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capblueberry

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Lexington, SC

Grenths Mercenaries[DEAD]

07 Feb 2006 at 02:28 - 1

Ok i have a 55-hp monk and a solo warrior and i was wondering

Would it b more profitable to solo trolls outside of droks with my monk or kill griffons outside augury with my warrior or vice versa?

Or is there something else that i could do with one of these characters that makes even more money than either of these?

DevilStick

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

East Coast US

07 Feb 2006 at 02:42 - 2

One word.... plastics.

coldplay

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

NYC

Daoine Sidhe

07 Feb 2006 at 02:46 - 3

I have these 2 character both myself. I too have tried those 2 methods of farming OP mentioned. IMO, monk killing trolls is more fun and profitable than warrior killing griffon.

Canadian Bacon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Ontario, Canada

Kingdom of Tyria [KoT]

07 Feb 2006 at 02:47 - 4

Do trolls drop better items?

berko

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

N/Me

07 Feb 2006 at 02:58 - 5

I don't think they do but it all depends. I think Trolls probably drop more items than griffons and if you id them all and sell them it pays off better in the long run.
I believe griffon's have a better chance of dropping rare and purple items but most of the time those are useless. This is just what I think from my personal experience, I might be wrong though.

SaintGreg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

07 Feb 2006 at 04:10 - 6

The griffons drop more straight gold. Seems like the big drop from trolls is just massive loads of troll tusks, and many wood and iron/steel bearing items. Turning the wood into parchment and then selling the parchment seems to be where much of the cash comes in, whereas in griffon farming you get much more straight gold, and slightly less sellables.

In terms of items, the trolls do drop better items when they do drop. Sometimes the golds they drop every once it a blue moon are sellable (ie near perfect) whereas the gold drops from griffons are always merchant-fodder.

The troll run is much faster than griffons, as it takes about the same time or less to get there and they are all in one spot ready to be owned in 30 seconds or so. Monk is much faster than warrior, but is probably prone to being distracting shotted by rockshots and dying, whereas the warrior is basically immune to them. But with trolls dirupting chop never lands on anything as long as you dont cast 2 one second spells right in a row.

The exp might be a little better with trolls but probably about the same. I think I remember a ballpark of about 3k per run without scrolls farming griffons, and about the same with trolls.

jaibas17

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tampico, Mexico

Blood Eagle [BE]

W/Mo

07 Feb 2006 at 04:18 - 7

trolls = around 1-1.5k from id and sell weapons + gold and such, per 3 min run

griffons = around 2k gold from selling and merchanting, in 6 min run, cuz u gotta kill more spawns separate

anyways, I think its easier to kill all the mountain troll spawn in 1 chance with a warrior, making a 3 min run back and forth with the trolls easier than with a solo monk (sometimes too many trolls + disrupting chop more probable)

nuee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Isengard

guildless for now

E/Me

07 Feb 2006 at 19:21 - 8

Farming the Ettins in North Kryta will generate far more revenue than the Griffons or Trolls, as they drop superior runes quite often. I typically make 5-150 k per Ettin run (150 k when i get sup abs and sup vig runes plus other runes and golds).

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

07 Feb 2006 at 20:00 - 9

Ettin Runs are profitable but I rarely get a sup rune. I get about 2 gold and 4 purples per run but they come out to be useless major runes. I did however get 2 major vigors in 1 run a few days ago.

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

07 Feb 2006 at 20:23 - 10

ettin run 5-150k each run... haha not really mate

2 things, or your damn lucky and you get all the superiors that everbody doesn't get

or you just did 2 runs and you had the luck of having a sup absorbation

anyways, these topics should be closed, guys just use a search engine...

Keyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

07 Feb 2006 at 20:23 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuee

I typically make 5-150 k per Ettin run (150 k when i get sup abs and sup vig runes plus other runes and golds).

For 150k, you're finding a sup abs + sup vigor (100 - 110k), plus another 40k worth of golds and runes...in a single run?

You say typically like this happens often, which I find quite difficult to believe.

Dracus Steelbow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

in my basement for the last 20 years

Radicals Against Tyrants

R/

07 Feb 2006 at 20:53 - 12

a "run" is starting from bettletun going left to the portal, killing the ones at ascalon settlement, kep going left to portal, and then go back into ascalon settlement, and go right left right left, untilol ur bored

nuee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Isengard

guildless for now

E/Me

07 Feb 2006 at 20:59 - 13

Precisely. If you kill anything in Nebo or Scoundrel's, then you trigger the overfarming code.

And yes, 5-150 k per run, everytime.

gabeybaby

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

07 Feb 2006 at 21:03 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevilStick

One word.... plastics.

Mrs. Robinson! You're trying to seduce me. Aren't you?

haha. lovin it.

swiftygem

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

07 Feb 2006 at 21:06 - 15

Check this out, incredibly lucky monk:

Also, this is a result of his 4 hour farming, but im not sure if it's true:

Keyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

07 Feb 2006 at 21:27 - 16

I dont doubt you make between 5 - 150k every time, but theres a massive 145k difference between the two. Typically I'd think you make considerably less than 150k.

nuee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Isengard

guildless for now

E/Me

07 Feb 2006 at 22:48 - 17

Of course, and for example I only made 36 k in the run I just did (4 cycles, about 1 hour). But on average it's far more lucrative than griffons or trolls, which was my original point.

I'm perfectly happy to have skeptics, as that means more drops for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyote

I dont doubt you make between 5 - 150k every time, but theres a massive 145k difference between the two. Typically I'd think you make considerably less than 150k.

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

07 Feb 2006 at 23:02 - 18

About the Ettin farming, 5k or less is typical in my experience. Getting more than that is not a common occurence. So I would vote towards Griffon or Troll farming. I've always stuck to Griffons since it seems to yield slightly more pure gold after IDing and selling to the Merchant.

Eclair

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

07 Feb 2006 at 23:02 - 19

I dunno, out of the 10+ gold's I've gotten from Ettins, all were major except for 1 superior beastmastery, not to mention everything they drop sells for very little, so I just got annoyed. Might as well go for a consistant source of income rather than bet it on luck.

Keyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

07 Feb 2006 at 23:19 - 20

I'm not skeptical about about ettin farming as a means of profit itself, I've done it a few times myself. As others have said, the majority of drops are majors with the occasional superior. I've had 2 sup vigors drop there and some monk sups, but it's not so frequent I'd make anything close to 10k+ each time.

Bio-Flame

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

SL

E/

07 Feb 2006 at 23:49 - 21

Quote:

Precisely. If you kill anything in Nebo or Scoundrel's, then you trigger the overfarming code.

Don't you mean that IF you don't kill anyting in Nebo you will trigger the code?
If you don't kill nothing other than Ettins inside the Settlement, won't it trigger the code?

It's like farming Griffins on Augury, after a while it will trigger.

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

08 Feb 2006 at 00:16 - 22

nuee, sry mate but I do think your lying

if every run of you gives 5-150k,... hmm so you got then 15 FoW armours??

oh well... if your not lying well then maybe the ettins just love you

nuee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Isengard

guildless for now

E/Me

08 Feb 2006 at 01:31 - 23

If you have only gotten 10 golds total off of the ettins, then you have only done two or three runs total; hardly a statistical sampling of the drop possibilities. In an hour I usually get 5-7 golds (4 cycles), and I have done many, many, many hours of farming them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eclair

I dunno, out of the 10+ gold's I've gotten from Ettins, all were major except for 1 superior beastmastery, not to mention everything they drop sells for very little, so I just got annoyed. Might as well go for a consistant source of income rather than bet it on luck.

nuee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Isengard

guildless for now

E/Me

08 Feb 2006 at 01:32 - 24

No, I meant exactly what I said. It's a bugged area.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bio-Flame

Don't you mean that IF you don't kill anyting in Nebo you will trigger the code?
If you don't kill nothing other than Ettins inside the Settlement, won't it trigger the code?

It's like farming Griffins on Augury, after a while it will trigger.

nuee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Isengard

guildless for now

E/Me

08 Feb 2006 at 01:36 - 25

I'm not a liar, and perhaps the ettins do love me, but I also farm them a lot, all of the time. I have 8 characters on 2 accounts, all very well-equipped, well-fed and wealthy thanks primarily to ettin and oro farming.

Most of the people who say they have gotten poor drops from the Kryta ettins either are not zoning correctly, or have given up after a few unlucky cycles. It's a game of skill and persistence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentAssassin

nuee, sry mate but I do think your lying

if every run of you gives 5-150k,... hmm so you got then 15 FoW armours??

oh well... if your not lying well then maybe the ettins just love you

Nameless

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

08 Feb 2006 at 02:15 - 26

Wait, so nuee, you start from Beetletun, not killing any Ettins at Nebo, and go to Ascalon Settlement and kill the ettins, then go back to nebo, and go back to Ascalon Settlement, and etc..?

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

08 Feb 2006 at 03:10 - 27

Ettins are not the best source of income. The more people farm that area the more anet will nerf the drops in that area. Doesn't matter how many times you have done it yourself.

Since this place has been lowered and less are doing riverside I bet you can probly go back and get some decent drops. Best farming places are areas most people do not do.

Some of the best drops I've ever got came from lvl 12-14 mergoyles because no one ever farms them.

nuee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Isengard

guildless for now

E/Me

08 Feb 2006 at 04:19 - 28

Almost. You cycle in and out of North Kryta from Nebo on the west and Scoundrel's Rise on the east, killing nothing in either Nebo or Scoundrel's Rise. In other words, kill east thru NK, zone to SR and back, then kill west thru NK, zone to N and back, and repeat the NK kills ad infinitum until your bags are full. Kill ettins and oak trees only, avoid 'goyles, scales and tengu using Sprint.

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Originally Posted by Nameless

Wait, so nuee, you start from Beetletun, not killing any Ettins at Nebo, and go to Ascalon Settlement and kill the ettins, then go back to nebo, and go back to Ascalon Settlement, and etc..?

Eclair

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

08 Feb 2006 at 06:13 - 29

Hmmm, I'll try that this weekend. How many golds do you usually get before you get a superior?

capblueberry

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Lexington, SC

Grenths Mercenaries[DEAD]

08 Feb 2006 at 17:00 - 30

i managed to get about 6k in 30-40 min last nite troll farming with my 55 monk

icemonkey

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

08 Feb 2006 at 17:13 - 31

i have a 55 necro and i do trolls at droks and griffins/minotours

the way i see it and something most people havn't mentioned is that most of the time the guys drop their collectors items (griffon wings, minitour horns, troll tusks) now troll tusks are worth 8 gold and wings/horns are worth 25

so if you are unlucky you will prolly make more cash from selling at merchant by griffons

but griffons dont drop good items like the trolls CAN. I have gotten some good weapon mods to salvage from griffons and i dropped a couple black dyes. but griffons only drop axes swords shields and bows while trolls can drop staffs

I salvage most of those crappy weapons and i get a lot of wood steel and iron its pretty close, there is no real clear winner except that trolls can be a little faster but for my 55 necro i cant kill the troll bosses but i can kill the griffons so i do that and i feel my drops are overall better

Keyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

08 Feb 2006 at 17:35 - 32

I tried doing ettins the way it's posted here.

First time I got a sup prot prayers and a bunch of crappy majors. Once I zoned out and back in they started dropping nothing or minors and a few majors for over an hour. I dont know what you mean about it being bugged and farming code not kicking in, it seems to kick in almost straight away for me.

From my experience it's worth a try once in a while for a chance at a good sup, but as a regular farming spot it's unreliable.

Pevil Lihatuh

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yorkshire, UK

R/Me

08 Feb 2006 at 18:03 - 33

I do the ettin run killing the ones in Nebo too. I typically get about 10 purples, 2 sups and 6 minors (rough guess) but the trouble is, most sups are worth no more than 300 gold, majors are rubbish and most minors are, well... bleh. So unless you find tons of Sup Vigs/Monk runes/Fire Magics/Major Vigs(major are pretty common) then I'd say most of the times a run (once each way I'm counting here, so from Beetleton tohrough NKP and back) I probably make about 10 - 15k.

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

08 Feb 2006 at 18:12 - 34

People, getting 5-150K a run isn't strange at all.. I get about 2-1500K in an UW run. That 1500K is when I find a gold Crystaline Sword, the 2K, if I don't find anything at all. And yes, I don't find gold Crystaline Swords that often, though, if I say 2-1500K, I'm not saying how much chance I have to get that 1500K, since in this case, it's pretty damn small.

Keyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

08 Feb 2006 at 18:22 - 35

We're talking about ettins, not UW.

nuee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Isengard

guildless for now

E/Me

08 Feb 2006 at 18:48 - 36

Um, no, the OP was on whether there was anything more profitable beyond farming griffons and trolls. So, farming UW is a perfectly legitimate response.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyote

We're talking about ettins, not UW.

nuee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Isengard

guildless for now

E/Me

08 Feb 2006 at 18:59 - 37

A "run" to me is longer, 4 round trips through North Kryta, as my bags are full after that. Takes about an hour with a very fast ettin-killing build.

Note that the Merchants in LA and Droks will pay more for some minor and major unsalvaged runes than the Rune trader will for salvaged ones. Example: 400g vs 25 g for minor tactics.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pevil Lihatuh

I do the ettin run killing the ones in Nebo too. I typically get about 10 purples, 2 sups and 6 minors (rough guess) but the trouble is, most sups are worth no more than 300 gold, majors are rubbish and most minors are, well... bleh. So unless you find tons of Sup Vigs/Monk runes/Fire Magics/Major Vigs(major are pretty common) then I'd say most of the times a run (once each way I'm counting here, so from Beetleton tohrough NKP and back) I probably make about 10 - 15k.

Keyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

08 Feb 2006 at 19:09 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuee

Um, no, the OP was on whether there was anything more profitable beyond farming griffons and trolls. So, farming UW is a perfectly legitimate response.

Um, no. I said that in reply to "People, getting 5-150K a run isn't strange at all.".

People didn't believe your 5 - 150k ettin runs, nobody said it was strange to make that much in UW.

General Wise Guy

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Gresham, Oregon

Burning Sun Ninjas

W/Mo

08 Feb 2006 at 20:11 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by capblueberry

Ok i have a 55-hp monk and a solo warrior and i was wondering

Would it b more profitable to solo trolls outside of droks with my monk or kill griffons outside augury with my warrior or vice versa?

Or is there something else that i could do with one of these characters that makes even more money than either of these?

take ur 55 down to the UW... get a N/Me SS/SV partner and ur set. u need, obviously, the corrects skills.
and doing this is 500x more profitable. also minotaurs in elona are easier than the trolls. i can make about 10k an hour at elona. u also can make a large profit poer leveling people there.

Bio-Flame

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

SL

E/

08 Feb 2006 at 20:25 - 40

I keep hearing people talking about farming Ettins with Invinci-Monk builds ( 55hps monks).

I have both Invinci-Monk builds and a Warrior farming build. I am fairly good with either of them - I am not the best but I am not the worst neither.

I have to say that Ettin farming goes a lot faster with the Warrior build than the Invinci-Monk. THe 55hp monk build isn't suited to Ettin farming. Takes too long.

Also, I don't understand why the hell the farmer shouldn't kill both the Ettins on Nebo Terrace AND the Ettins on North Kryta Settlement.
It doesn't make sense, it's just a "waste" of Ettins really.
The farming code will trigger sooner or later whether you do or do not kill the Ettins on Nebo.

At least, that's my experience and I farm that place a lot.

Also, 5-150k per run is just plain wrong. Sure, you can get a Sup Absortion Rune and cash close to the 150k.... but that's like to say you can go to the UW, get the Crystaline sword and cash in 1.5 mill (or stuff like that).

It CAN happen..... sure it can. But it's very very very rare.
Rare is rare, common is common. 150k Is rare on Ettin runs. Very rare.