You don't really want to ascend below level 15, do you?

yomom1919

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

I believe i have a valid argument in saying that its pointless to ascend below lvl 15, because i myself have ascended at lvl 12 (not that it means anything its quite easy). *note: this doesnt count the bonus, which gives u 100k xp, also its quite impossible to get the bonus under level 15 anyway*

Say your lvl 10 when you ascend, and you become level 15 or 16 or so. Congratulations, youve just wasted a whole ascension for the simple reason that its MUCH HARDER to get from lvl 15-20 then it is from 10-15. People that ascend at low levels are faced with the problem that now they need to get to lvl 20, which can take some time since your not gettin in any dragon's lair parties at lvl 18 or below. power lvling at lvl 15+ also costs about 2k+ a level. if you have money to spare thats great, but if you do a few quests or do the jungle quests you can get from lvl 10-15 in no time. Not to mention that its only about 1k for 10-15. Compare getting from lvl 10-15 or so as oppose to 17-20. People at lvl 17+ are still doing the ascension missions, and thats your best bet for xp, but im not talking about 1 mission. 5 thirsty rivers wont level you that far, but its probably the best choice considering the boss xp and so. Also its kindof annoying to do low lvl missions like the jungle just to level up, in my oppinion.
However, if they ascended at a low level theve probably had the money to spare for mission runs so go right ahead and waste ur money. After all, time is money.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

No but for completely different reasons. The number of skill points you get for 50k xp at lvl 20 is very nice and feels rewarding.

All they have to do is go back and do all the quests they skip and they can get to lvl 20 no problem, of if they skipped missions, 1k each mission they skipped.

A lot of people offer running for tips so it can be very cheap to get through most of the game now.

Some jobs, monk comes to mind where if you are sub level (but not too low) can get in missions if they are decent in healing due to lack of monk players.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

I found it hard to ascend at lv17 but did and jumped to lv20. But I was in a hurry lol. Usually I'll ascend at lv20 and get a pile of skill points since it only takes 15k experience to get new points. You get a lot this way.

RaabTheGuru

RaabTheGuru

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Southern California

Wizards Anomyous [WoA]

N/Me

The only reason people ascend at low levels is because they're on their 20th character or so and they're sick of the same missions and storyline. They're trying to get as much xp as fast as they can.

ThunderStruck

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Arctic Marauders [TAM]

Quote:
Originally Posted by RaabTheGuru
The only reason people ascend at low levels is because they're on their 20th character or so and they're sick of the same missions and storyline. They're trying to get as much xp as fast as they can.
Yup, that's why I ascended when I was lvl 10 once. I almost got the bonus, too!

Apple

Apple

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/Mo

Low level ascenscion = Godly for 55hp monks...

LouAl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

I just acsended my e/r at lvl 16. It wasn't anything special but got me what I really wanted...the 2nd 15 attribute quest and the option of going to UW/FoW.

Cador

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Relax Its Just A [GAME]

R/E

You dont understand i beat doppel at lvl 3 with mes was like lvl 10 i cant remember its my third accout anyways i did dragons lair probably 120 times with henchies was lvl 20 real fast lol why dont ppl get how easy dl is with henchies

G_Bones

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Legion of the Devine

I ascended my Monk at level 14. Jumped from low level 14 to high 18! And I did get the bonus, thank you.

onilink

onilink

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Consortium of Evil Monkeys

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by [Apple]
Low level ascenscion = Godly for 55hp monks...
I disagree. It's not exactly a great thing to suddenly gain 20hp because of a level up while fighting as a 55.

Apple

Apple

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/Mo

It still helps, for that first few runs. When one thing dies in the UW, most of the stuff you're fighting tends to die with it at the same time, and even when they dont, you tend to not need as little health when you're fighting fewer foes. Then add in some skillful manipulation of -50, -20 and regular focii, and you're set!

LordMahal

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Germany

R/Mo

Uh, some of you like ascending at 20... To get a whole bunch of skill points.... 3? Thats a whole bunch? I can get more than that in FOW and making up missions ive missed. I suppose 3 points is ok in one sitting, but thats not a lot. I had a guild member ascend at 11 or 12, only got to 17. Before the patch, in the good days, I ascended 3 of my 4 characters on 10 or less, and was put on 20... I loved it. Now I ascend my guys, cause Im tired of waiting, been through the game too many times now.

Keyote

Keyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by yomom1919
its MUCH HARDER to get from lvl 15-20 then it is from 10-15. People that ascend at low levels are faced with the problem that now they need to get to lvl 20
Hi, I play a game called Guild Wars where getting to level 20 takes between 1 - 3 days.

Which game are you playing?

Rilder

Rilder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mystic Shadow Soldiers (MSS)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyote
Hi, I play a game called Guild Wars where getting to level 20 takes between 1 - 3 days.

Which game are you playing?
so you play say 22, 23 Hours a day? ... my Ele took about a week and a half to get to 17...

Tainek

Tainek

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

[Rage]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rilder
so you play say 22, 23 Hours a day? ... my Ele took about a week and a half to get to 17...

Across a ranger, mesmer, warrior, and a necro , none of them took me more then 25 hours to get to 20 (25 hours being the memser), Only My warrior (fourth character) was rushed (9 hours)

Caleb

Caleb

Nil nisi malis terrori.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by yomom1919
I believe i have a valid argument in saying that its pointless to ascend below lvl 15, because i myself have ascended at lvl 12 (not that it means anything its quite easy). *note: this doesnt count the bonus, which gives u 100k xp, also its quite impossible to get the bonus under level 15 anyway*
50k experience is 50k experience. Killing the doppleganger gives you 50k experience period. There is no sliding scale, the reward is finite.

I received the bonus last night while ascending a level 7 necro, so it is not impossible. Threads on this very forum explain how easily with certain skill sets this is accomplished.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyote
Hi, I play a game called Guild Wars where getting to level 20 takes between 1 - 3 days.

Which game are you playing?
That's if you choose to blow through the game, get power leveled, get runs, and just generally ignore the entire storyline.

I started playing Guild Wars about two weeks ago. The first week was spent fooling around in Pre-searing with many different characters to get a feel for the game and to find the class I liked the best. Week two has been spent leveling up and doing missions. Currently my Elementalist/Monk (really just Elementalist, I don't use the Monk skills) is level 11 and somewhere between 30-40% of the way to level 12...

Some of us actually enjoy playing Guild Wars for the Guild Wars experience, instead of playing it for gold and bragging rights. When I finally do get the ability to go for Ascension, I'm going to wait until I hit level 20 to do it.

Hardcore PvE player for life. Live the Dream! Play pen-and-paper!

I should make that into a signature or something...

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avaith Faer
Play pen-and-paper!
Roleplaying with stats? Why?

On topic, I see no reason not to ascend early. I did it at 12 on my newest character, and it's incredibly easy to gain those last couple levels just going out Grawl-hunting in Witman's Folly.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

So funny. On the one hand we have people complaining there's no end game content to speak of, on the other we have people rushing through the game to get to the end quick.

allience

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

i think ascending early is good. i ascended at lvl 13 and i got the bonus. i forgot how much lvls i gained, think i got 16. if u wear droks armor vs phisical and use the proper skills, u get the bonus

as for lvl 16-20 it's very easy. get some XP scrolls and just do 2 man UW (if ur a monk or necro) or 3 man UW if ur some other profesion.

Keyote

Keyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avaith Faer
That's if you choose to blow through the game, get power leveled, get runs, and just generally ignore the entire storyline.
No, it doesn't require getting run, powerlevelled (how do you define 'powerlevelled' in GW anyway?) or ignoring the storyline. It does mean missing many of the side quests though.

To be honest I try not to level too fast because I dont have much else to do in PvE except delete and remake characters. I always find groups now instead of using hench, and even taking it slow it only ever takes a few days because it's so easy. My first ever character took about 1 week to get to 20, including all the side quests I could find.

The point here is, if it's possible to reach the level cap in 1 day then it's hardy a game where you ever have to worry about levelling.

Caelus The Fallen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Glasgow

Voice of the Darkness

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caleb The Pontiff
50k experience is 50k experience. Killing the doppleganger gives you 50k experience period. There is no sliding scale, the reward is finite.

I received the bonus last night while ascending a level 7 necro, so it is not impossible. Threads on this very forum explain how easily with certain skill sets this is accomplished.
While this is true, one has to bear in mind that by being a higher level when one finally goes back to complete missed missions/quest means that one will receive diminished rewards from combat, and as such the total XP gain will be lessened.
Since early missions arent particularly difficult, there is little to gain by doing them at a high level, but these is XP to lose... This is of course on the basis that one will eventually choose to complete missed missions...

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

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A guildmate and I spent an evening running our level 11 and 12 characters through the game. We did the Ascension missions at those levels and enjoyed the challenge. Sure, people will say it's not that hard, but it is harder if you have less than half the attributes you should have, and armor level that came from Ascalon, as well as a mostly henchmen team.

We Ascended and got to level 17 and 18. Spent part of the next day reaching 20.

It was fun.

jammr_m32

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

Some people do it just to do it. I've got two accounts and ascended one of my characters at level 8 just to see if I could.

PatteNo1

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Finland

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by RaabTheGuru
The only reason people ascend at low levels is because they're on their 20th character or so and they're sick of the same missions and storyline. They're trying to get as much xp as fast as they can.
If you dont want to go trough the storyline again, then why, oh why, would you even start a new character? It doesent really make any sense.

Myself i have allways Ascended at level 20 with my characters. It really isnt that hard.

Zilm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I don't understand when one person plays the game in a certain manner and expects everyone else to do the same.

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by yomom1919
I believe i have a valid argument in saying that its pointless to ascend below lvl 15, because i myself have ascended at lvl 12 (not that it means anything its quite easy). *note: this doesnt count the bonus, which gives u 100k xp, also its quite impossible to get the bonus under level 15 anyway*
Lol... Ok, first off, the bonus isn't worth 100k, it is worth 1k. 1000XP. That's all, just like every other bonus.
Secondly, I got the bonus easily at level 11 with a Monk/Ranger. Was level 16 afterwards, and it isn't hard to level to 20 from there.

Xeno Breaker

Xeno Breaker

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/E

Its not that hard to ascend below level 15, actually its quiet easy. My first characte played the game through normally and ascended at level 20. All my other 5 characters ascended at any where from level 3 to level 6 and had the bonus, and they were quiet a breeze as well. And i ascended b4 they had loweded the dificulty of the doppleganger. All you have to do is just think and find a way to kill your double its not about what level you are. Just takes patience.