3GB Limit

Danny_Rowe

Danny_Rowe

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I have a 3GB a month download limit with my ISP . How much a month will guildwars download, because ive noticed its downloading quite alot

Tormunda

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Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_Rowe
I have a 3GB a month download limit with my ISP . How much a month will guildwars download, because ive noticed its downloading quite alot
If your playing any kind of online game then your constantly sending information back and fore. Any kind of monthly limit is not going to like online gaming.

Ragira

Ragira

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Join Date: May 2005

Unless you're downloading the entire client it's unlikely you'll use 3GB from GW alone, but you will need to keep an eye on your general usage as well.

Most MMORPG style of games have resonably low overheads, and ISPs like game players as they use much less bandwidth that even general internet users do.

Spike

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Join Date: May 2005

In front of my PC

Kai

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Get a better isp then you won't have to worry

Principa Discordia

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Join Date: Apr 2005

England.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
Get a better isp then you won't have to worry
I'm affraid to say it, but I agree with this guy. ISPs with download limits and other restrictions are horrible.

Cerixus

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Most ISPs that have limits are Satellite providers. In those cases, the users don't have much choice... They usually have satellite because they can't get Cable or DSL and don't want Dial-up.

Devil's Dictionary

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It's easier to say "get a better ISP" when you yourself have a good connection.
When I had 56K, several years ago, I recall everyone knowing how to use a keyboard told me "get broadband". Do you know how bloody annoying it can be?
If the guy has a 3GB limit, it's not because he WANTS to. In countries like Russia or Australia the prices on broadband are hair-raising. I am glad I can get limitless broadband for less than 40$ Can per month, yet I know the price of 56K is 40$ US per month in Russia.

audioaxes

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
Get a better isp then you won't have to worry
i have to agree.
a 3GB/month limit is completely unacceptable!
i wouldnt even stand for a 3GB/week cap

and for something more constructive:
find you a decent bandwidth meter program and do some tests to evaluate how much bandwidth GW sucks up.
I havent done stuff like that in a while so i can make any suggestions for a program to use but like someone already said: GW will not eat 3GB a month, but if you are doing other stuff with your bandwidth, i do believe it could make or break that cap

Danny_Rowe

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well i only use messenger and GW, i download maybe a song a day. thats it

Leventh

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michigan

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ok, dont quote me on this but someware along my gaming experience i was told while playing a game one downloads at an average rate of 33kps.. no this cant be right.. can it?

note: tried to google it but got flooded with "free download" sites.

any tech support guys around? now you got me thinking.

xlulux

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

theres an easy way of killing uneeded usage. unplug the ethernet cable when your not using the computer :-D

Aevarine

Aevarine

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Join Date: May 2005

I have a 3 gig limit too and i'm also worried about that. I didn't have a choice, my isp gave me a free upgrade to my broadband(double the old speed I had) but failed to mention that it would come with a limit(it was unlimited till the upgrade).
If they had told me I would have stuck with my old speed.

Danny_Rowe

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yeah my internet speed is 1mb/s , I like the fact that i get speeds off 100+kb/s but i dont like the download limit atall....


Too find your download speed Divide the speed of your internet connect by 8
e.g
128k would be 128000 / 8 = 16000
16kb/s thats the average speed you would get, It can change depending on, download availability , if your downloading more than one thing or using messenger while downloading , Even your pc spec could affect it. but thats old pc's tho

termite

termite

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Join Date: May 2005

That's why it's a good idea to read (or ask for) the agreement before signing up for new plans.

Either way - you can get yourself a program that would monitor your bandwith usage (I use DUMeter - more on that later) or you could get a router which would turn off internet usage at certain time of day (ex - 10pm to 8am).

Going back to DUMeter. It is a good program, but there's one thing that you have to consider - if you have more than one computer on the network and all have access to the internet, then you have to keep that in mind because it monitors only the computer on which it is installed. It is also possible that your ISP has a web account for you that would show you your monthly usage.

P.S. I have Verizon DSL and pay about $33/month ($29 + bs fees) for 3/768 plan. It is unlimited service, but I use DUMeter because I like to have an activity icon on my desktop which would indicate if my computer is accessing the internet, how much I've downloaded/uploaded per month, and what my speed is. The one that comes with Windows is simply not up to the job.

momo2oo2

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Join Date: May 2005

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Download and install DU Meter to see the day/week/month bandwith usage...

Anyway, ¡f you can you should change your ISP

termite

termite

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Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by momo2oo2
Anyway, ¡f you can you should change your ISP
I agree. There's no point for companies to offer high speed service when you can't have the full freedom of using it. What's the point of caps anyway? Not like it's gonna help solve software piracy.

Danny_Rowe

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hehe....games are normally less than 3gb

Thanato

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unless you're a download fiend, 3 gigs of download bandwidth should be more then enough


....on a side note, its not uncommon for me to blow through my 20 gig download limit, accursed anime series :|

Gbuslayer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Most cable providers have limits as well they're simply more difficult to reach, I got the highest home use package without having to pay for a business line and I get 8 gig down 3 up for a months usage they won't say anything unless I top 10 in concurrent months, they didn't like when I ran an fserver on undernet for like 5 months lol

Danny_Rowe

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haha last month i soo blew out my 3gb limit, I think it was about 6.72Gb .............not a word from my ISP so i just keep downloading

Rasputan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_Rowe
I have a 3GB a month download limit with my ISP . How much a month will guildwars download, because ive noticed its downloading quite alot
Yikes i feel for you. I have a 1 gigabyte per day limit and I find that to be lame. If I download a game client i have to stop my download at 1 gig and resume in 24 hours wich sucks.

Rasputan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_Rowe
haha last month i soo blew out my 3gb limit, I think it was about 6.72Gb .............not a word from my ISP so i just keep downloading
LOL I did that too one time and about 3 or 4 months later i got billed for every extra min. I was glad I did not take advantage.
You best not go crazy that info is not lost my friend it just takes a while for them to sift through it.

Aevarine

Aevarine

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Join Date: May 2005

Termite: I didn't sign up for anything, it was a free service upgrade, they upgraded it themselves. First i knew about it was when my internet speed increased and I got an email about the limit etc.

SpeedMann

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Join Date: May 2005

I think if you installed to game from the cd's you shouldn't have too download to much when playing Guild Wars.

Sekkira

Sekkira

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

I got a monthly limit on my 320k of 1.6gb. However once you over the cap, you're just at a lower priority so you still have the same speed. However, if someone is clogging up the network and they're still under the limit, you get second priority and a slower connection. I've also recently found out that the line provider has upgraded their plans and we're now paying the same amount for a 1mb connection while the 320k doesn't exist anymore, so we'll be getting that soon.

Quote:
Too find your download speed Divide the speed of your internet connect by 8
e.g
128k would be 128000 / 8 = 16000
16kb/s thats the average speed you would get, It can change depending on, download availability
This is not true. That equation is only for an idealistic line, one that's perfect and if you wanted to be more realistic, you'd need to divide by 10 and it accounts for varibles, line interferance quality of the line, etc.

So in reality, on a 128k modem, you'd most likely be getting speeds of 12.8kBps. 56k, 5.6kBps.

Aevarine

Aevarine

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Join Date: May 2005

Are you on NTL too? I thought that once you go over the limit you get cut off the net, like you do on some other isp's until the next month.

Danny_Rowe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aevarine
Termite: I didn't sign up for anything, it was a free service upgrade, they upgraded it themselves. First i knew about it was when my internet speed increased and I got an email about the limit etc.
Isit me or is that against the law?

Danny_Rowe

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Yeah im on NTL, im over the limit quite regularly and havent been cut off yet. I think i read something on the site. Dont quote me on this but it was along the lines of
' Until we release software to measure your traffic the download limit isnt in effect'
actually i know i read SOMETHING like that

XVar

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Join Date: May 2005

England

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_Rowe
Isit me or is that against the law?
Nope, because most ISPs include it in their ToS that the connection is subject to change at any time without warning. Had a similar thing with my ISP recently, they announced they were upgrading everyone to 2mbit but introducing 30gb/month caps. Almost all their users threatened to leave, and lo' and behold, the next month they announce the 2mbit upgrade is still going ahead, but no download caps, AND they're changing from 50:1 contention to 30:1 . Seems some ISP's know how to please their customers lol (http:// www.plus.net if you're in the UK).

No idea what I'd do with a 3gb/month cap, just checked my Bandwidth Monitor Pro (http://www.bandwidthmonitorpro.com) stats and so far this month I've downloaded 64.4gb and uploaded 44.7gb and that's only halfway through the month lol. That's what you get for getting addicted to American TV shows downloaded off torrent sites lol. (I use about 1.5gb a week downloading them, heh)

Kamatsu

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heh, 3 GB is nothing :P I used to play online games with dial-up and a 400 MB d/l limit talk about ewww and pain if I got too into the games and such.. *cringes*.. now I'm still on dial-up but thankfully it's unlimited time & d/l.. heh..

And for those who will say "get ADSL!"... err, I pay $9 Au a month for modem, and cheapest I can get 512/128K ADSL (with a ISP I'd trust! hehehe) is like $60/month while 1,500/256K is like $90 a month... thats a bloody big jump up in prices.. to go from $9 up to $60 or $90.. thats an extra $51 or $81 I'd have to come up with..

So yeah, to all those who say "Get a better ISP!" to the OP.. please understand that not everyone is as lucky as ppl in the US (and Canada? etc and so on) as to be able to get cheap, affordable ADSL. So just saying "get a better isp" is a load of cobblers and not very helpful to the OP's question - the deal he has now could quite easily be the BEST he can get in the country/state/area he is living in - and just because YOU can get better doesn't automatically mean everyone else can too.

Principa Discordia

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Join Date: Apr 2005

England.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aevarine
Termite: I didn't sign up for anything, it was a free service upgrade, they upgraded it themselves. First i knew about it was when my internet speed increased and I got an email about the limit etc.
My old ISP did that to me, so I immediately switched to a better one. I now enjoy Blueyonder's 1Mbit Cable for the throw-away sum of £20/month GBP ($36.75/month USD).

Aevarine

Aevarine

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Join Date: May 2005

I don't have a choice, it's a phone line and internet line package, and we're happy with the phone line. If I swapped isp's the phone line would go.

Sekkira

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Quote:
Originally Posted by kamatsu
heh, 3 GB is nothing :P I used to play online games with dial-up and a 400 MB d/l limit talk about ewww and pain if I got too into the games and such.. *cringes*.. now I'm still on dial-up but thankfully it's unlimited time & d/l.. heh..

And for those who will say "get ADSL!"... err, I pay $9 Au a month for modem, and cheapest I can get 512/128K ADSL (with a ISP I'd trust! hehehe) is like $60/month while 1,500/256K is like $90 a month... thats a bloody big jump up in prices.. to go from $9 up to $60 or $90.. thats an extra $51 or $81 I'd have to come up with..

So yeah, to all those who say "Get a better ISP!" to the OP.. please understand that not everyone is as lucky as ppl in the US (and Canada? etc and so on) as to be able to get cheap, affordable ADSL. So just saying "get a better isp" is a load of cobblers and not very helpful to the OP's question - the deal he has now could quite easily be the BEST he can get in the country/state/area he is living in - and just because YOU can get better doesn't automatically mean everyone else can too.
Ack. Yeah, townsville is unfortunately pretty remote and in the middle of nowhere. Although I'm sure if there is cable availability in your area, Telstra's high end broadband plans aren't too bad. something along the lines of 80-90 a month, but it includes no cap, an up to 8mbit connection, foxtel digital(or just regular foxtel, can't remember) and of course telephone line rental and stuff.

Thomasuwoo

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Join Date: May 2005

Australia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DEATH AT THE DOOR
It's easier to say "get a better ISP" when you yourself have a good connection.
When I had 56K, several years ago, I recall everyone knowing how to use a keyboard told me "get broadband". Do you know how bloody annoying it can be?
If the guy has a 3GB limit, it's not because he WANTS to. In countries like Russia or Australia the prices on broadband are hair-raising. I am glad I can get limitless broadband for less than 40$ Can per month, yet I know the price of 56K is 40$ US per month in Russia.
Right on the money my good friend. I hail from Australia. Only in the last 2 months have we seen any real competition with broadband.

Broadband can be acquired for 30AU a month*

GOD I hate that *. It includes:
500mg dl limit. Charged 10c a meg over. maximum charge of 80$
256/128
Instaltion fee of $100. once installed changing your phone billing plans requires re-instalation. If within 6 months re-instalation is $200.
Contract of 12 months.

The conditions on some contracts are devestating. I have a Dl limit of 12GB off peak 12Gb on peak (So spaced out 24gb) A month. It doesn't reset by moth but by day. So if on the same day last month I Downloaded 1 gb, I'd recive 1 more GB towards my total.
My broadband costs $79 AU dollars a month payed 3 months in advanced.
Speed is 512/256.
The instalation fee and reinstalation fee mentioned above is caused by our barstard of a comunacations company Telstra claiming it's justifiable because of the work involved with modyfying a connection.

In sumary, Saying Get Broadband is as bad as saying Get Computer . If you don't know what you're doing you are going to come unstuck.

Ramus

Ramus

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Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_Rowe
Isit me or is that against the law?
I was about to say that.

Thomasuwoo

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Join Date: May 2005

Australia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by XVar
Nope, because most ISPs include it in their ToS that the connection is subject to change at any time without warning. Had a similar thing with my ISP recently, they announced they were upgrading everyone to 2mbit but introducing 30gb/month caps. Almost all their users threatened to leave, and lo' and behold, the next month they announce the 2mbit upgrade is still going ahead, but no download caps, AND they're changing from 50:1 contention to 30:1 . Seems some ISP's know how to please their customers lol (http:// www.plus.net if you're in the UK).

No idea what I'd do with a 3gb/month cap, just checked my Bandwidth Monitor Pro (http://www.bandwidthmonitorpro.com) stats and so far this month I've downloaded 64.4gb and uploaded 44.7gb and that's only halfway through the month lol. That's what you get for getting addicted to American TV shows downloaded off torrent sites lol. (I use about 1.5gb a week downloading them, heh)
Gotta love beurcracy. Had a simliar afair with my ISP. It's free to upgrade your connection but downgrading it? $30 downgrade fee. Really nice.
Heh so when I first got braodband my Dl limit was 4Gb on peak 6GB off peak. Was paying $79 a month. Seeing how my contact is only 3 months as their prices dropped rather then charge me less they kept upgrading my plan! I still pay $79 dollars a month but my dl limit is now 12gb on peak 12gb off.
Oh BTW my company doesn't charge me when I go over. they "throttle" my connection down to 75k

Danny_Rowe

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Join Date: Apr 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_Rowe
Isit me or is that against the law?
Yes im quoting myself, i asked if it was again the law, because... the guys on ntl and the 3gb download limit was put onto it without him knowing....before ntl put up connection speeds and put on download limits, the download limit used to be 30gb a month. Im guessin when the guy signed up he signed up for 30gb a month download limit (knowing or not). And thats been taken away from him without him knowing. Know what i mean?
Or this could all mean jibberish cos im kind of drunk

Aevarine

Aevarine

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Join Date: May 2005

She, i'm female

Umm, I think it was said already that it's in the Terms and Conditions that the connection is subject to change whenever they feel like it, or something like that. I don't really have a choice in the matters, if they change it I can like it or lump it