Rant About Rare Items

Loralai

Loralai

Purveyor of Useless Info

Join Date: Oct 2005

Perpetual Motion Squad [PMS]

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Lately I have gotten far too many rare items, i.e. mursaat garments, etc... which should, in my opinion yield superior runes, or gold items from tedious chests in high-end areas that aren't even max damage. In my opinion, if rare items can sometimes (most times in my case) yield only major runes, then contrarily, purple items should sometimes yield superiors.

It is very disheartening to spend an uber amount of time carefully taking out mursaat or what have you to finally get a rare drop and it be some crap like major fast casting, etc...

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Yes it sux that you can possibly hit a major from gold armor but the bottom line is its quicker with faction and rune trader.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

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If you had every gold dropped, be a max item or a superior rune, you'd see people just farming chests. By putting the chance that the item is not max or superior, it stops many people from farming chests excessively.

The Son Of Morgoth

The Son Of Morgoth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Maryland

The Servants Of Morgoth

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if we gtet more good rare item drops those items wont become good anymore since so many people will have em.

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esprit
If you had every gold dropped, be a max item or a superior rune, you'd see people just farming chests. By putting the chance that the item is not max or superior, it stops many people from farming chests excessively.
That's true, but beside the point. It really sucks to get a rare armor just to get a major rune out of them. This is NOT about the drop rates of the runes themselves, just about the "color" of the armor. If the drop is determined to be a major rune, just make the armor purple, not gold.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fantus
That's true, but beside the point. It really sucks to get a rare armor just to get a major rune out of them. This is NOT about the drop rates of the runes themselves, just about the "color" of the armor. If the drop is determined to be a major rune, just make the armor purple, not gold.
It wouldn't change anything. Then you'd just get disproportionately more purples than golds. At least the gold armor is worth more to the merchant if you get a crappy rune. Most major runes sell to the trader for what, 25 gold? The armor itself can be worth upwards of 300. And you can't just not ID purples either, because of the Major Vigor and Major Absorb, which actually are worth something.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
It wouldn't change anything. Then you'd just get disproportionately more purples than golds. At least the gold armor is worth more to the merchant if you get a crappy rune. Most major runes sell to the trader for what, 25 gold? The armor itself can be worth upwards of 300. And you can't just not ID purples either, because of the Major Vigor and Major Absorb, which actually are worth something.
So? The current situation is cheapening the word "rare". Does rare mean anything just because there is proportionately more of them? No.. it makes it more UNrare and more irritating

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

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Seeing how darn many 'rare gold' drops I get when farming ettins, I'd say the current system is great as is, the rares really aren't rare, maybe the rare prefix should just be removed so people don't think too highly of it.

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Would be nice to have 'rare' items such as weapons which were actually rare though... although.. my air offhand is rare in ever sense, +12 energy, req. 13 air.. halves recharge time 17%... on divine favour skills. One of these days, I'll figure out how to have 13 in air magic on my monk

Anyway, sorry for getting off-topic.

xxreaper008

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esprit
If you had every gold dropped, be a max item or a superior rune, you'd see people just farming chests. By putting the chance that the item is not max or superior, it stops many people from farming chests excessively.
Not True, Yesterday I was Mursat Farming (Not Telling Build) and a mursat dropeds gold garments. I identified it and is was a mjor divin Favor.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Loralai
Lately I have gotten far too many rare items, i.e. mursaat garments, etc... which should, in my opinion yield superior runes, or gold items from tedious chests in high-end areas that aren't even max damage.
Mudflation in action. Although it may be hard to believe, once upon a time major runes and weapons which were not perfect gold max were actually worth something.

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxreaper008
Not True, Yesterday I was Mursat Farming (Not Telling Build) and a mursat dropeds gold garments. I identified it and is was a mjor divin Favor.
You missed the little 'If' in front of Espirit's post.

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

i dont know.. it seems the longer you get a gold gear drop and to salavage it the crappier it gets.. may seems far off. but when a chest dropped a gold gear i salavaged it immedetaly and was a sup vigor...another dropped off a monster was a crap..i dont know in the game code that when any gold gear drops when it drops the code finds a random rune and it doesnt matter how many seconds you wait its that rune... or i can just be wayyyyy offf.. but hey when i salvaged my HOH gold gear drop from the chest..not HOH PVE HOH PVP.. minor blood rune.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

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My last few gold armor drops have yielded majors... crappy ones at that... I just never thought to complain about it.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fantus
That's true, but beside the point. It really sucks to get a rare armor just to get a major rune out of them. This is NOT about the drop rates of the runes themselves, just about the "color" of the armor. If the drop is determined to be a major rune, just make the armor purple, not gold.
With the Sorrow's Furnace update, if you remember, it introduced chest and keys, which guarantees a gold or purple item. It's that 'guarantee' which makes it so gold items aren't always max or superior. After the chest nerfing, you weren't guaranteed that you would even get a blue item from ANY chest, whether Ascalon or Southern Shiverpeaks.

Anet could either guarantee max/superior, major, or minor colors and in return the chance of unlocking a Gold Chest would drop significantly. Or Anet could leave it the way it is, and let the colors guarantee a specific range of items. And let chance give you that desperately sought after Superior Absorption or Superior Vigor.

Either way, players would always complain.

And a note: Over the weekend I got a gold armor to drop from a dwarf in THK, which ended up being a Superior Divine Favor rune. My team was congratulating me on the nice find, when in reality, I couldn't remember the last gold armor that dropped for me before that THK mission.

snapp

snapp

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

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before they added the whole chest/key update. It used to be..
blue = minor
purple = major
gold = Superior

almost 90% of the time.

you would get a gold armor drop and be almost certain it was superior. Then the update came and now almost all gold armors I get are major. I used to sell unid gold armor for 5K a pop no problem. Who in their right mind now would spend 5k just to id a major air rune bleh.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

And remember, even before that, Expert Salvage Kits weren't guaranteed to get the rune from the armor.

I'll take what we have now, over what what we had before. It's one thing to get a Major rune from a gold armor. It's another thing to see an ID'd Superior Vigor turn into a pile of salvage material. And to me, the latter is far far worse.

Monkness

Monkness

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Houston, TX

Green Jello [NOX]

Quote:
Originally Posted by lg5000
Would be nice to have 'rare' items such as weapons which were actually rare though... although.. my air offhand is rare in ever sense, +12 energy, req. 13 air.. halves recharge time 17%... on divine favour skills. One of these days, I'll figure out how to have 13 in air magic on my monk

Anyway, sorry for getting off-topic.
No way, this is totally on topic. I love seeing a chest opened and watching that gold Healing Ankh hit the ground. For a split second you think, "Maybe something useful!" You hold your breath while you ID the little fella and you see.... Energy +12, req 12 healing, +1 to fire magic with a 7% chance! AWESOME! At least I can feed the merchant with them.

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

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this is also like the golds w/o a damage mod, and not near max mods. it sucks! i mean, since when has these things been rare?

Monkness

Monkness

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Houston, TX

Green Jello [NOX]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Retribution X
this is also like the golds w/o a damage mod, and not near max mods. it sucks! i mean, since when has these things been rare?
It's rare that a gold item isn't max damage?