Griffon Farming Help

Eragon Dragonslayer

Eragon Dragonslayer

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Hi i was wondering if anyone has a video of griffon farming with an axe? i already used the search button...so dont tell me to use it
im looking for a vid that shows exzactly what to do and a full screen vid would be perfect thanks.. Also was wondering if there is a solo build for the new uw?


~Eragon~

DC_Ross_Dark

DC_Ross_Dark

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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[FcUK] Forgot The Ghostlyyyyy [WM] War Machine

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isn't as easy as it was b4 m8 because even the wars used zealots fire for half thier damage. Apart from that they used this build:

-Healing Hands (Use when Cyclone is recharing)
-Healing Breeze (Use constantly ^^)
-Vigorous Spirit (Can do without but is nice help)
-Live Vicariously (Key healing, use cyclone to hit 10 surrounding foes and gain +150 HP)
-Mending (Enchant)
-Bonettis Defence (Use to regen Mana)
-Cyclone Axe (Use for Adren for Bonettis and for heal with Vicariously)
-Zealots fire (Added Damage, NOTE: No longer possible to use this against Gryphs as far as i know).

I think it went

Axe Mastery: 5+4
Healing Prayers: 12
Smite: 10

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

that is a slow build >_<

10 healing
11-12 axe
14 tactics


cyclone axe
bonneti's defence
watchyourself
breeze
gladiators defence
vigerous spirit
live vicously
mending

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

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If you want to farm griffons quickly I suggest you use a sword.

Me NoFat

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx
If you want to farm griffons quickly I suggest you use a sword. Since you have been helping me with the Forge Runner Thread I will show you in game how the above build or a modification of it is much faster than a sword build. Their really is nothing faster than an axe build or a 55 monk for this type of farming. Send me a pm Sk8tborderx that has your IGN. If we can meet in an international district one night I will be more than happy to show you.

Sk8tborderx

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I don't put any points into sword. I use 16 tactics and do damage with riposte, deadly riposte, and glads defense.

karunpav

karunpav

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Here's my build:

Cyclone Axe
Bonetti's Defense
Gladiator's Defense {E}
Healing Breeze
Vigorous Spirit
"Watch Yourself!"
Blathazar's Spirit
Live Vicariously

0 Axe- Cyclone Axe is only for healing if you need it
16 Tactics- Glad's Defense does 37 damage and can kill off a griffon in 15 seconds
10 Smiting- This is for Balthazar's Spirit; after you get hit twice, Bonetti's is fully charged
8 Healing- Self-Expainatory.

Sk8tborderx

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With smiting at 12 balth spirit only gives 1 stike of adrenaline. Take out the points in smiting just for that. If you have cyclone axe there is no reason to rely on balths spirit for adrenaline.

Me NoFat

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I would also say that if you move the smiting out and meet your axe req and just span cyclone/bons def when glds def is recharging your damage output would go up considerably with a 3:1 vamp axe.

Eragon Dragonslayer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by karunpav
Here's my build:

Cyclone Axe
Bonetti's Defense
Gladiator's Defense {E}
Healing Breeze
Vigorous Spirit
"Watch Yourself!"
Blathazar's Spirit
Live Vicariously

0 Axe- Cyclone Axe is only for healing if you need it
16 Tactics- Glad's Defense does 37 damage and can kill off a griffon in 15 seconds
10 Smiting- This is for Balthazar's Spirit; after you get hit twice, Bonetti's is fully charged
8 Healing- Self-Expainatory. i use this build cept i use Mending instead of watch yourself should i use watch yourself?

Eragon Dragonslayer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Me NoFat
I would also say that if you move the smiting out and meet your axe req and just span cyclone/bons def when glds def is recharging your damage output would go up considerably with a 3:1 vamp axe. My attributes are 11 axe
11 tactics
9 healing
8 smiting what should i change? and yes Me nofat i will pm u in game so u can show me thanks =)

Willy Rockwell

Willy Rockwell

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Join Date: May 2005

I don't even use a weapon when I farm Griffons and Hydras. Here is my build.

1-Blessed Aura
2-Mending
3-Essence Bond
4-Protective Spirit
5-Healing Breeze
6-Reversal of Fortune
7-Shield of Judgement
8-Zealots Fire

My attributes are Healing 13, Smiting 15, Protection 9, Divine 9

When I step outside I activate 1,2 and 3. Just before stepping into the agro circle I fire 8, 4 and 5. When I am surrounded by all available enemy I hit SOJ, then every 3 seconds activate 4,5 and 6 until everything is dead. Instead of fighting back I am picking up drops, in case I get killed unexpectedly.

If there is a boss in the group I target him and wand him so he dies with the rest. My secondary is Me, and I use Mantra of Resolve against enemies who can interrupt. In that case I replace Reversal of Fortune.

BTW Reversal of Fortune is a great cheap skill. It offers health protection, recharges fast and costs only 5 to use. With ZF on it is a cost-effective way to damage a large group.

axe

axe

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You only need 2 spells to keep your health up

Mending @ 3 pips
Live Vicariously at 8HP per hit

I use a vamp axe, but thats just for speed (extra 3 damage a hit)

Bonnetis for energy and to reduce damage
Glads D. with 16 tactics (I have a shield with +1 tactics so 20% of the time my tactics is at 17 which does 39 damage per block and you gain 1 additional second out of Glads D)
Cyclone Axe (damage dealing and healing)

So those are the required skills in my mind for a W/Mo farmer the rest is just preference. So the build I use:

Exocutioners Strike (Choice slot)
Penetrating Blow (choice)
Sprint/Disrupting Chop (choice I take sprint if I want to farm faster, Dis. Chop if I want to kill the monk boss, you can take anything you want really)

Cyclone Axe (required)
Bonnetis (required)
Glads D (required)
Live Vic. (required)
Mending (required)

Equipment (this is my preference)

I use a Vampiric Battlepick of Defense
14^50 (15 while enchanted would be better)
Vamp 3-1
Armor +5

Shield
-2 while enchanted (you really should have a shield with this mod for farming)
2nd mod is better mine is Tactics +1 20%

Ascalon Helm (+1 tactics and red. damage from attacks) The rest is Gladiators.

The build is pretty fast, and very easy to run.

WolflordUlrik

WolflordUlrik

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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Fastest build is w/n with axe.
Best all around warrior build is:
Sword

Gladiators Defense
Bonnettis
Shield Stance
Doylak
Desperation Blow(my favorite attk skill)
Ripost
Deadly Ripost
Heal Sig

Get your tactics at 16
sword at 10
str 10

Its fast because you have ripost going off all the time and desp blow every 7 with no knockdown. Shield Stance lasts 21 secs and doesn't go away when another skill is used so you have a lot of damage time w/o worrying about health.
It's a reliable, very fast, build where you never have to worry about your secondary and can solo most things besides griffons.


But the fastest griffon farming build is w/n with SS and MOP

Spiteful Spirit
Mark of Pain
Cyclone Axe
Watch Yourself!
Doylak Signet
Shield Stance
Bonnettis
Heal Sig

Again 13 tact 12 curses 10strength remainder in axe.
Shield stance gets you all the heal you need and lets you SS and MOP w/o much rockshot trouble and Bonnettis gives you energy regen and 1 heal.

SS a griff, turn and MOP a griff and start attacking another griffon to build addren. Now you have a cyclone axe that does +34dmg. Don't attack the mop'd griffon and SS whenever you have the energy. you can drop a group (of any size) in 25 sec or less.

In 20 secs: An SS'd griff will attack 15+times(berzerk stance) SS does 29 each attack so they all take 435 damage from one SS in 20secs + 4 cyclone axes = 136 (only 4 beacuse you need heal time as well)
435+136=571dmg with only one ss.
Wammo builds are too slow becuase they are all defense, and zealots fire does greatly reduced damage vs griffons

holden

holden

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx
I don't put any points into sword. I use 16 tactics and do damage with riposte, deadly riposte, and glads defense.
and im not sure why you would farm against melee foes any other way. for some reason guys want to use cyclone axe....

but this is the way if you want to finish sometime in the next 4 days.

Me NoFat

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Quote:
Originally Posted by holden
and im not sure why you would farm against melee foes any other way. for some reason guys want to use cyclone axe....

but this is the way if you want to finish sometime in the next 4 days. I finish all the griffons in under 10 min and that is giving some cushion. Cyclone is the faster way. That is why guys want to use it. I have tried both ways and mastered them both. IMO cyclone wins hands down. I am going to meet up with S8 to do some farming and watch his sword build then show him my axe build. I am interested because he claims his will be faster by far We shall see. If I have to eat my words I will do it in this post.

holden

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i'd like to know how it works out. please do post the results

Sk8tborderx

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I will have to talk to Me NoFat about this but I am hoping to test the builds on the minos at the elona mission. The minos are always easy to group and you don't have to worry about getting a bad spawn. We could time the run from after the gate opens until all the minos are dead. Either myself or Me NoFat will post the results on here for all to see.

Sab

Sab

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Me NoFat: On average, how long does it take to kill each Griffon? It takes me and my Sword/Riposte build around 15 seconds per Griffon, and I'd be very interested to know of (and learn) another build that can go faster than that.

plastichead

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

here is my griffon build:

healing prayers: 8
smiting: 5
axe: 13
tactics: 15

Glads defense
bonettis defense
cyclone axe
zealots fire
executioners strike (for the orange boss)
vigorous spirit
live vicariously
mending

its easy to use and very forgiving if you mess up

cast your 2 maintained enchants, making sure you have 20 energy when done casting. run and aggro at least 6 griffons and minos (this is because cylones will refill bonettis even if you have no adrenaline) 9 is preferred though.
if you have the orange boss aggroed as well, make sure he is your main target. when you have them all aggroed hit glads then zealots, then vigorous spirit, then hack away at the boss while glads is up. by the time glads is done, bonettis will be ready to use, use it. as soon as energy is full: hit cyclones axe then bonettis again, repeat that until glads has recharged.
then hit glad, cyclone, vigorous, executioners, cyclone, vigorous, executioners, cylone, bonettis, and repeat cylone axe and bonettis combo until glads is finished again

i find the executioners strike kills the boss around the same time as the rest of the griffons. this is the most efficient way to kill griffons that i have found, i really don't understand the need for watch yourself or dolyak signet.

Reverend Jekyll

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Willy Rockwell
I don't even use a weapon when I farm Griffons and Hydras. Here is my build.

1-Blessed Aura
2-Mending
3-Essence Bond
4-Protective Spirit
5-Healing Breeze
6-Reversal of Fortune
7-Shield of Judgement
8-Zealots Fire

My attributes are Healing 13, Smiting 15, Protection 9, Divine 9

When I step outside I activate 1,2 and 3. Just before stepping into the agro circle I fire 8, 4 and 5. When I am surrounded by all available enemy I hit SOJ, then every 3 seconds activate 4,5 and 6 until everything is dead. Instead of fighting back I am picking up drops, in case I get killed unexpectedly.

If there is a boss in the group I target him and wand him so he dies with the rest. My secondary is Me, and I use Mantra of Resolve against enemies who can interrupt. In that case I replace Reversal of Fortune.

BTW Reversal of Fortune is a great cheap skill. It offers health protection, recharges fast and costs only 5 to use. With ZF on it is a cost-effective way to damage a large group. That's pretty much the exact build I use. On my monk...

I think the debate between Watchful Spirit and Mending is really how much you want to put into Healing Prayers. Watchful Spirit always gives you +2 regen, regardless of how much you put into HP.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

zealots fire O_- emm i dont see that fitting so well (on plastic heads build)

WolflordUlrik

WolflordUlrik

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Quote:
Originally Posted by LuxA
Me NoFat: On average, how long does it take to kill each Griffon? It takes me and my Sword/Riposte build around 15 seconds per Griffon, and I'd be very interested to know of (and learn) another build that can go faster than that. 15sec PER griffon, you might as well be a runner...
Did u guys even read my build?

plastichead

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
zealots fire O_- emm i dont see that fitting so well (on plastic heads build) thats why i spam vigorous while glads is up, but i really wish i could replace it with a more effective damage dealer.

Sab

Sab

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by WolflordUlrik
15sec PER griffon, you might as well be a runner...
Did u guys even read my build? Ahh I missed that. I've never thought about using SS as a Warrior primary for some reason. Gonna cap SS and give that a try thanks.

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

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@WolflordUlrik - Doesn't mop make then scatter now?

WolflordUlrik

WolflordUlrik

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Yes but only if they get hit by it twice within 2-3 secs
Cyclone is every 4. The MOP'd griffon if not your primary target.
Pre nerf i would make 4-5 min runs. With MoP not being AoE its 10-12 sec and ANY group of griffons is leveled. I didnt need bonnettis back then but now i do and the run takes 7 mins 20-25 secs to bring down the griffs. Its great because cyclone does like 1-3dmg +34 so all the griffs except the boss and MoP'd one drop at the same time.

Sk8tborderx

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With the riposte build I use takes about the same time to complete the run. The fastest build I have ever used was w/r apply poison/cyclone axe/vim build. Drop eoe and pull the griffons and after 1 dies the rest go down right away.

WolflordUlrik

WolflordUlrik

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A similar build to that is the sever artery, gash, desperation blow, then epidemic.

.killjoy

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Yes, 55 monks own griffions and hydras but the problem is if azures get you with knock down you wil have no time to cast.. anything.. so i stay with hydras and desert griffions

Me NoFat

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Results are in. S8* can post the build he used it he wants. My build proved to be faster. I do not judge speed per griffon...I judge speed per group (10-20) of griffons or monitors. I believe that I have tried every build mentioned above and I am positive that my build kills faster. I would like to point out that S8*'s build is more versitile. With his build you can clean up griffons and monitors then head over and take out the hydras without changing your build so if that floats your boat the I recommend his build.

My build: (not really mine I am sure that I picked this up here or modified one to fit my needs)

Heal Sig
Cyclone Axe
Open*
Open*
Bons Def
Glads Def
Live Vic
Mending

* I fill the open slots with dismember and exec strike for killing bosses and cleaning up.

attribs:

I am not posting mine. Just know that you should meet your axe req to get the extra area damage from cyclone spamming. I also recommend high tactics so that glads lasts longer.

I use a sup axe, sup tactics, and sup str

Health is never an issue once you get the idea of always having a stance up. With liv vic on and mending you will never drop health below 60% so there is no need to fill the open slots with healing skills. Just us Glads when it is up and then spam cyclone + bons def when it is recharging.

I can hear some of you screaming *BS* my build is faster. If you really think so then just message me in game and prove it please because I would love to speed up my farming. Make sure you know how and have used my build before you message me though. Saves us both time.

lord of shadow

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build i use, and its pretty fast is
cyclone
bonnetti
sprint
glads def
balth's aura
mending
live vicariously
vigarous spirit

8 axe (thats the req of my axe)
around 11 smite 13 tactics
cyclone gets adrenaline for bonnetti's
glads does damage for a while while cycloneing, then use bonnetti followed by balth's aura THIS STOPS THE DEVOURERS INTERRUPTING IT enchants on all the time, sprint speeds up the run

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

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As Me NoFat has said, his build does kill faster. We tested both builds on the minos in the elona mission so we are sure the results are accurate. If you just want to kill a lot faster then go with his build, if you want to be able to go solo something else without having to change your build you can go with mine. Here is what I use:

Armor:
Full Glads , Ascalon Helm

Shield/Weapon:
Any sword/Malinons shield

Attributes:
8 heal
13 strength (+3 from runes)
16 tactics (+1 helm +3 from runes)

Skills:
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Glads Defence
Watch Yourself
Dolyak Signet
Healing Breeze
Mending
Balthazars Spirit

Me NoFat

Me NoFat

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx
As Me NoFat has said, his build does kill faster. We tested both builds on the minos in the elona mission so we are sure the results are accurate. If you just want to kill a lot faster then go with his build, if you want to be able to go solo something else without having to change your build you can go with mine. Here is what I use:

Armor:
Full Glads , Ascalon Helm

Shield/Weapon:
Any sword/Malinons shield

Attributes:
8 heal
13 strength (+3 from runes)
16 tactics (+1 helm +3 from runes)

Skills:
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Glads Defence
Watch Yourself
Dolyak Signet
Healing Breeze
Mending
Balthazars Spirit \


Happy that you posted that. There are advantage to both builds to be sure. I also feel that both builds give you a good foundation to start playing with your own farming builds if you are new to it. Riposte and Cyclone are staples of Sword and Axe farming.

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Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

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does anybody have a good build for w/m without any elite skills?

sigried

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Ye Old

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My personal build is

1.cyclone xe
2.Bonetties defense
3.Glads def
4.Vigorus spirit
5.executioner strike
6.live vicarusly
7.Mending
8.sprint


Ok for grifons i start from augry rock.
as soon as you start use mendin, wait until it recharges up to 20 again,and then use live vicarously, you will only have 15 energy left.

after this as soon as you engage enemy activate glads defense and vigorus spirit, after this use cyclone axe, once done this activate the bonetis def and wait until recover energy, keep doing this until glads def recharges and hit glad def followed by vigorous spirit.

healin 8-9
stenth-8-9
axe mastery 10
tactis all the rest of the points you have

very easy you just need practice you can olso use this with trolls slaying outside drogs forge