup. Why I don’t take out the Skeletons, the traps layed down by them can tear you apart. Usually they will aswell.

How hard is it and is it even worth it?

I’m not going to lie, it’s hard. It’s very, very hard. To give you an indication: I rate spider farming on a scale from 1-10 a 3, UW Solo farming a 10. This I’d give about a 7, maybe an 8. The spikes, the spirits, the way to lure and all of that make this rather difficult.
Now the spoils of war from this trip is usally greater than that of Spider farming. Atleast in my case it has been.
So if it’s that hard, why should I even bother?
Well why not?
It offers a challenge, rewards are high, and I think of it as rather fun.

Conclusion:

If you are looking for another FoW enriching experience and like a challenge, this might be for you. If you are still finding farming Spiders hard to do, this won’t be for you just yet.

Thanks go out to:

My guildies and friends for having faith in me that I would find a way to do it.
Racthoh Demini, Ubermancer, Striderkaaru and many other guide writers, for giving me inspiration for writing my own guide. An extra thanks to Racthoh for helping me out with the skills and setup.

PM me ingame or here for thoughts, suggestions, flames, rants or funny stuff.

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

This sounds interesting, very interesting!
A few screenshots or a video perhaps? I know I'm asking a lot, but it would definately get this guide to another level if you know what I mean.

Thumbs up from here!

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Knowing me I'll probably be stubborn and use Defy Pain + Dolyak + Watch Yourself to see if I can reduce the damage enough. Go go warrior skills!

Two April Mornings

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

this soudns quite promising, might try it out

courage

courage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

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I'll provide some screens and maybe a video if I knew how to make one. . .
Don't know when I'll post them, seeing I'm kinda pressed for time at the moment. Anyway glad people are liking it !

BBoy_Manchild

BBoy_Manchild

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

dayton ohio

N/Mo

im game, ill do some runs and post back

Da Cebuano

Da Cebuano

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Virginia born in Cebu

Jelly Toast[jT]

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what kind of rewards do you get aside of shards?

courage

courage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

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rubies, saphires, gold weapons, there are always some chests around. Lets say on a good run i make roughly ~30k, without going for the spiders afterwards. Sure there are bad days where you just hit ~10k. So I guess about the same for the Spider farming.

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

I tried your build, but I couldn't even bring the spirit shepards down to 50% health. I spent all my time healing.

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

Wow, very nice Courage. Sounds pretty tough, but I have to give that a shot

courage

courage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

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Anarion, what kind of weapons are you using? what type of armor? I admit facing three Spirit Shepherds is hard. You'll be healing a lot of times, once you get one down, you can relax abit, not by much tho.

For the people wondering if you can enter the Forest from the otherside, yes, you can. The run basicly remains the same:



From the 4th image to the 5th you'll be dodging patrols mostly untill you get to your last resting point. the square representing the camp where the ghosts show up after the Tower Quest. The circle represents the entrance to the forest. Problem here is that beside the 3 Spirit Shepherds you got the Worms to deal with. 9 out of 10 times they won't join in right away if at all. I just prefer the other entrance.

And some screenies:
East entrance:

Spider showing his knocked down animation while using a trap:

Spider and a patrol passing by:


ERROR CORRECTION
I talk about the traps layed down by the Skeletons, I have no clue what demon slipped into my brain while typing that or even missing that error when I reread it. Seeing Beserkers don't lay traps. Effect remains the same, rather go spider hunting than get those guys after me.

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

I am using platemail armor with knights boots for dmg reduction.
I have a sup vigor, sup absorbtion, minor tactics and a minor strength rune in my armor. I also use a Lieutenant's Helm and the platemail helm with a sup swordsmanship rune in it.

I'm using a
Zealous Longsword of defence:
max dmg req 9
+15% dmg (while in stance)
Energy gain on hit: 1
Energy Regen: -1
+5 armor

Any tips? Or am I just not good enough?

courage

courage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

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I can't imagine the sup sword rune acting up that much, no. Your equipment is other than that identical to mine.
What i do just before I attacking the spitis; use healing sig, then heal when needed to keep above 50% health.

That's the only thing I can tell you, that and practice does make a lot of difference. Sorry, that's all I can tell you without actually seeing you do it.

Hope it helps...

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

very nice guide. I had ventured into that area during my spider runs and it seemed a viable resource as well ^^ Gj!

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

its great mate , i been there and done quite a few runs myself with this build

sever artery
gash
finalthrust
victory is mine
healing sigit
doylak sigit
mantra of lightning
sprint

i would try it with yours but im short of hundred blades >_<

Rape of Faith

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Eternal Champions

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
its great mate , i been there and done quite a few runs myself with this build

sever artery
gash
finalthrust
victory is mine
healing sigit
doylak sigit
mantra of lightning
sprint

i would try it with yours but im short of hundred blades >_< Heh. You always use Gash/Sever Artery + ViM ^^

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

its a nice 120 heal every 15 secs + 5 energy gain + does deep wound + degen on foe ^^

lambda the great

lambda the great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

here

Almost a Guild

W/N

Love these runs I started doing them about two, three months ago I think but I used Defy pain, Dolyak ect.. then I found out about Ele resistance. Takes me about 45 to an hour to clear this forest, I've done it a bunch. It's slow though so I take a few ranger guildies (the dude that made the R/mo guide on this place) And we cleard the forest out insanly fast.(including the skeletols at the bridge part :P
This is my current build for this place...
Hundred blades{E}, Salvage slash, Desperation blow, Watch yourself!, Dolyak Signet, Ele resistance, Healing signet, Sprint.

Nice guide btw.
Have a 20% vs. Plants mod on your sword or Axe to get best results.

geminisaga

geminisaga

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/N

also i manage to kill those skeeleton bastard , hard though coz they use weakness on u end up do only 3-4 dmg

BBoy_Manchild

BBoy_Manchild

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

dayton ohio

N/Mo

i did a few runs, very very difficult with my current computer problems so i wasnt able to clear the whole area, but i did make more then i lost from paying the k to enter

courage

courage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

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It's nice to hear that people like the guide and are trying it out. Sorry to hear about your computer problems Manchild. And about going for the skeletons, you can take out if you want, even with this build, I just find it quit demanding after clearing the forest. But then again, if I still have the stamina for it I'd rather spent my time going for the Spider Cave. I'll be healing a bit more without Dolyak Signet, but it's doable.

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

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Might be a welcome change from spider farming

Thanks for posting this

Knido

Knido

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

in exile

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cool

i always wanted to kill some bloody aie elementalists

pwn me with enervating and blinding flash in CA

they make me cry T_T

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

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Could you make a video of this? I'm more a looking person for learning.

courage

courage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

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Sure, I'd be willing to make a video, if someone could tell me how to make one.

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

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Few things imho, I still get lightning damage of 120+ with mantra of lightning on me, 3 spikers is constant healing till one dies (or I die).

With elemental resistance, it's MUCH better, although the patrol with the spirit spammer and the 3 spikers is a bit hard due to the Primal Echoes he lays down and you need a zealous weapon, but the damage is much much less. Pretty good drops so far too


One more question though, after clearing the left side of the forest if you enter, how do I get to the right side without aggroing the skeletons? Skeletons are a pain but "doable". I just run back to the plains and go to the other entrance, killing some trappers on the way

courage

courage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

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the thing i like about mantra of lightning is that with it and the zealous weapon i can keep spamming 100B constantly. the healing doesn't give me any trouble anymore, mainly because i'm used to it, i guess. Sure it works with elemental resist aswell.

I sprint away from the skeletons and not bother with them, or I enter from the east side.

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

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The spikes of 120 damage from one spell is a bit much sometimes.. Nevertheless, nice place to farm

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

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nice job with this build and guide. i haven't had the chance to try it yet, but i wanted to leave you props for it. good job.

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

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Full clear, 6 shards, 1 key, 1 rare teh sucky bow, and 4k in drops

Beats spider farming for sure

Vicious Hunger

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

[KMB]KissMyBrass

R/E

im having a lot of trouble with this build, iv tryed a few times
iv even took a guilde to help do it for some 2 man but still having trouble doing it

im using glads chest and legs and ascalon boots and gloves and helm
allso using Hod Helm
Victos Axe, and Minor runes

courage

courage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

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I have tried this build myself with full glads armor and ascalon helm, thinking the difference between that and platemail wouldn't make that much of a difference, it did.

So its either up to you if you want to invest in it or not, I mean it doesn't have to be 15k platemail and superior runes of vigor and absorption. It can be done with major runes of vigor and absorption aswell.

Like I said it's all up to you if you want to make that investment, i did, not just for farming this place, but i think its nice to have an armor thats great vs physical, glads, and one that is good or better than vs elemental, platemail.

I'm glad that people are liking the build and guide provided and are trying it out. I feel somewhat proud, this being my first guide and real build and all

poilkioi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Thank you for this small guide, I have gotten my first sapphire drop ever!

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

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Quote:
Originally Posted by courage
Sure, I'd be willing to make a video, if someone could tell me how to make one. There are some free video recording programs on the web to make videos, but unfortunely I don't know any of them. I think Fraps and Game cam are some.

Fred Kiwi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

[cola]

Ffs, they got rid of hte 16/-2/45 stance shield and replaced it with a while hexed. WHY damnit why?

super dooper

super dooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Kiwi
Ffs, they got rid of hte 16/-2/45 stance shield and replaced it with a while hexed. WHY damnit why? they moved it to a collector in the desert, 5 Bleached Shells, northeast of Thirsty River.

Vicious Hunger

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

[KMB]KissMyBrass

R/E

me and a guildie have been trying this run and where both having a hard time pulling it off......couldnt even beat the first group of guys.... some help please?

did they change somthing? to make it harder?

im using 15k Glads and Ascalon infused Minor Runes

Crimson Carapace Shield
16
-2 damage while in stance
+45 health while in stance
and a 20%vs plants sword max dmg

skills are
sever artery
gash
finalthrust
victory is mine
healing sigit
doylak sigit
mantra of lightning
sprint

super dooper

super dooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicious Hunger
im using 15k Glads and Ascalon infused Minor Runes

Crimson Carapace Shield
16
-2 damage while in stance
+45 health while in stance
and a 20%vs plants sword max dmg

skills are
sever artery
gash
finalthrust
victory is mine
healing sigit
doylak sigit
mantra of lightning
sprint that looks exactly like my build minus mantra of lightning and final thrust (I use desperation blow). I think that you would do better with elemental resistance instead of the mantra, (it reduces the damage alot more) but I'd highly recommend using a zealous sword hilt.

masterbeef

masterbeef

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canada

The Bretheren of Chaos [Dark]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicious Hunger
me and a guildie have been trying this run and where both having a hard time pulling it off......couldnt even beat the first group of guys.... some help please?

did they change somthing? to make it harder?

im using 15k Glads and Ascalon infused Minor Runes

Crimson Carapace Shield
16
-2 damage while in stance
+45 health while in stance
and a 20%vs plants sword max dmg

skills are
sever artery
gash
finalthrust
victory is mine
healing sigit
doylak sigit
mantra of lightning
sprint If I were you I would Swap Mantra of Lightning for Elemental Resistance. Only use MoL if you are looking for more of a challenge. The rest looks ok but I have never personally ran ViM as my elite down there.

courage

courage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

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First of all, and i have mentioned this before: It is harder when using galdiators, platemail does make all the difference. How is attribute distribution? Or use elemental resistance, I have no problems using MoL myself.

I cant comment on the usage of ViM, seeing as I havent used that in the forest myself.

Also when fighting the Shepherds I use the fiery dragon sword with the +7 vs elemtal attacks, only when i get low on energy i switch to the zealous / or when fighting spiders. Sever and gash will slow down the fight against the few spiders encountered aswell, because of Melandru's Resilience.

Major point here is: The difference between platemail and gladiators, im not telling you you should invest in the platemail or dragons for that matter, im just saying its a key point.

And no, they havent changed anything to make it harder, I can still do it just fine with the build provided.