Out of Game Trading

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Lately I've seen posts in Lion's Arch with..

WTS: Guild War's CD key for 80 ectos.

and...

WTB: 2 million Neo Points for 100k.

Is this on the same level as Ebaying?

Marodac Evilbane

Marodac Evilbane

Site Contributor

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Netherlands

Rite of Passage

E/Mo

I think so, yes. I suggest you take screens if you see it again and report them to Anet. selling a CD key is against EULA, and since it represents a form of money (the instore value what you pay at the counter), it's buying ecto for irl money. Against EULA as well, IMO.

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

Well, I wouldn't exactly put it in the same category as Ebay ... being that no "real" money is involved.

That being said, it is still ludicrous

JoeJJohnsonII

JoeJJohnsonII

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

Corpus Christi, TX

N/A

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marodac Evilbane
I think so, yes. I suggest you take screens if you see it again and report them to Anet. selling a CD key is against EULA, and since it represents a form of money (the instore value what you pay at the counter), it's buying ecto for irl money. Against EULA as well, IMO.
How do you report violations? I followed the links in one of the stickies and it didnt go anywhere obvious. I have several screenshots of people advertising for hacks, cheats, selling accounts, etc. I've just never been able to figure out how to.

Kamatsu

Kamatsu

Moderator

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

http://support.plaync.com/cgi-bin/pl...p_new_search=1

Sign up for an account and log in at that site and then "Ask a Question". Fill out the details and makre sure to select "Violation Report" from the drop down menu option's..

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Well, technically, we allow the second form of trading, that is, things that don't exist for other things that don't exist, but trading things for real life money, AND, transferring accounts are against the EULA.

Funda

Funda

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Arcane Nexus [ANX]

N/Mo

I don't think you need to sign up for an account at support. Just go to ask a question, and put in your query with your email and IGN, etc.

That's how I've done for awhile now when reporting names, or violations.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

somebody was selling Diablo II items at drognars forge, how the trade can even be done safely is beyond my knowledgee, its weird.

Omega Complex

Omega Complex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Arlington, TX

You sell your time that you used to gain said item. The items given are given of the owners free will. Thats how I think that kind of thing works. BUt yes, CDkeys, and anything involving real money are against the EULA. (as was mentioned, but apparently I just need to mention it again).

animeba

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

A few fissues with this topic:
Is Anet officially against transferring/sharing of cd-keys?
Probably yes.

Do Anet actively enforce the transfering/sharing of cd-keys?
No. I'm pretty sure we all know of people who share a cd-key with family/friends with no apparent consequences. Most people interperate the ELUA very liberally.

Should you make ingame transactions of this sort?
Probably not. The transaction is not guaranteeed to be save. No real way to make sure that you get the cd-key or other mmorpg's items. Mostly these offers are scams.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega Complex
You sell your time that you used to gain said item. The items given are given of the owners free will. ...
That's the same excuse the Ebay gold companies used, not that it's a valid one. There were one or two good threads/magazine articles about this somewhere (search button might come up with something)

Bit of a strange thing that selling other GW account keys for virtual items... why? Where did they get that other account/key from? Someone paid for it? Stolen? What do they intend to do with the ecto? Sell it on ebay? (most likely yes to a number of the above...)

Soul Shaker

Soul Shaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Soul Crusaders

The people who do these things are technically breaking the law. The EULA is what it is. If they enforced it, which i reckon they will in a shock clearout. Basically, they secretly wait and watch, store everything, then BAM! Punishment galore. That will keep it straight for a few weeks at least. Like you see it on runescape. 15 000 macroer accounts banned. They said nothing beforehand, apart from subtle warnings saying stop macroing altogether pretty much.

And, secretly wait and watch just means, they log on normally, and just record violations and character names. They could flag that account for further violations.