ANet has made yet another stupid solo nerf!
I enjoy solo hunting Avicara in Mineral Springs. This morning when I zoned into the area, I noticed a file download. I didnt think anything of it because I hadnt been into Mineral Springs for a few weeks...until Avicara actually started dying.
I use Shield of Judgement as part of my skill setup. Whenever a monster would die from my SoJ, I would not get ANY xp gain and no loot drop at all, and they were always in my radar bubble, so I know it wasnt a range factor.
I killed several mobs and it was always the same thing...they killed themselves on my SoJ, but I got no drops or XP. It happened with the Avicara Braves as well as the Fierce.
So I started doing some testing and it turns out that you now have to tag everything with your weapon/skill/spell in order to get any benefit from killing it. So to beat this particular nerf, I went around and hit each Avicara in the mob once before activating Shield of Judgement...Immediately I was getting XP and loot drops again.
What a pain in the ass. Thanks Anet, for making more ridiculous changes.
Oh great...Anet makes another stupid solo nerf!
Splatter Mcnasty
LordDeArnise
Why is it ridiculous? I can understand why some want to solo it out, but Anet seems to have a stance where the nature of the fighting these days encourage a well-balanced group. Any solo nerfs they did lately wasn't as bad, as say, the night they nerfed ToA--UW solo monks big time.
edudlooc13
After reading your post, I went to go try it, but not in MS. That's strange, maybe it's just in Mineral Springs. I kill minos over and over in Elona with SoJ, I still get exp and loot fine.
Tyrent Frath
...so let me get this straight
as a HEALING (not 55) monk, i now have to ATTACK to get any remote *chance* at getting a drop?
...you gotta be RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing kidding me
this is really starting to become a joke, going into game to test, will check back with info.
as a HEALING (not 55) monk, i now have to ATTACK to get any remote *chance* at getting a drop?
...you gotta be RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing kidding me
this is really starting to become a joke, going into game to test, will check back with info.
ashed
Is this in the patch notes? I'm not saying you're wrong because I havent tried it yet, but if this is really true, theres going to be alot of unhappy people. Arenanet never liked solo players much it seemed. Often times the solo builds will get owned by the nerf bat. Some people just like to play solo, but they enjoy guild wars. Arenanet seems to slowly take away things for solo players. I know that SoJ was a good way for solo monks to go out and get xp for your skill points, so you can amass more skills...and now you're being forced to tag things or team up with people? Plus, not loot unless you tag them? Thats pretty wrong in my opinion. I think that any solo nerf they make is as bad as any they have made in the past. I don't really care what their stance is on the nature of fighting and such, the game has pve and some people just enjoy solo pve. There is nothing wrong with that except for the fact that Arenanet doesnt want it...and so they will force us to see things their way or quit.
I paid my 50 dollars for the game, why cant they let me play the game I paid for, not the game they think I should play?
I paid my 50 dollars for the game, why cant they let me play the game I paid for, not the game they think I should play?
ashed
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Originally Posted by Tyrent Frath
...so let me get this straight
as a HEALING (not 55) monk, i now have to ATTACK to get any remote *chance* at getting a drop? ...you gotta be RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing kidding me this is really starting to become a joke, going into game to test, will check back with info. |
Apple
I've done this with a 55hp monk. I just killed everything at the start of mineral springs (braves, fierces). I experienced no lack of drops. I rezoned into Tasca's, repeated. I ended up with 3 gold runes, and didnt wand anything. At all. It might just be anti-farm code
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by ashed
some people just enjoy solo pve. There is nothing wrong with that except for the fact that Arenanet doesnt want it...and so they will force us to see things their way or quit.
I paid my 50 dollars for the game, why cant they let me play the game I paid for, not the game they think I should play? |
hithey have already made an official note on this and it is ONLY the highest level areas where they are swinging the solo nerf bat.
to paraphrase it
*WHY SHOULD YOU EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO SOLO AN AREA DESIGNED FOR 8 PEOPLE AND GET 8X YOUR SHARE OF THE MOST VALUABLE ITEMS IN THE GAME?*
lower level farming is relatively untouched
Tyrent Frath
killed griffons and for the majority they all dropped stuff (my anti-farm was kicking in cause i farmed for 5 hours last night so some didnt drop much)
did trolls north of droks and they all dropped loot.
didnt do ettins cause honestly, i hate the ettin run.
will do dreaghnoughts (sp?) run later, see what i come up with.
so far, i havent experienced what you did.
did trolls north of droks and they all dropped loot.
didnt do ettins cause honestly, i hate the ettin run.
will do dreaghnoughts (sp?) run later, see what i come up with.
so far, i havent experienced what you did.
kvndoom
Screenshots, please. I played my 55 Monk a little this morning, got EXP, drops, and loot, saw no difference.
Tyrent Frath
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
hithey have already made an official note on this and it is ONLY the highest level areas where they are swinging the solo nerf bat. to paraphrase it *WHY SHOULD YOU EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO SOLO AN AREA DESIGNED FOR 8 PEOPLE AND GET 8X YOUR SHARE OF THE MOST VALUABLE ITEMS IN THE GAME?* lower level farming is relatively untouched |
haha, j/k, but i understand that the UW solo is unreasonable (and actually becoming less popular IMO) because even 8 player teams have trouble doing it.
what i *dont* understand is why A-net swings nerfbat at 55-ers but not at trapping rangers?
or wamos?
honestly, if you swing nerfbat its fine, just make sure it hits all professions evenly.
shevaa
You know I don't think anet is nerfing solo builds just to make everyone mad. I think they are nerfing solo builds to make it harder to run bots. They are setting it up so you have to be a real person at the computer playing the game to survive and get items and cash.
MMSDome
if you dont like the way Anet does things then dont play games they make. They are obviously going to make changes in game to make gameply more fair and whenever they come out with a new update you always have people complain. If thats all you do dont play.
Eclair
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Originally Posted by Tyrent Frath
...so let me get this straight
as a HEALING (not 55) monk, i now have to ATTACK to get any remote *chance* at getting a drop? ...you gotta be RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing kidding me this is really starting to become a joke, going into game to test, will check back with info. |
Tyrent Frath
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
if you dont like the way Anet does things then dont play games they make. They are obviously going to make changes in game to make gameply more fair and whenever they come out with a new update you always have people complain. If thats all you do dont play.
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anyway, i was talking about loot in my post before, not experience shared, but i wasnt affected by it so it doesnt matter.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Tyrent Frath
what i *dont* understand is why A-net swings nerfbat at 55-ers but not at trapping rangers?
or wamos? honestly, if you swing nerfbat its fine, just make sure it hits all professions evenly. |
when the tournament is over i expect some interesting rebalancing to occure
i predict the following
screams of anguish
sighs of relief
exclamations of joy
i further predict that on the day of the big rebalance the boards will top 2000 people possibly up to 2500
Tyrent Frath
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
when the tournament is over i expect some interesting rebalancing to occure i predict the following screams of anguish sighs of relief exclamations of joy i further predict that on the day of the big rebalance the boards will top 2000 people possibly up to 2500 |
hm, who else predicts fingers of chaos to start popping up alongside the worms in presear?
Loviatar
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hm, who else predicts fingers of chaos to start popping up alongside the worms in presear? |
shouldnt that be pieces of landscape popping up among the worms now and then?
Tyrent Frath
or the ocasional mindblade riding the countryside
MMSDome
They havent nerfed my forest minatour farming yet!!!!!!!!!!! Or Hydra farming!!! Its all so profitable to, i wont complain when they do, ill be happy cause ill do something other then farm the game Im always up for the new challenge, just bring it!
Im always up for the new challenge, just bring it!
led-zep
why dont anet make some anti bot code instead of royally peeing off the actual players.
anet nerfer 1) hey lets sort out all the farming bots,
anet nerfer 2) ok, i suggest nerfing skills as coding is too much hassle, will it affect the gamers though,
anet nerfer 1) probably but screw them, we have their money already
anet nerfer 1) hey lets sort out all the farming bots,
anet nerfer 2) ok, i suggest nerfing skills as coding is too much hassle, will it affect the gamers though,
anet nerfer 1) probably but screw them, we have their money already
aB-
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Originally Posted by led-zep
why dont anet make some anti bot code instead of royally peeing off the actual players.
anet nerfer 1) hey lets sort out all the farming bots, anet nerfer 2) ok, i suggest nerfing skills as coding is too much hassle, will it affect the gamers though, anet nerfer 1) probably but screw them, we have their money already |
calamitykell
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Originally Posted by led-zep
why dont anet make some anti bot code instead of royally peeing off the actual players.
anet nerfer 1) hey lets sort out all the farming bots, anet nerfer 2) ok, i suggest nerfing skills as coding is too much hassle, will it affect the gamers though, anet nerfer 1) probably but screw them, we have their money already |
Mandy Memory
if you nerf 55 monks (typically mo/w) you are nerfing w/mo as well. They just might not use the same skills as much...
Sphinx2k
maybe u were having rly bad luck cuz i just ran out to Mineral Springs after reading your post and was still getting exp and drops wihtout attacking a single Avicara and only using SoJ
Murder In China
It's called anti-farming code.
manitoba1073
i had someting similar to that happen with trolls outside droks. had a freind helping me lvl up my mes. well make a long story short, we got to the troll cave and he was killing them and i was a little ways back well in range of minimap but wasnt getting any exp from them when they died. had to wand them atleast once to get any exp. just thought it was odd to say the least and that was last night.
Splatter Mcnasty
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It's called anti-farming code.
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I was only in Mineral once this morning, but I'll go back now and see if I still have the issue.
ashed
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hithey have already made an official note on this and it is ONLY the highest level areas where they are swinging the solo nerf bat. to paraphrase it *WHY SHOULD YOU EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO SOLO AN AREA DESIGNED FOR 8 PEOPLE AND GET 8X YOUR SHARE OF THE MOST VALUABLE ITEMS IN THE GAME?* lower level farming is relatively untouched |
....Because I can? I enjoy finding ways to do things solo that full teams normally do. It is a challenge and often doesn't work or pay off. I am a team player, yes...but I also have times where I want just little old me to go out and play. In those times, I dont want to low level farm...thats no fun and rarely profitable.
And...anyone in this game can make a solo farmer, so if they complain that one person is getting a full teams worth of drops, maybe they should stop complaining and make a solo build?
Solo farming isn't my main role in the game, it is something I do for fun or when I need to boost my gold a bit. Even though I don't solo farm as much as some and DO play in teams, I dont like the idea of Arenanet forcing people to team.
My Sweet Revenga
HOLY CRAP that was my idea!!! 
Well ok maybe not exclusively my idea since probably lots of people thought of this but I remember proposing this as a possible future update. But the purpose wasn't to affect solo farming. It was to make those god damn xp leeches do some work. Now I guess they can't just go afk anymore. Yay anet, assuming they really did implement this, otherwise boo.
Well ok maybe not exclusively my idea since probably lots of people thought of this but I remember proposing this as a possible future update. But the purpose wasn't to affect solo farming. It was to make those god damn xp leeches do some work. Now I guess they can't just go afk anymore. Yay anet, assuming they really did implement this, otherwise boo.
Deathqueen
Sometimes even tagged things don't drop anything. Playing as a W/Mo and having to strike everything (I don't use SOJ or GD) with cyclone Axe many times I've had mobs/npcs not drop a thing, but, I don't whine about it. I just move onto the next group or start the run over again when complete. When I notice this happening is usually after then 2nd run. 3rd and 4th runs start to produce less and less and after 4 runs I move to another zone.
twicky_kid
This is a bug so send it to anet. They have a stance against farming but they do not want to kill it completely for the honest farmers. Don't be scared to send in bug reports like this. Since they can track everything in the game to begin with no need to be paranoid about it
Alexi Zingforger
Again, take away the reason why people farm in the first place, and less people will bother doing it.
SilentAssassin
well I love these updates... really love them
if I were them I would delete the stupid 55 monk builds, to bad you just can't do that hehe
Never been a fan of farm builds, but thats just my thought about it
I am happy with the update, its not normal that ppl can solo areas wich are ment for only 6-8 player groups
(i was standing in augury rock yesterday and it was funny how many 55 monks came past me in only 1 minute )
if I were them I would delete the stupid 55 monk builds, to bad you just can't do that hehe
Never been a fan of farm builds, but thats just my thought about it
I am happy with the update, its not normal that ppl can solo areas wich are ment for only 6-8 player groups
(i was standing in augury rock yesterday and it was funny how many 55 monks came past me in only 1 minute )
MinaDrakul
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Originally Posted by My Sweet Revenga
HOLY CRAP that was my idea!!!
Well ok maybe not exclusively my idea since probably lots of people thought of this but I remember proposing this as a possible future update. But the purpose wasn't to affect solo farming. It was to make those god damn xp leeches do some work. Now I guess they can't just go afk anymore. Yay anet, assuming they really did implement this, otherwise boo. |
Xue Yi Liang
Look. If everyone hates the 55 monk build why don't y'all ask for a patch that'll bump the minimum BASE health to 100 for any monk/warrior character equipped with a pre-searing offhand item that has more than 10k in storage and has at least one protection skill in their skillbar? (pls don't take that seriously).
aB-
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Originally Posted by My Sweet Revenga
HOLY CRAP that was my idea!!!
Well ok maybe not exclusively my idea since probably lots of people thought of this but I remember proposing this as a possible future update. But the purpose wasn't to affect solo farming. It was to make those god damn xp leeches do some work. Now I guess they can't just go afk anymore. Yay anet, assuming they really did implement this, otherwise boo. |
Fatty Fatty Boomballati
A-net does not make supid nerfs
geeez people the term nerf is over used.
geeez people the term nerf is over used.
disarm76
One thing I don't understand.
If this thing of using SoJ is true, why just not take it away from the game?
Oh! I know, because they'd had to take away SS too.
Or Anet could always do like they did with B. Aura, fire rain and the others, make it a useless spell.
They got what they wanted, I stopped farming a long ago.
I'm doing old HoH again and again and drops there will become less and less, trust me. (remember S. Furnace and IDS?)
If this thing of using SoJ is true, why just not take it away from the game?
Oh! I know, because they'd had to take away SS too.
Or Anet could always do like they did with B. Aura, fire rain and the others, make it a useless spell.
They got what they wanted, I stopped farming a long ago.
I'm doing old HoH again and again and drops there will become less and less, trust me. (remember S. Furnace and IDS?)
quickmonty
Don't know about the higher level areas, but I had a banner run today. Two superior and two major vigors and a superior healing. Not a bad day's solo farming.
If they are trying to eliminate power leveling, I am all for that.
PS. I only farm when none (or few) of my guild members are on.
If they are trying to eliminate power leveling, I am all for that.
PS. I only farm when none (or few) of my guild members are on.