A couple of bugs...how common are they?

TomD22

TomD22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Playing GvG recently i've noticed a couple of bugs...one seems to be something people know about and are used to ignoring (although its still annoying) but another seems new and took the people i was playing with by suprise.

Anyway, the first is when in a gvg a player's health in the party windows suddenly starts to degen at the max rate, and keeps going 'till it's all gone (but their name doesn't grey out like they're dead). It's not actually happening to them, and from their perspective they're fine. Sometimes several people in the party can see it happen, sometimes only one person. People don't seem too surprised about this now, and i think it's been around for a while....might be nice to have it fixed though.

The second one seems to me newer and more problematic. On the maps with catapaults, they're glitching strangely evey so often.

The first glitch it when a catapault fires itself. Yes, really, genuinely, i'm sure. It happened while i was in a GvG and we were in the enemy's base, and suddenly down comes the catapault and kills one of us. We all yelled at our flag runner (who was in charge of it at the time) "what the hell are you doing, you just nuked us" to which he yelled back that he was about 20 feet away from it, and hadn't touched it. He didn't fire it, and neither did anyone on the other team - our flagger was standing, as i said, about 20 feet away, and of course could see that no-one was there.

One instance, well, maybe he was just lying. But then it happened again, in a different match, with a different guild (i was guesting the first time). Exactly the same thing - we were in their base, and suddenly the catapault came down and killed someone on our team. Again, we were absolutely sure no-one on our team or theirs had fired it (this time we had a player who had died and ressed at our base, coming back to the fight, close enough to the catapault to be sure no enemy had fired it, and he certainly hadn't either).

Final catapault bug is erratic firing. This one killed me in a match yesterday. I was standing roughly 10 or 15 feet OUTSIDE our base on Hunter's Isle, almost up amongst our henchmen. I had a teammate standing literally right next to me. The catapault had been fired.....and suddenly i was hit for 700 sieg attack damage and killed. The guy next to me (and he was right, right next to me) didn't take any damage at all, from the rest of the team's perspective the catapault shot had landed inside the base. Remember i was outside, standing almost behind it near the henchies, where it can't possibly land.

So, annoying bugs. But how common are they? Anyone else come across them? Any prospect of a fix?

lama_lord36

lama_lord36

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

belgium

Order of the Exiles [bann]

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Never saw any of the glitches you say.The best thing to solve this is to send a bug report to a-net.

Chev of Hardass

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Under a rock

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Originally Posted by lama_lord36
Never saw any of the glitches you say.The best thing to solve this is to send a bug report to a-net.
Let me save you the trouble....


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I am not saying that what you described is not a bug. I am very famililiar with the health bugs. The catapult bugs are new to me, but Anet has no customer service.

fiery

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maryland

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Anyway, the first is when in a gvg a player's health in the party windows suddenly starts to degen at the max rate, and keeps going 'till it's all gone (but their name doesn't grey out like they're dead). It's not actually happening to them, and from their perspective they're fine. Sometimes several people in the party can see it happen, sometimes only one person. People don't seem too surprised about this now, and i think it's been around for a while....might be nice to have it fixed though.
it happend to my party before during GVG.. my guild leader was saying on vent " fiery how did you die" and im like im still alive.. its a bug!

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

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your oppenent can fire the catapult too ya know.

Tainek

Tainek

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD22
Anyway, the first is when in a gvg a player's health in the party windows suddenly starts to degen at the max rate, and keeps going 'till it's all gone (but their name doesn't grey out like they're dead). It's not actually happening to them, and from their perspective they're fine. Sometimes several people in the party can see it happen, sometimes only one person. People don't seem too surprised about this now, and i think it's been around for a while....might be nice to have it fixed though.
This one i see fairly often, the amusing thing is, if they are healed, you see it spike up past zero again, so its just that the bar isnt reading the 0HP point properly, and mis-showing it

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

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Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light
your oppenent can fire the catapult too ya know.
Someone could have also been lagged and clicked someplace that the game thought was the catapult trigger.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

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Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

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Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass
Anet has no customer service.
Rubbish. What they don't do, is inform you of what they do. I've sent in reports two times, got the standard reply, then the standard 'would you like to add info' reply 2-3 times as the mail is being sent between different devs, and finally, a few days after sending in the report, the bug has been fixed.

Both times I reported multiple bugs. All gone.

So not only does Anet deal with bugs you report, they're quick about it too.

Of course, if the bug isn't reproducible, due to lag or buggy display drivers, or you don't give sufficient info for them to find the bug, then there's not much they can do.

In this particular case, the "deteriorating health" is likely to be lag - if you lag out, whatever is going on in the world (degen, for instance) seems to continue until you get connection back and the client updates the world state, then everything that's been going on while you've been 'out' happens very quickly.

The others I don't know, but lag can have weird effects (as neither you nor the enemy are where it looks like).

TomD22

TomD22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

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Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light
your oppenent can fire the catapult too ya know.
ffs read the post before replying to it. I made it very clear that both times we were *sure* that no-one on the opposing team fired it, because both times someone on our team was near enough the catapault to see. It's possible that the person in question each time was lying and either fired it themselves or failed to notice someone right next to them firing it....but as it was different people, different matches, different guilds even, it's unlikely both lied about the exact same thing.

TomD22

TomD22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

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Originally Posted by dargon
Someone could have also been lagged and clicked someplace that the game thought was the catapult trigger.
That's possible i suppose....neither person said they were lagging, but i didn't ask either. It would be very strange coincidence if two different people in two different matches both happened to lag in such a way as to cause them to click on the catapault without realising, though.

Chev of Hardass

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
What they don't do, is inform you of what they do.
Umm, this is a vital part of customer service.

Let your customers know that the time they took from playing video games did not go wasted.

All of my bug reports have gone unfixed and with replies exactly like I posted.


I stand by my statement.