)Looking forward to getting some feedback.
The Acolyte
Solo Monk Offhand ~ Fiery Flame Spitter
The Acolyte
Just curious, has anyone tried using the hand axe Fiery Flame Spitter with a +20% enchant mod for solo monking? It has the 10% chance for fast cast, but comes with a -5 armor as well. I was thinking that since armor doesn't matter that much at all, this would be a better combo over a standard axe or sword (including the cool look of the IDS, chaos axe, etc )
Looking forward to getting some feedback.
The Acolyte
)Looking forward to getting some feedback.
The Acolyte
Avarre
The FFS, in fact, is better than you portray it.
It has 10% change of fast recharge, and -10 armor while attacking I believe.
The armor penalty is completely irrelevant, so that need not be taken into consideration. The 10% spell recharge is exceptional, however, and can be compared to the HoD sword easily in terms of efficiency. Considering 55hp soloers have maintained energy, it is technically a better, and therefore the best, choice.
What I'm saying is... I'd use it
It has 10% change of fast recharge, and -10 armor while attacking I believe.
The armor penalty is completely irrelevant, so that need not be taken into consideration. The 10% spell recharge is exceptional, however, and can be compared to the HoD sword easily in terms of efficiency. Considering 55hp soloers have maintained energy, it is technically a better, and therefore the best, choice.
What I'm saying is... I'd use it
The Acolyte
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
The FFS, in fact, is better than you portray it.
It has 10% change of fast recharge, and -10 armor while attacking I believe.
The armor penalty is completely irrelevant, so that need not be taken into consideration. The 10% spell recharge is exceptional, however, and can be compared to the HoD sword easily in terms of efficiency. Considering 55hp soloers have maintained energy, it is technically a better, and therefore the best, choice.
What I'm saying is... I'd use it
Perfect...thanks for the clarification above on stats. Trying to remember from memory, as I'm at work I'll be using it for sure then!
The Acolyte
It has 10% change of fast recharge, and -10 armor while attacking I believe.
The armor penalty is completely irrelevant, so that need not be taken into consideration. The 10% spell recharge is exceptional, however, and can be compared to the HoD sword easily in terms of efficiency. Considering 55hp soloers have maintained energy, it is technically a better, and therefore the best, choice.
What I'm saying is... I'd use it
Perfect...thanks for the clarification above on stats. Trying to remember from memory, as I'm at work I'll be using it for sure then!The Acolyte
King Tao
Hi m8's,
Where can i found one of those items (gonna try this tonite)
thx by advance.
Where can i found one of those items (gonna try this tonite)
thx by advance.
cerb
FFS is much more useful than HoD for a solo monk. HoD, unlike people think, isn't any useful for an invinci-monk. HoD is real good for warriors, but i-monks don't need +5 energy, as their energy should nearly always be full (Balts Spirit, Bonettis, etc)
The only reason it's worth so much is because it was taken out of the game, its usefulness to a solo monk isn't proportional to its price on the open market, at all.
The only reason it's worth so much is because it was taken out of the game, its usefulness to a solo monk isn't proportional to its price on the open market, at all.
striderkaaru
Quote:
Originally Posted by cerb
FFS is much more useful than HoD for a solo monk. HoD, unlike people think, isn't any useful for an invinci-monk. HoD is real good for warriors, but i-monks don't need +5 energy, as their energy should nearly always be full (Balts Spirit, Bonettis, etc)
The only reason it's worth so much is because it was taken out of the game, its usefulness to a solo monk isn't proportional to its price on the open market, at all. the usefulness of the hod sword was for the ability to put a 20% enchant pommel on it. the extra 5 energy was just a bonus. the ffs has the same option, so it boils down to +5 energy or 10% skill recharge. i would go with the skill recharge.
The only reason it's worth so much is because it was taken out of the game, its usefulness to a solo monk isn't proportional to its price on the open market, at all. the usefulness of the hod sword was for the ability to put a 20% enchant pommel on it. the extra 5 energy was just a bonus. the ffs has the same option, so it boils down to +5 energy or 10% skill recharge. i would go with the skill recharge.
Rhuobhe
For solo monks, necros, eles, and mesmers the FFS is better than the HoD weapons, hands down. There is no competition.
HoD is just a staus symbol, nothing more.
HoD is just a staus symbol, nothing more.
Jiao Yang
erm.. isnt it 10% SPELL recharge? it got nerfed again
Racthoh
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiao Yang
erm.. isnt it 10% SPELL recharge? it got nerfed again
It was a change in the wording actually, they've been doing a lot of that recently.
cerb
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
For solo monks, necros, eles, and mesmers the FFS is better than the HoD weapons, hands down. There is no competition.
HoD is just a staus symbol, nothing more. Yeah, like he said. HoD = look at me, I'm rich (for a solo monk that is)
Any weapon with a 20% enchant mod does just as good as the HoD, a 20% enchant FFS is just so good when the 10% recharge kicks in for SB or SoJ : ))
HoD is just a staus symbol, nothing more. Yeah, like he said. HoD = look at me, I'm rich (for a solo monk that is)
Any weapon with a 20% enchant mod does just as good as the HoD, a 20% enchant FFS is just so good when the 10% recharge kicks in for SB or SoJ : ))
Tsunami Rain
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Tao
Where can i found one of those items (gonna try this tonite)
thx by advance.
@ Wrath. You just missed him. "X" marks the spot. Hold down on your ctrl button when close. He is off behind the tree. He is not easily seen. Taken From: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=93087
Gildor Took
see this thread,
Which is better Hod or Fiery Flame Spitter?http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=108130
Which is better Hod or Fiery Flame Spitter?http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=108130
The Acolyte
Just to clarify, in my opinion the HoD sword is really only appealing to my IW Me (which I have btw . If you have an IW Mesmer you know exactly what I'm talking about. For monks, after soloing last night with the FFS, it is hands down the best weapon to use with the +20% enchant mod. The spell recharge did kick in and it was nice when it did. No, it didn't make the runs dramatically easier or anything, but I could see a run or two here where it COULD make the difference between death and survival.
The Acolyte
. If you have an IW Mesmer you know exactly what I'm talking about. For monks, after soloing last night with the FFS, it is hands down the best weapon to use with the +20% enchant mod. The spell recharge did kick in and it was nice when it did. No, it didn't make the runs dramatically easier or anything, but I could see a run or two here where it COULD make the difference between death and survival.The Acolyte
Cherno
I like to change the FFS into an IFS of Ench (Add Icy Axe Mod). If you are going with a necro they can cast spinal shivers and you can do some active interrupting of coldfires, etc
Messner
Side note, the collector isn't always there, I dunno if it's a bug or what but I'd say he's there 80-90% of the time. I find it wierd but oh well not like there's anything hard on the way to make the run inconvenient.
FFS is nice I guess in theory but if you know what you're doing as a 55 you can stick to your looks equipment. 20% Chanting IDS FTW!! If you're looking for this weapon to change your ability and go from suck to not, might as well salvage the runes out of your armor and give up because if you're concerned about a new weapon to change the tides I think you're wasting your time and plat going to UW.
FFS is nice I guess in theory but if you know what you're doing as a 55 you can stick to your looks equipment. 20% Chanting IDS FTW!! If you're looking for this weapon to change your ability and go from suck to not, might as well salvage the runes out of your armor and give up because if you're concerned about a new weapon to change the tides I think you're wasting your time and plat going to UW.
The Acolyte
yeah...it seems to be a random spawn. Maybe Anet's way of making the items somewhat valuable for those patient enough to farm them??
Messner
Except that you can farm about 20 ffs worth of lodestones in half an hour and make 2 trips given you dont find him the first time.
The Acolyte
lol...true true. You'd be surprised at the number of people that will only go once though. Skill capping comes to mind as another example of this type of laziness....
JR
You can also try and buy a "pre-nerf" one, that has 15% skill recharge. Not many of them around anymore though.
sno
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR-
You can also try and buy a "pre-nerf" one, that has 15% skill recharge. Not many of them around anymore though.
It's been 'confirmed' that all the 15% ones were changed when they were nerfed. Even the ones that were 15% are now 10%.
fgarvin
Using my Mo/Me and Arcane Echo, when the 10% kicks in on SoJ, its ready to be cast again when the Echo'd SoJ ends. That’s over a minute of continuous SoJ at 53 damage per hit. The FFS is the way to go for just about any farming.
I'm sure someone has already figured out the exact amount of time, but I'm pretty sure that it's over 70 seconds.
I'm sure someone has already figured out the exact amount of time, but I'm pretty sure that it's over 70 seconds.
Messner
Even when the 10% doesn't kick in it's like 2-3 seconds between. Let's assume you get a conservative 18 seconds on the first SoJ before you use your echoed one so 18 + 21 * 1.2 = 43.2 seconds game rounded to 43. So you get 43 seconds of SoJ and a 2 second down time + 1 second cast time for the 3rd if you need it. Or you could also wait for another 5-7 seconds and use echo as it will have recharged shortly after and you can get another 43 seconds+ of SoJ. Outside of killing aatxes though I dont really know why you'd need more than 43-44 seconds of SoJ anyways.
Zephyr Jackson
I sold my 19% FFS for 3 ecto when it was 10k/ecto
liuu
Do you need to have 3 in axe mastery to get the full 10% on skill recharge or does it not matter at all.
L I G H T
I have heard talk that they have nerfed the colloector completly, if this is true or not leave it here PLEASE!
cronk
last night i looked at the gameamp map for this collector, and it said he takes enchanted lodestones.....
do not fall for this evil trick. i deleted my pvp character, and made someone to go to presearing, just to get them, when i ran to the collector with my ranger, and i noticed he takes scorched lodestones.... i was furious, it was okay though since theres about a million elementals around. just remember...
its scorched lodestones that he takes, NOT enchanted
do not fall for this evil trick. i deleted my pvp character, and made someone to go to presearing, just to get them, when i ran to the collector with my ranger, and i noticed he takes scorched lodestones.... i was furious, it was okay though since theres about a million elementals around. just remember...
its scorched lodestones that he takes, NOT enchanted
liuu
I got mine yesterday so it's not true.
L I G H T
Alright thank you, I didn't want to waste 20ectos on something that is still reachiable.
The Acolyte
Quote:
Originally Posted by liuu
Do you need to have 3 in axe mastery to get the full 10% on skill recharge or does it not matter at all.
no....the req only applies to damage
{IceFire}
hes still there.... ignore all the people trying to sell it for 300k++
although i am stocking up in preparation for a nerf
although i am stocking up in preparation for a nerf
Spiteful Soul
The collector guy was probably, Out to lunch or taking a shit somewhere.
You just have to keep zoneing in and out. Until his finish and ready to sell
again.
Quik question would a 18% enchantment grip work okay on the Flame Spitter.
Or should I wait and buy a 19%. Cause a 20% cost alittle too much.
And I got the 18% waiting for me in my storage.
You just have to keep zoneing in and out. Until his finish and ready to sell
again.
Quik question would a 18% enchantment grip work okay on the Flame Spitter.
Or should I wait and buy a 19%. Cause a 20% cost alittle too much.
And I got the 18% waiting for me in my storage.
Linsys
Ok, this is NOT true, this item has NOT been removed from the game (the 15% has been removed all together there is NO 15% item any more the 10% is the ONLY one which exists all the items where changed).
The collector isn't always there, I had to do about 3 runs to find him, but he isn't that far... You also don't have to have favor to get the collector to spawn either.
The collector isn't always there, I had to do about 3 runs to find him, but he isn't that far... You also don't have to have favor to get the collector to spawn either.
Beat_Go_Stick
Naw, there are just multiple area spawn patterns for that region and the collector is only in one of them. If you run there and he is gone, just rezone and go again, collecting more lodestones along the way
I cannot stress the beauty of this item with an enchant mod on it. nothing like those times when the 10% kicks in and you basically get to keep SoJ up for 50 seconds or so
I cannot stress the beauty of this item with an enchant mod on it. nothing like those times when the 10% kicks in and you basically get to keep SoJ up for 50 seconds or so
Big_Iron
Yeah, he's defintely still there. I was just there earlier this week and picked up 6 FFS's. But he's not always in the same spot. Like Beat_Go_Stick said, rezone and go back. He'll be there.
Mustache Mayhem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Linsys
Ok, this is NOT true, this item has NOT been removed from the game (the 15% has been removed all together there is NO 15% item any more the 10% is the ONLY one which exists all the items where changed).
The collector isn't always there, I had to do about 3 runs to find him, but he isn't that far... You also don't have to have favor to get the collector to spawn either. not true link.. I have the 15% one.. maybe the only one in game too have'nt met anyone else with one.. been using it to solo monk even while protective bond was still working- it was nerfed to 10% after that.. before the hod became popular too- I can show you it in game if you want =] very few people knew about it before the nerf for whatever reason- I just did some research while making my own builds and got the thing way back.. I kept my builds on the down back then too- seemed like everyone was hod crazy at the time then that even got removed
The collector isn't always there, I had to do about 3 runs to find him, but he isn't that far... You also don't have to have favor to get the collector to spawn either. not true link.. I have the 15% one.. maybe the only one in game too have'nt met anyone else with one.. been using it to solo monk even while protective bond was still working- it was nerfed to 10% after that.. before the hod became popular too- I can show you it in game if you want =] very few people knew about it before the nerf for whatever reason- I just did some research while making my own builds and got the thing way back.. I kept my builds on the down back then too- seemed like everyone was hod crazy at the time then that even got removed