+1 Death magic (19%) Ghostly Staff with condition mod

Phydeaux

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Blazin Dragons

N/Me

Defensive Ghostly Staff of Death Magic


Energy +10
Cold Dmg. 11-22 (req. 8 Death (perfect))
Reduces Disease duration on you (20% (perfect))
Armor +5 (perfect)
Death Magic +1 (19% chance (near-perfect))


Uber Minion-Maker

Up to Level 19 Bone Fiends
Up to Level 19 Bone Horrors
Up to Level 14 Bone Minions

I personally think this is worth at least 100k but possibly quite a bit more. Any ideas?

Omeriko2

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/

the staff itself worth 5k
i would salvage and sell the 19% for 15k~

derrtyboy69

derrtyboy69

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Clouds

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/Me

omeriko is about right, its really not a good staff

Jiao Yang

Jiao Yang

Lunar Rabbit

Join Date: Dec 2005

the fact that it is ghostly is crushed by the lack of base skill recharge extras etc..
i agree with those prices

FCtSteveO

FCtSteveO

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Recharge and or casting are the most wanted on a staff so this wouldnt sell quickly if at all but anyways salvage and sell whatever you get.

Phydeaux

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Blazin Dragons

N/Me

haha! Ok, thanks for the info. Don't be offended if i ignore it.
Did any of you even bother looking up what other +1 death staffs sell for?

StueyG

StueyG

Kamaspama

Join Date: Dec 2005

Nunya Bizness

pupu / SLAP

W/

sorry but the only thing of value to do with that staff is the +1 19%... there are other staffs with it that sell for alot but that is because they have skill and casting recharges and this doesn't at all. I agree with the other pc's... no one will pay 100k for that staff.

5k for staff - 15k for wrapping if you salvage and sell

Bel Ebih

Bel Ebih

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Puerto Rico

Crusaders Of Valhalla [Odin]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phydeaux
haha! Ok, thanks for the info. Don't be offended if i ignore it.
Did any of you even bother looking up what other +1 death staffs sell for?
A perfect 20% DM+1 is now worth around 150k. I bought mine quite some time ago for 100k. Now, a 19% DM+1, as close as it is, is worth considerably less (around 40-50k) simply because it's not perfect. Same thing as with 15>50 weapons compared to 14>50 ones, or a +29hp mod compared to a +30hp mod. The difference is insignificant but the drop in price is rather large.

Still, this is the upgrade itself already salvaged. In your case, you have a good mod on a worthless staff. Anyone that wants a DM+1 wrapping will surely just buy it separately from someone else and put it on another way better staff, most likely a collector's 20/20 (like I did back when I bought mine). So as others have suggested, I'd say just try to salvage the wrapping and sell that. If you get wood or the +5 armor insted, nothing lost because you're not gonna be able to sell that staff anyway unless it's for very cheap to someone that may want to gamble salvaging it themselves.

P.S. Req 8 is not 'perfect' because the lowest req you can get on max damage is 7. The 20% condition reduction is not 'perfect' because there is no lower, since all condition mods always reduce by 20%, and even then, it's a crap mod. The +5 armor is perfect, and goes for 3-5k only, if you can get someone to buy it at all. That's why everyone has told you the staff itself is worthless. If you wanna ignore it and spend months with it in your inventory trying to sell it for 100k+ then that's your business.

Omeriko2

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bel Ebih
A perfect 20% DM+1 is now worth around 150k. I bought mine quite some time ago for 100k. Now, a 19% DM+1, as close as it is, is worth considerably less (around 40-50k) simply because it's not perfect. Same thing as with 15>50 weapons compared to 14>50 ones, or a +29hp mod compared to a +30hp mod. The difference is insignificant but the drop in price is rather large.

Still, this is the upgrade itself already salvaged. In your case, you have a good mod on a worthless staff. Anyone that wants a DM+1 wrapping will surely just buy it separately from someone else and put it on another way better staff, most likely a collector's 20/20 (like I did back when I bought mine). So as others have suggested, I'd say just try to salvage the wrapping and sell that. If you get wood or the +5 armor insted, nothing lost because you're not gonna be able to sell that staff anyway unless it's for very cheap to someone that may want to gamble salvaging it themselves.

P.S. Req 8 is not 'perfect' because the lowest req you can get on max damage is 7. The 20% condition reduction is not 'perfect' because there is no lower, since all condition mods always reduce by 20%, and even then, it's a crap mod. The +5 armor is perfect, and goes for 3-5k only, if you can get someone to buy it at all. That's why everyone has told you the staff itself is worthless. If you wanna ignore it and spend months with it in your inventory trying to sell it for 100k+ then that's your business.
19% death magic is 50k? right

Bel Ebih

Bel Ebih

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Puerto Rico

Crusaders Of Valhalla [Odin]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omeriko2
19% death magic is 50k? right
Just going by the idea of -1 from perfect mods pricing for 1/3 - 1/2 the price of perfect ones. For example, a +30hp Wrapping = 50-60k while a +29hp Wrapping = 20-30k. Attribut +1 mods are harder to put a price on but I'd say it's around that area, so if a 20% DM+1 = 100-150k, a 19% DM+1 should go for around 40-50k since it's the most sought after att+1 mod.

Omeriko2

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bel Ebih
Just going by the idea of -1 from perfect mods pricing for 1/3 - 1/2 the price of perfect ones. For example, a +30hp Wrapping = 50-60k while a +29hp Wrapping = 20-30k. Attribut +1 mods are harder to put a price on but I'd say it's around that area, so if a 20% DM+1 = 100-150k, a 19% DM+1 should go for around 40-50k since it's the most sought after att+1 mod.
29 wraping is not above 10k
and dm 20 worth 100k

Bel Ebih

Bel Ebih

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Puerto Rico

Crusaders Of Valhalla [Odin]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omeriko2
29 wraping is not above 10k
and dm 20 worth 100k
Heh. If you say so. Moving on.

Phydeaux

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Blazin Dragons

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bel Ebih
A perfect 20% DM+1 is now worth around 150k. I bought mine quite some time ago for 100k. Now, a 19% DM+1, as close as it is, is worth considerably less (around 40-50k) simply because it's not perfect. Same thing as with 15>50 weapons compared to 14>50 ones, or a +29hp mod compared to a +30hp mod. The difference is insignificant but the drop in price is rather large.

Still, this is the upgrade itself already salvaged. In your case, you have a good mod on a worthless staff. Anyone that wants a DM+1 wrapping will surely just buy it separately from someone else and put it on another way better staff, most likely a collector's 20/20 (like I did back when I bought mine). So as others have suggested, I'd say just try to salvage the wrapping and sell that. If you get wood or the +5 armor insted, nothing lost because you're not gonna be able to sell that staff anyway unless it's for very cheap to someone that may want to gamble salvaging it themselves.
Thanks for taking the time to explain your opinion in detail. I tend to agree with you, although i don't think buying a DM+1 mod -perfect or otherwise- is as easy as you make it sound.
It also has reaffirmed my skeptisizm of the first post valuing the mod at 15k and those that followed which blindly agreed with it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bel Ebih
P.S. Req 8 is not 'perfect' because the lowest req you can get on max damage is 7.
That would be true if we were talking about swords, however req 8 is perfect for max staves.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bel Ebih
That's why everyone has told you the staff itself is worthless. If you wanna ignore it and spend months with it in your inventory trying to sell it for 100k+ then that's your business.
I've done some asking around and have shown the staff to several necros and can say with confidence that the staff is not worthless, although it is lower than what I initially thought it was. The majority of appraisals were in the 50-75k range with the highest offer at 40k. Gordacks Hook Blood being valued around 80K would further tend to support that range.

Omeriko2

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phydeaux
Thanks for taking the time to explain your opinion in detail. I tend to agree with you, although i don't think buying a DM+1 mod -perfect or otherwise- is as easy as you make it sound.
It also has reaffirmed my skeptisizm of the first post valuing the mod at 15k and those that followed which blindly agreed with it.

That would be true if we were talking about swords, however req 8 is perfect for max staves.

I've done some asking around and have shown the staff to several necros and can say with confidence that the staff is not worthless, although it is lower than what I initially thought it was. The majority of appraisals were in the 50-75k range with the highest offer at 40k. Gordacks Hook Blood being valued around 80K would further tend to support that range.
Highest offer you got was 40k? right.
and once again, you cant really compare greens to golds

Funda

Funda

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Arcane Nexus [ANX]

N/Mo

Ok, I'm looking at your staff...

*still looking...

Alright, I've come to the conclusion that the staff has no desirable inherent mods that would support its worth at 50-75k. The only thing of worth on that staff is the Death Magic +1 (19%). The Req 8 death is nice, and the ghostly skin is nice, and the armor +5 is nice, but I'd rather have skill recharges any day in there than the current reduce disease...Its got one inherent mod, not two, and its a crappy one, IMO. My recommendation is to either salvage the mod off and sell it for whatever the current market value is, or find that person who offered you 40k for it and sell it.

...From a Necro's P.O.V.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

I'm a necro as well, and I can honestly say that I would only purchase this staff for the chance of salvaging the death magic wrapping.

33% chance of doing that for a 50K mod makes the staff worth around 20K.

Very clear value, IMO.