A necros rare build

VampiricuS

VampiricuS

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/Mo

Closed for several reasons, foremost that this thread's nebulous focus has opened it up to a number of overly critical posts.

most I found this Deadly Cesta on a tombs run in a chest last week and I told a few friends. Well news of my find got around. Today I was offered 400K for it, last night 50 ectos and this morning, 150K. Im telling you this is the fastest ive ever been able to raise minions. when i go on runs, i bring horror, fiends AND Minions. I went outside droks and grabbed the compliment to what I think is the perfect combo thanks to a friend pointing it out. Im told its a rare find and after making a few runs, you know why. I have 16 Death, and using bloodstained boots which are suppose to give me 25% on top of this rate and the rest of my armor is from grotto. (im working on getting fissure).

Anyway, here is a screen .



if ya feel like goin on runs with me, just send me a msg and ill be happy to join. life is good for this MM

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Very very nice Deadly Cesta.

Bloodstained Boots don't work, btw.

Schrale Kerel NL

Schrale Kerel NL

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

the Netherlands

Romance Of Three Kingdoms [RoTK]

E/

its only 6/7 % higher then morgriffs scepter

bye

pagansaint

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Which means it works 6/7% of the time MORE than Morgriff's....

kazz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Guildwars Nomads [Daii]

Mo/Me

Nice find.

And also, I belive in one of the recent patches they did fix the bloodstained boots.

OMFGimCUTE

OMFGimCUTE

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

a box

I hop around

W/D

ooh i have somthing like that, i didnt know it was worth that much.

VampiricuS

VampiricuS

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/Mo

i cant tell if the boots make that much of a difference. when i changed them it actually seemed slower. hard to tell though. will have to try with different set.

and yes, its much better than Morgriffs because I used one in comparison. At times it seems I merely point and up comes a minion.

WeepingRanger

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

DoD

R/W

that sucks I sold mine to merchant just the other day

Undead Preacher

Undead Preacher

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Scribes of Cantha (USoC)

N/

very nice wand...

flexibility

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore

The Gathering Of Souls o_0

E/W

I thought there's a collector wand like this... 20/20 somemore... isn't there?

morphium

morphium

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Random Arenas int dis 1

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Rofl.. 400k. Thats bullshit.

Its maybe worth 30k, not more.

MasterThrawn

MasterThrawn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Gryffindor

Very cool. Where'd you get that Grim Cresta??

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

wait...

where's the build? i thought this was the build forums and not the "ooh look at my pretty weapon" forums.

kdhoney44

kdhoney44

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Currently vacationing in reality....

Sith Jedi [SJ]

Wow nice find, wish I could find one of those for my MM

Undead Preacher

Undead Preacher

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Scribes of Cantha (USoC)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by striderkaaru
wait...

where's the build? i thought this was the build forums and not the "ooh look at my pretty weapon" forums. LMFAO, very funny and very true

its a nice wand but there is a screen shot section for this as well as a sell thread if u want a REAL PC on the item.... its nice... but not close to the range of 400k

Undead Preacher

Undead Preacher

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Scribes of Cantha (USoC)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by flexibility
I thought there's a collector wand like this... 20/20 somemore... isn't there? the collecters wand isn't 20/20.... it only has 20% recharge

ereptor

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Cryptographers

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I assume the speed at which you pump these minions out is the awesome part you are talking about which would stem from the 20% faster casting rate on the offhand and the 17% on thewand. Since you are talking about bringing all three minion spell, making the recharge time faster would not be an issue.
With this in mind the bortak set:

Bortak's Bone Claw
Cold damage: 11-22 (req. 9 Death Magic)
Energy +3 (while Health is above 50%)
Improves Casting speed using Death Magic skills (Chance 20%)

Bortak's Bone Cesta
Energy +12 (req. 9 Death Magic)
Death Magic +1 (20% chance while using skills)
Improves Casting speed using Death Magic skills (Chance 20%)

This setup would give you the faster cast rate more often than your current setup and would also give you the level 19 minions occasionally.

Undead Preacher

Undead Preacher

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Scribes of Cantha (USoC)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ereptor
I assume the speed at which you pump these minions out is the awesome part you are talking about which would stem from the 20% faster casting rate on the offhand and the 17% on thewand. Since you are talking about bringing all three minion spell, making the recharge time faster would not be an issue.
With this in mind the bortak set:

Bortak's Bone Claw
Cold damage: 11-22 (req. 9 Death Magic)
Energy +3 (while Health is above 50%)
Improves Casting speed using Death Magic skills (Chance 20%)

Bortak's Bone Cesta
Energy +12 (req. 9 Death Magic)
Death Magic +1 (20% chance while using skills)
Improves Casting speed using Death Magic skills (Chance 20%)

This setup would give you the faster cast rate more often than your current setup and would also give you the level 19 minions occasionally. AGREED^ for MM bortaks is much better than ur current setup... its nice but far from the best... even a gold death wand with energy +5^50% and a recharge or fast casting mod would be better

We really need to STOP POSTING in this thread.... this section is for builds

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schrale Kerel NL
its only 6/7 % higher then morgriffs scepter

bye But in fact, the mods are 60% and 70% better (for death skills) than the scepter, meaning (considering the cesta alone) the fast casting and recharge would trigger 60% and 70% more often (then they would on the scepter).

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Also, in regards to Bortak's equipment, I think it's all a matter of preference. The Bortak setup has only 36% chance to trigger some form of fast casting. (it is not 40% for the record)

This guy's setup has 33% chance to trigger fast casting.

Conclusion: The Bortak's setup would only trigger fast casting 9% more often.

(If you don't believe me, I can explain it mathematically, but please don't ask unless you understand some basic probability and algebra)

capblueberry

capblueberry

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Lexington, SC

Grenths Mercenaries[DEAD]

i need to get that for my necro MM

Undead Preacher

Undead Preacher

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Scribes of Cantha (USoC)

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THIS IS NOT A WEAPON DISCUSSION THREAD its suppose to be a build forum, plz let this thread DIE

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

One could argue that the "build" is hidden in his pic - a "secret build" perhaps, or that the build revoles around the weapons he posted.

At any rate, Undead Preacher, you need to get a new keyboard with a working shift key, or at least get the one you're using replaced. Your general excessive use of caps, bold, underlines, exclamation points and italics takes the emphais away from important points.

As for letting this thread die, either wait for a mod to close it (if it should be closed) or message one requesting it. Posting "plz let this thread DIE" is just bumping it and asking for a reply - best not to say anything at all

acidic artist

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Me

its ALWAYS the people that are jealous that bash other peoples things because they dont have them. nice weapon

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kazz
And also, I belive in one of the recent patches they did fix the bloodstained boots.
They changed the description only. The boots don't work, still!


Quote: Originally Posted by Undead Preacher
AGREED^ for MM bortaks is much better than ur current setup... its nice but far from the best... even a gold death wand with energy +5^50% and a recharge or fast casting mod would be better WHAT?!? You'd trade 16% chance of fast recharge for 3 energy conditionally? That's crazy. His wand is better than Bortak's Bone Claw.

Undead Preacher

Undead Preacher

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Scribes of Cantha (USoC)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
One could argue that the "build" is hidden in his pic - a "secret build" perhaps, or that the build revoles around the weapons he posted.

At any rate, Undead Preacher, you need to get a new keyboard with a working shift key, or at least get the one you're using replaced. Your general excessive use of caps, bold, underlines, exclamation points and italics takes the emphais away from important points.

As for letting this thread die, either wait for a mod to close it (if it should be closed) or message one requesting it. Posting "plz let this thread DIE" is just bumping it and asking for a reply - best not to say anything at all this is a build thread not a weapon thread, i'll use whatever caps or exclamations i want.... this is the wrong place for this thread... no build is included, if he put down his skills at least it might be a little better, i could make 10 post on my weapon collections.... all of which are better than this..

and as for this being better than bortaks, thats your opinion.....

The OP of this Thread does have a nice weapon.... "IF" he's going to use fast casting and skill recharge to his advantage.... seeing he brings 3 minion skills... the recharge mods are a waste.... maybe if he was raising strictly 1 type, like just horrors.... but thats 3 skills spots wasted on his skill bar... if he wanted to use his build and weapons to their FULL potential, the max would be the 2, fiends and horrors....

If you read my post earlier I posted it was a very nice wand... however, 400k is a little outrageous...

and this isn't a screenshot forum, there is a special place for threads like this.. otherwise I would post some weapons that would make u cream... and my armor collection.... which consist of ALL 15k armors, and almost full fissure.. still working on that!

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by holden
if you can post your ass off about solo builds in uw then what's wrong with a guy talking about a good find. Actually, if I'm not mistaken he just posts builds that people like KCP came up with, or builds that are common knowledge, such as the SS/SV necro.

I think it's great to have easily accessable threads, and the best way to do that is through relevant titles. Undead has certainly done that. He's also come up with some builds on his own if I'm not mistaken, but the bigger threads are just conglomerates of what others have discovered.

And undead, don't think that you have anything that'll make us cream Unless its a req 7 15^50 max crystalline/dwarven, or something of that sort

Undead Preacher

Undead Preacher

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Scribes of Cantha (USoC)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
Actually, if I'm not mistaken he just posts builds that people like KCP came up with, or builds that are common knowledge, such as the SS/SV necro.

I think it's great to have easily accessable threads, and the best way to do that is through relevant titles. Undead has certainly done that. He's also come up with some builds on his own if I'm not mistaken, but the bigger threads are just conglomerates of what others have discovered.

And undead, don't think that you have anything that'll make us cream Unless its a req 7 15^50 max crystalline/dwarven, or something of that sort Really... I've never seen an echo ss/sv build based on curses and inspiration... and i've never seen one based on curses and domination.... The echo ss/sv build might be common.... but my versions are not

The invinci build your talking about..... I give KCP credit about 42 times in that thread.... I was getting all sorts of in-game questions about it and there were always a ton of questions posted on here about it.... so i made a thread for it, and it appears to be as successful as my ss/sv thread....

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

Christ almighty. That's a beaut of a cesta.

VampiricuS

VampiricuS

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/Mo

Fine: my build is

Death:16
Soul: 10
Healing: 9

as far as the 400 K goes, I know its overkill but the guy really wanted it. my intent was not to just toss a screenshot here and brag, the weapon combo is part of my build so, i dont see the complaint. This thread is not waisted imo because im getting feedback of other weapons and offhands in comparison, so i want to say thanks for the tips.

cheers

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

N/

If it was a 20/20 max rare curse wand i'd throw a 250 stack of shards or ectos at it

Still it's a nice wand. I appreciate rares more then these greens that f'd up the whole game. But that's my opinion.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by VampiricuS
my intent was not to just toss a screenshot here and brag, the weapon combo is part of my build so, i dont see the complaint. This thread is not waisted imo because im getting feedback of other weapons and offhands in comparison, so i want to say thanks for the tips. @VampiricuS: You might want to read this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=118754

VampiricuS

VampiricuS

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
@VampiricuS: You might want to read this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=118754 thanks man