Troll Farming - Experience Exploitation

Amsterdam

Amsterdam

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Wisconsin

dth

Alright, time for a new thread, my ettin farmin thread was a hit so here is a in depth thread into Troll farming. Lets start with a list of what you need for this build.

Note this is, of course, not the only build that works but I have come to like it.

You will need:An axe that suites you. Mods for your axe that I reccomend: Sundering/Firey/Zelous/Vampiric/Furious/Trollslaying : whatever floats your boat. A level 20 M/mo that is a Droknars Forge. A few skills that are easily obtained
Alright the build is: Cyclone Axe Executioners Strike Gladiators defense {Elite} Bonetti's defense Vigorous Spirit Healing Breeze Holy Veil Mending
Attributes: Axe: 12-13 | Healing 8 | Tactics: as high as possible because of Gladiators Defense

As far as skills that are tough to get: the only one is Gladiators Defense, which you capture from the Facet of strength, which is the 6th boss in the Dragons Lair mission. If you are ascended you will have this mission so its not a tough cap to find.

You start out by exiting out Droks forge to the North, there will be a group of Avicarra on your left, and usually 2-3 trolls on the hill above them, I usually slide up around the Avicarra and take those Trolls down as a warm up, also it will get your adrenaline up quickly.

Refer to the map below for guidance.

After getting around the Avicarra you are ready to get some crazy expiriance. A scroll of Advnturers insight will keep you getting +250% exp for 5 minutes. This gets you a ton of exp per troll.

You walk into the entrance to the Ice Cave and agro a group of trolls, there should be a gathering of around 12-18 here, depending on spawns. You use the build I gave you in logical order to take them all down at once, while swinging away to keep adrenaline up, you won't even have an energy problem because of bonetti's.

In terms of farming items, these level 24 guys do drop golds and purples semi-frequently as well, I would reccomend farming them from time to time for some solo-variety. There is another screen below that shows a rare, max, req 8 flatbow that dropped for me, a purple also dropped from that group. The longbow had a 20% enchanting mod which I salvaged. Not bad for 2 minutes worth of work.

After the first big group proceed west and then north in the cave to the rest of the trolls. You are obligated to kill all the trolls relatively fast to increase the expiriance on each scroll, don't want it to run out! After killing the last group with the Boss in it you zone back and start again.

This is a GREAT way to powerlevel a friend or clients character, you can charge about 2k a level, if the person is around level 13, they get about 2 levels the first run, and they buy the scrolls. So you get 4k, plus some drops and lots of expiriance. This gem should not be overlooked in tyria. It is a great place for solo fun, guild fun (because you can doit with a couple people if you want) and powerleveling profit. A great way to farm skill points as well.

Here is the map:



Here is the screen from the first group of trolls.



Thank you all for your time, PM me in game if you have any questions, other builds are welcome to be posted here as well. I may be starting a class on this soon with more in depth info, depending on demand.

My guild is looking for mature, high level, active members, if you like this thread and my others, p.m. me in game, we can talk.

The best of luck to all of you in farming trolls, weather it be for drops, expiriance, or fun. Remeber, games are here for fun, thats the point of playing. Try and have fun

Beat_Go_Stick

Beat_Go_Stick

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Holy Veil? Hexxing trolls or just to get around the avicarra?

Amsterdam

Amsterdam

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Wisconsin

dth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat_Go_Stick
Holy Veil? Hexxing trolls or just to get around the avicarra? Yea back up for avicarra, I figured someone would call me on that. You don't really need other skills, you could just use another skill for damage I suppose though. Sometimes I fight the avicarra though.

anoriega

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Wisconsin

The Little Nutters [PWN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat_Go_Stick
Holy Veil? Hexxing trolls or just to get around the avicarra? There's a perfect spawn with no avicara, just go back into Drok's and back out if they're in the way

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

ive always looked on trolls as the easier versions of griffons with less drops ^^, good guide though!

drop breeze for sprint and holy viel for live vicausly

Toll Booth Willie

Toll Booth Willie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

tn, usa

E/Mo

My old build. The drops there are pretty bad compared to other places.
But if you like me and want to make a w/every class this is the place for exp. Throw on the 3x exp scroll and get a skill point ever 2-3 runs (6-11 minutes per skill point)

W/E
Gladiator stance
Bonetti
armor of earth
crystal wave
aftershock
healing sig
sprint
cyclone axe or to the limit if using sword

16 tactic
12 earth
rest in strength for sprint

.killjoy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/Me

oh yes 55 monks own this very well!!


www.killjoy.bhxhost.com/killjoy my 55 builds for troll slaying..!

its odd to get some good golds there tho..

http://killjoy.bhxhost.com/GuildWARS/gw113.JPG 55 at work with trolls

Woutsie

Woutsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Belgium

Nice guide!
I have only got 1 gold drop in like 15 runs tho..

WolflordUlrik

WolflordUlrik

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

League of Enders

W/N

experience*

berko

berko

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

N/Me

Here's the build I use

Gladiator's Defense
Bonetti's Defense
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Distracting Blow (Mostly for the Ranger boss)
Sprint
Healing Sig
Dolyak Sig

This works great for me as I'm almost never interrupted (unless Im not paying attention) and the trolls go down pretty fast.
my attributes are
Strength 11 (10+1)
Tactics 15 (11+3+1)
Sword 11 (10+1)

Rilder

Rilder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mystic Shadow Soldiers (MSS)

R/

Heres my sword build that i use to farm these beasts:

Deadly Riposte
Watch Yourself
Bonetties Defence
Defensive Stance
Gladiators defense {Elite}
Healing Breeze
Mending
Vigourus Spirit

Attributes
Sword:12 (no rune)
Tactics: 12 (11+1)
Strength 4 (2+2)
Healing 8

Stragedy: As soon as you get out of droks cast mending then run up to the cave or whatever, duh ^_^ then cast Vig Spirit right before battle, throw on glads too, and even cast breeze if you want then throw riposte, the goal of this build is just to stay alive to throw on Glads again so you can throw riposte and rethrow your enchants, defensive stance is an emergiancy stance when you cant throw bonetties... its not fast but it works

Remember, dont feed the trolls, farm them

phosho

phosho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

HP

W/Mo

yea i agree, live vicarously is really helpful. holy veil is needed. as long as you have sprint

Special K

Special K

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Severe Cranial Damage

W/Mo

I use this build

W/Mo

Atts:
Axe Mastery: 9
Smiting Prayers: 11
Healing Prayers: 8
Strength: 10

Weapons:

Sundering Cleaver of Enchanting
Slashing Damage 6-28 (req. 9 Axe Mastery)
Damage +15% (while health is above 50%)
Enchantments Last 20% Longer
Armor Penetration +10% (Chance: 10%)

Thorgall's Shield
Armor: 16 (req. 9 Strength)
Received Damage -2 (while enchanted)
Reduces Weakness duration on you by 20%

My Skills:

Cyclone Axe
Bonetti's Defense
Healing Breeze
Shield Of Judgement
Dolyak Signet
Vigirous Spirit
Live Vicariously
Mending

While you may not recieve as many gold as farming griffons, the chests are seen here more often than in the desert and usually contain better items. Also raven staffs give an enormous amount of wood when salvaged. Usually get around 1000 wood every 2 hours. So that's about 10k every two hours selling wood, plus whatever other drops you may recieve.

In any case, Shield of Judgement is 10 times better than Glad's Defense. It lasts longer whilch means you dont have to constantly keep up with it. And it does more damage. Using a strength shield allows you to cranks up the dolyak, which you normally can't do if you're using a bunch of tactics. w00t

Me NoFat

Me NoFat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

USA

Crimson Explorers Worldwide {CrEw}; Lifetime graduate of [LBS]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Special K
Usually get around 1000 wood every 2 hours. So that's about 10k every two hours selling wood, plus whatever other drops you may recieve. Are you nuts? Selling wood

Turn that stuff into parchment and sell the parchment. Unless I am missing something this is still more profit than dumping wood.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

hmm since everyone likes , heres 2 builds sword and axe

yep w/mo ...again hehe

sword

use a furious sword of defence

0 sword
12 strength (+3)
16 tactics (+4)
9 healing

flurry
riposte
gladiators defence
doylak sigit
vigerous spirit
live vicously
balthzars spirit
sprint

very simular to my hydra build , works a treat

axe

use a vampiric axe of defence
15 axe (+4)
13 tactics (+3)
10 healing

cyclone axe
bonneti's defence
watchyourself
gladiators defence
vigerous spirit
live vicously
mending
sprint

the exact ones i use

Guillaume De Sonoma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

aFk

Me/Rt

I tried out Don't Feel No Pain's Build for axe and it worked like a charm

Edit: and killing only the trolls in the cave I went from 33 to 55% of my next level without a scroll. Killing stuff in the cave 58% (I had to kill some trolls blocking my path) to 18% on the next skill point. All that with a scroll of slayers insight

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

acauly i missed something on my build

use a vampric axe and mending insted of balthzars spirit

Special K

Special K

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Severe Cranial Damage

W/Mo

I still prefer SOJ :P

While parchment is worth more money, there are lots of parchment sellers and not many wood sellers, so i can take 4000 wood into forge and sell it all with five minutes for 10 each. Parchment takes forever to sell and noone wants more than 200, while parchment sellers will buy thousands of wood in bulk. Less money, but takes less time= more time to farm.

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

CA

Scythes of Chaos [SoC], [PNOY] alliance guild forums: http://socguild.cjb.net

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toll Booth Willie
My old build. The drops there are pretty bad compared to other places.
But if you like me and want to make a w/every class this is the place for exp. Throw on the 3x exp scroll and get a skill point ever 2-3 runs (6-11 minutes per skill point)

W/E
Gladiator stance
Bonetti
armor of earth
crystal wave
aftershock
healing sig
sprint
cyclone axe or to the limit if using sword

16 tactic
12 earth
rest in strength for sprint
Ok I dont' get the attribute points lay out.......... Is it your main damage is in crystal wave and aftershock? If so, why not take out crystal wave and put in whirlwind to combo in with aftershock, and then a zealous haft on ur axe (cyclone axe for energy)


OH NOW I GET IT! Points in strength so you'll be penetrating the armor and there's your weapon damage! Sry noob warrior over here im more of an elementalist and ranger.........But I wonder about the changes I suggested.....Did they help?

Amsterdam

Amsterdam

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Wisconsin

dth

My new build :

Healing Breeze
Glads Defense
Bonetti's Defense
Cyclone Axe
Executioners Strike
Sprint
Live Vicariously
Mending

You won't die... Even if you get interupted you can keep your defenses up and breeze when you get low.

Lord Osi

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Michigan

W/Mo

Warrior/Monk
*Attributes
-8 Healing
-11+ Axe Mastery
-12 Tactics
-8 Strength
*Skills
-Bonettti's Defence
-Gladz Defence
-Doylak Signet (use all 3 of these for defence ^)
-Cyclone Axe
-Vig spirit
-(forgot but it does same thing as vig spirit but its an enchantment, check healing)
-Mending
-Balthazars Spirit

Awesome for me, I usually farm 1k+ average solo if you kill all the trolls + gold items every now and then.
So far I have gotten 1 silver, 1 black, and a half of dozen other dyes, maybe 10 gold items? Its good place for only doing it for a few days.

linuxnacrot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

i got a better build and it goes liek this:

attributes:
healing prayers-10
smiting prayers-10
tactics-11

take note that these are the minimum requirements, feel free to add mroe to misting and tactics.

skills:
cyclone axe
bonetti's defense
vigorous spirit
glad's def
symbol of wrath
sprint
balzathars spirit
live vicariously

all you have to do is go to talus chute through droknars, put on balthazars spirit, wait to have at least 20 energy then cast live vicariously. use sprint to get past avicaras and get to cave faster; balthazars spirit should ahve recharged about 4 energy 'cause of the avicara fierces' arrows. when u get to trolls use glad's def and then vigorous spirit. use cyclone axe to charge ur adrenaline, and when glads is about to run out use bonetti's. when cyclone axe is about half way recharged cast symbol of wrath, and use cyclone axe as fast as u can to gain health and charge up bonnettis so u cna sue it right away. becaue of the patch about half of the trols should run away, dont worry the come back liek 1 second later. when they get back use cyclone axe and bonnettis if glads def hasn't recharged, if it is then use it. by the time u've done all of this vigorous spirit should be almost done so cast it while you still have galds def on you. now all you ahve to do is repeat this process about 2 more times. it takes a few tries to get used to it and get the timing right, so dont try it once and leave if u dont get it right away.

i would also recomend using an axe of enchantment so your vigorous spirit lasts longer.another that u should watch out for is interupts, once in a few runs the trolls will interupt your cyclone axe, to stay alive just keep spamming bonettis defense and glad's defense(remeber you can only have once stance one you at a time so dont use them together)

Rummy Dummy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kool Momz

R/N

i beleive lamdathegreat(? i think it was him, if not to whom ever made this 1) had an awesome build which i currently use for trolls. it goes:

axe W/r
Glads armor preferred, i think u might be able to use others,
12 axe
11 tac
10 str
8wild

Apply poison
serpents quickness
doylak signet
gladiator's defenses
cyclone axe
bonettis defenses
watch yourself
sprint

i get all the aggro of the trolls then cast serpents quickness -> doylak Sig -> Glads defenses -> apply poison -> cyclone axe -> bonettis def, then keep switching off cyclone axe and bonettis def while adding watch yourself and doylak sig in the mix until glads def recharges. once it does recharge, re apply poison, and cyclone axe, watch yourself cyclone axe, bon def.then kill off the other alive, etc. this build owns, i can do 1 run in about 3-5minutes.
i also prefer to have glads armor for the energy, 2 dif axes (1 vamp, 1 15%in a stance with armor upgrade), and the +45hp - 2 dmg stance crimson carapece shield from that 1 collector. i think u guys should use this for gettin skill points bcuz w/ scroll u get 1 in like 8 minutes, along with selling to get a plat to buy skills, etc. props to whomever i found this build on.

Two April Mornings

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
ive always looked on trolls as the easier versions of griffons with less drops ^^, good guide though!

drop breeze for sprint and holy viel for live vicausly ditto

i do the same run except i go up and kill the giants, followed by a run into teh grawls for runes.

Cecil Barracks

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Stars of Destiny

R/Mo

What wields better drops, Trolls or Ettins?

sh4ft3d

sh4ft3d

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...

Frank Ought To Monk [FotM]

W/

Ettins drop runes.
Trolls drop everything else.

Talon Berethin

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Crusaders

R/E

I have found that griffs drop more gold and more purple/gold items, but at the same time they are fairly crappy when I.D.ed. Trolls drop raven staffs and staffs=wood. Ettins drop runes, but we all know how hard it is to get that coveted Superior anything. If you need a quick 1k boost for some purpose farm trolls for 2-3 runs and sell the wood. If you have more time and want the chance to get a good mod go for grifs.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

we having fun yet

Adrenus

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

SoD

Mo/

^^

what do u use for energy regen?

Adrenus

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

SoD

Mo/

oh realized u have a (*zealous*)
sword when i noticed that u only have 1 enchant drain up

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

yep yep , gah trolls realy are not worth the runs no more

daraaksii

daraaksii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

hm
i have a build with only 5 skills..

Cyclo
Bonetti
Vigorous
Gladiators
live vicorously

thats all
it works on griff farm too

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

it acualy works without vigerous spirit hehe , yeah well if u got 8 skills slots there is nothing wrong with filling emm

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
we having fun yet
Might want to edit out your guildies' name.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

woops ...

BakedMonkey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/

this is the build i use, very good energy management even when NOT in bonnetis =p

Tatics: 10+1+1 (Helm and Rune)
Axe Mastery:11
Healing Prayers: 9
Pump rest in Smiting and Strength.

Equipment:
Full Gladiators Armor
-Major/Sup Vigor and Absorb
-Grognars Defender or the Crimson Carapace Shield.
-Axe (Duh) I personally use a Razorstone.

Cyclone Axe
Gladiators Defence
Bonneti's Defence
Sprint
Healing Signet (Not Really Needed)
Healing Breeze
Bathazar's Spirit
Live Vicariously

How to Use:
1) Go to Talus Chute and cast both enchants.
2) Run towards the cave, if there are avicara and trolls wondering about, no worries, sprint past them, they dont follow much.
3) Barge in the cave and aggro a bunch of trolls.
4) Slap on Gladiators Defence.
5) While Glad's is still on, cyclone as much as you can.
6) When Glad's runs out, slap on Bonnetis and wait for cyclone to recharge.
7) Keep spamming Cyclone and Bonnetis until Glads is recharged.
8) Put glads on, use healing breeze if needed at THIS TIME ONLY and spam cyclone.
9) Repeat until they are all dead.

This works real great and i only died twice when i was body blocked while running to the troll caves.

Live Vicariously would heal you for a BUNCH, you will see tons of blue +11's whenever you cyclone, so there isnt really a way how you can die. Bathazar's Spirit gives you energy whenever your in gladiators.

Enjoy

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Tip: if you are using breeze , do not do cyclone axe sriaght after , wait a second then do so , breeze can trigger all the trolls to attempt disrupting chop, they are too slow to hit your breeze but will accidently hit cyclone axe , its happened to me too many times.

Sk23Von

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Michigan

W/E

Battle Torn's build is magnificient for this.

Cyclone Axe
Bonettis Defense
Gladiators Defense
Sprint
Healing Breeze
Live Vicariously
Balthazaar's Spirit
Mending

Just cast Mending and balths spirit right out of the gate. Run into the group of avicara and watch Dual shot + ignite arrows give you 4 energy per hit. When your full on energy, sprint out, and up the hill into the cave.

I prefer to run PAST the big group, and running to the warrior bosses group (Krogg Shmush) and then bringing him back down to the bg group. This gives you a big guy with tons of HP. Just drag him into the big group, hit Glads Defense, then Live VIariously, and then throw out the cyclone. IMMEDIATELY throwdown BOnnetis Defense, and watch your energy max out. Just stay targeting Krogg and cylcone when it comes back up. When glads Defense comes bacl online, cyclone then hit it. Dont hit bonnetis until Glads is blinking to go out, as you dont want to waste the damage output.

When you get used to this, drop the uneeded Healing Breeze for an adrenaline attack to speed up killing the boss.

Dont bother with the ranger boss.

tuperwho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tenacious Knights of Doom [TKD]

Yet again I feel it's my roll to point out that war's don't have all the fun. I've been teaching a good number of people how to solo trap this lately. Not difficult at all. I use:

beast 7
exp. 13
wild. 15

4 traps
Serpent's quickness
troll ungent
storm chaser
Edge of extinction

Can anyone provide more details on salvaging wood? I usually just ID and sell everthing (staves are like 70-80 gold a pop). Does salvaging wood beat this? What are the details of the parchment process, and does it beat those numbers?

BakedMonkey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
Tip: if you are using breeze , do not do cyclone axe sriaght after , wait a second then do so , breeze can trigger all the trolls to attempt disrupting chop, they are too slow to hit your breeze but will accidently hit cyclone axe , its happened to me too many times. yea thats what i do =p or you can also, glads, cyclone, breeze, by the time cyclone recharges, they would of finished spamming disrupting.

and how do u solo trap the trolls? set traps then pull? sometimes they spawn near the entrance of the cave =/ and mantra of resolve would drain your energy so fast in this case..