Level 1 in Ring of Fire! Is this really possible?

Prosthetic

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I was going to put this in the level 1 in droks thread, but thats closed now.
Some months back I was in Ring of Fire, trying to get a group (no monks as usual), when along comes a level 1 monk. I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it with my own eyes, but here are some screenshots anyway.





He was saying something about getting run to THK, and doing that with 1 henchless. Not sure how that would stop him getting exp from the mission though...

If this is inappropriate after the closure of the previous thread, feel free to close/move the thread.

Jetdoc

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I sure hope that isn't photoshopped. To me, it's basically impossible to get run on Thunderhead Keep without getting the experience from them defending the king. A level 1 getting experience for having his party members kill level 20 mursaat would level him up automatically, even without the 1,000 XP from completing the mission.

viper008

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

exaclty what I think also he would have lvled up for sure for being a lvl 1

LifeInfusion

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Unless you die in the beginning of THK there really isn't much you can do to stay level one. Not to mention in presear I think you have to do a couple of quests that add up to roughly 50% of level one meaning extremely low tolerance for exp once you hit THK.

Don't have any idea how that could happen.

eternal_paladin

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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you cant, i THINK the total required missions adds to at least lvl 2.

Shadowfox1125

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Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_paladin
you cant, i THINK the total required missions adds to at least lvl 2.
Well, how many required missions are there?
Sanctum Cay
THK
for starters..

Jetdoc

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
Well, how many required missions are there?
Sanctum Cay
THK
for starters..
I don't think you need to be ascended to go to the Ring of Fire.

So, all you need is to be run from Beacon's Perch to Droknar's to Thunderhead Keep.

Complete Thunderhead Keep and you're at Ring of Fire.

So, THK is really the only one that you can't avoid getting experience for. Can anyone answer the question - do you still get experience after you die in a mission from your party members killing the monsters? I though the answer was "yes" (I'm 100% sure that you get the completing the mission experience).

Indian

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
Well, how many required missions are there?
Sanctum Cay
THK
for starters..
sanctum cay isnt required only THK is

knoll

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
Well, how many required missions are there?
Sanctum Cay
THK
for starters..
Dont have to do sactum cay, you can get run from beacons to droks to THK,

You also can just stay behin in THK and not get any exp, as long as your not need anybody argo circle, but you would the 1k exp at end of mission.

I think you have to do like 2 quest in pre then fight the ranger boss but if he did that with other people, no henchies, and just stayed behind it could be done, but the only hard part would be the pvp arena at the end of pre, making sure you dont get exp.

It is possible but really hard to do...


LOL all beat me to it....

sno

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I think they nerfed this... You used to be able to get through pre doing less quests, but now the total ammount of required quests to go to searing is like 150xp away from lvl 2. assuming you died at the start of the fight and didn't get any experience when you seared, you'd still get 1k experience from THK, making you lvl 2.

so, it WAS possible, but not anymore, as far as i know.

Praetor Zeratul

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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pretty sad to watch ppl pay eachother game money to beat the game for them...too bad we cant prevent running any further then what we allready have.

Rilder

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Praetor Zeratul
pretty sad to watch ppl pay eachother game money to beat the game for them...too bad we cant prevent running any further then what we allready have.
yea seriously, running should be considered an exploit and those who run or get ran should be Banned

Kaguya

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Praetor Zeratul
pretty sad to watch ppl pay eachother game money to beat the game for them...too bad we cant prevent running any further then what we allready have.
Yeah, after completing the game ten times people still should follow the original mission/quests path and not get ran around!!1


...What?

sixdartbart

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rilder
yea seriously, running should be considered an exploit and those who run or get ran should be Banned
Do you really think the path to droks is there purely by accident or just maybe put there for the very purpose of people being able to be ran through so they won't have to play there 4th or 7th character through the game if they choose not to

Anet has stated very clearly that the entire path there was just for that purpose.
If you don't choose to be ran somewhere don't do it but why the hell do you think you should tell other people what the can or can't do when it is an intentional part of the game

Prosthetic

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It's not photoshopped, although as I said, if i hadn't seen it with my own eyes I wouldn't have thought it possible, and would have thought the same thing. Anyway, he made it sound like he somehow glitched THK to not give him the xp for finishing the mission.

Jiao Yang

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Join Date: Dec 2005

in pre sear if u get someone to do the quests for u and stay away from the combat u can get much less xp than what you would normally.

Also... if u just stay back at the start of THK u still get xp from the Ice golems and stone summit at the start

Jiao

Rilder

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaguya
Yeah, after completing the game ten times people still should follow the original mission/quests path and not get ran around!!1


...What?

Why not?I do this, all my charactos have never been ran to droknors, if you dont want to play through the game make a pvp char, sure i dont do every quest but i try.

fallot

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rilder

Why not?I do this, all my charactos have never been ran to droknors, if you dont want to play through the game make a pvp char, sure i dont do every quest but i try.
Thats exactly why I support running, so that you can make a viable PvP character in the shortest amount of time. Playing through the campaign once, maybe twice, is bearable (even fun). But after that the only reason I would play is for unlocks. Being run to locations speeds that up a lot. Why would ANet want me to go through the same hassle over and over again ?

Kaguya

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rilder
Why not?I do this, all my charactos have never been ran to droknors, if you dont want to play through the game make a pvp char, sure i dont do every quest but i try.
My sarcastic post tried to hit you, but obviously missed.

Numa Pompilius

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I agree with Rilder.

Anyway, back to the original question. AFAI can remember you can't get to ring of fire with less than 1600 EXP. Anyone know what EXP you need for level 2?

Cherno

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Pretty easy actually. You can go to post searing very quickly without taking much xp. Get run to Beacons - Droks - THK.

Stay back at the beginning of the mission. If you are non participatory and outside the agro you won't gain any xp.

Cutscene comes, run far away out of danger, same thing. Get XP from mission. You are now in Emberlight as a level 1. Final Blow to RoF. Can still be done.

Sad? a guildie did it because they were bored and wanted to have a little fun.

spastische specht

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it seems to me that there is no freeking way to get a freeking level 1 char in the ring of fire :S if you ask me they're cheating or something because this is just unbelievible :S

Poison Ivy

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I fail to see the fun in that :S

Cherno

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When some people have gone through the game numerous times and want to try something different, they come up with all sorts of things to do. Is it really "fun" to have a level 20 in presearing?

It is just for a sense of personal accomplishment.

The real hard part was finding a group that would go with us on THK knowing that we were going to be 1 person short from the beginning.

Former Ruling

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Message from Friend: 100exp
War preparations: 250 exp
A [class]'s test: 500 exp
Run to THK: 0 exp
THK: 1000exp

=1,850 exp, level 2=2,000exp

It WOULD be doable without a secondary. But not now. The secondary quests give 250exp- putting you at 2,100exp.

That player has been there awhile.

Star Gazer

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I was actually level 1 when I got a run to Citadel. I had roughly 1 level and 72%...it is possible to do it. i spent a total of 6 minutes im presear before going. if you had a primary other than a monk, you would get even less exp...considering the monk quest is the only quest that will not give you exp. I do believe this to be true, but it must have cost him a fortune! (or some nice guildmates

Lex Talionis

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I once saw a level 1 w/mo in ring of fire dancing. It is possible to get there, but whats the point aside from showing off? Makes me laugh that people pay others in order to beat the game. Pure amusement

Former Ruling

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These people got there before the presearing quest line got changed.

Had to have.
it is IMPOSSIBLE to get there without some sort of glitch or soemthing now.

I listed the exp you need to get there. You need 2.1k, and its only 2k til lvl2.

Unless the gltich of skipping the mission exp in THK is true.

max gladius

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I personaly took a lvl 1 to lions arch, to hang out in the HOH arena, and also have him down to Draknors.... am working on getting him to ring of fire, there is going to be no way to avoid the 1k xp from quest though.... My guild tried this with another charicter and you will get the 1k from quest for THK even if he dies at start.

He is lvl 1 and 55%, mes/nec... i started with mes, got a few skills outside in presearing... then had someone run me down to do necro quest real fast... that is all i did on this charicter... he has no res signet or anything....

blood raven

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you have to be lvl2 to get into the academy at presear...
thats it.

Kai Nui

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I never get 'run' places because I aim to get all the missions and skills reward quests. I only have other PVE characters for unlocking skills. And if I don't get that 1 skill point and free 2 skills from quests, then the character is useless to me. No need to run, because I'm already going all the way across the freakin map anyway, even though it's a pain.

Cherno

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Quote:
Originally Posted by blood raven
you have to be lvl2 to get into the academy at presear...
thats it.
That's absolutely not true.

You also don't have to do Message from a Friend in presear.

I recently made a character on my second account to act as guild storage and was in presear all of 5 mins before going to post. You don't even need a secondary profession.

boxterduke

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rilder
yea seriously, running should be considered an exploit and those who run or get ran should be Banned
That is not practical, now I never ran anybody anywhere for money. Just guildies here and there.

But I have 2 accounts and 2 computers, why should I get banned for running my other characters on the other account around.

Your statement does not make sense.

Star Gazer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rilder
yea seriously, running should be considered an exploit and those who run or get ran should be Banned
Oh really? So if this statement is true, which it is COMPLETELY not, its a matter of opinion, why hasn't Anet closed the door to lornar's pass from beacons? Its that simple. They did it in Amnoon and Denravi for their PVP areas. And how does running affect you? That your a complete idiot, and went through the unnecessary paths to get there? If you want to spend months creating a new char, thats fine with me. But do NOT call running an exploit since it is just your opinion. When I create a new char, I want to level up fast. Why should I be forced to play the way you like to play it? Next time, buy a head of lettuce, replace it with that thing that you think is your brain, and actually have words of intelligence come out of your mouth.

Rilder

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Star Gazer
Oh really? So if this statement is true, which it is COMPLETELY not, its a matter of opinion, why hasn't Anet closed the door to lornar's pass from beacons? Its that simple. They did it in Amnoon and Denravi for their PVP areas. And how does running affect you? That your a complete idiot, and went through the unnecessary paths to get there? If you want to spend months creating a new char, thats fine with me. But do NOT call running an exploit since it is just your opinion. When I create a new char, I want to level up fast. Why should I be forced to play the way you like to play it? Next time, buy a head of lettuce, replace it with that thing that you think is your brain, and actually have words of intelligence come out of your mouth.
Look i'm saying its a plague... my ele is sitting in Augury rock because everybody decided that running is the only way to play THERE ARE ABSOULUTLY NO GROUPS FORMING TO FIGHT ANYWERE.

I wouldnt be so against running if it was rare but it isnt EVERYBODY GETS RAN EVERYWERE... its impossible to get past beacons without hencies, imposible to get past Augury without hencies now... its impossible to do any quests in lions arch without hencies... You now have to spend a good 50k i bet to get anywere... oh and not the mention that you have a better chance of winning the lottery then getting groups in the magumas. Hell if i ever get a group to fight to one of the acension missions i'm going out to buy a lottery ticket cause i know i'm gonna win... my gods i cant even play normaly now... i have to get ran to be anywere... when my main char Rilder the Hunter came through the Game. He had no problem getting groups. there was like 20 groups in a district needing people for there group in every single mission area.. and outpost! now thers 20 non running groups i bet in the entire game! Its like 50 runners, 30 runnies. and 5 people wanting to play the right way and get some exp by fighting... but now its " oh who cares i'l just buy exp" Runners are ruining the game for me... Running should be like if your absoulutly stuck at a mision place you should be able to fight to the next one if you absoulutly have to, Not as it is now were you can skip from beginning game to end game without even having a weapon.

its getting to the point were runners are gonna end up running each other.

Cherno

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Sorry but that's just not true. Sure there are people that are getting run, but how can you claim to know all their histories and why they are getting run?

I can always find people to do missions in the LA area. It is probably less likely to find people doing quests and such in the Augury area, that's true. It is much easier to just get run to each town and then battle through the quests and missions. I just don't want to get lost in the desert area. There aren't quests that really guide you as well as in earlier parts of the game.

I don't know what you are doing wrong, but I never have problems getting groups for Maguuma and Ascension missions. Getting the exact party makeup may be a different story, but usually just filling one or two slots with henchies if necessary.

I fought through the full grind on my first character all the way. Then after that, I only get run two places, Beacon's to Droks and the Desert Tour. Then I go back and fight all the other missions and do all the quests.

I make those runs for convenience of not having to wait to get upgraded armor and ease of fighting through the desert.

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This has turned into a debate about running, and not about the actual question presented.
If you want to debate about running, search for a actual running debate.

Because this thread is the same as the one mentioned above, I'm going to have to smite it .

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