. I told him to put in the right blade when he accepted the offer but he was already ignoring me so I canceled the trade. These are the sneaky ones that people should be aware of.
Well, i feel like an idiot. (scammed)
Chuba
Many people have tried to scam me... For instance this one guy was selling a max. IDS for 20k, which already sounded too good to be true... but the catch was that he was giving out eggnogs as a "bonus". I began the trade as normal, he showed the blade, it was ok so I put in the money. Then he begins to ask whether I want the bonus, I said sure so he began modifying his offer... Now the blade was there and the eggnog... but wait, the blade wasn´t the same one anymore . I told him to put in the right blade when he accepted the offer but he was already ignoring me so I canceled the trade. These are the sneaky ones that people should be aware of.
. I told him to put in the right blade when he accepted the offer but he was already ignoring me so I canceled the trade. These are the sneaky ones that people should be aware of.
Mavrik
All you need to do is check were the number is. If your asking for 45K... there are two places for numbers. One is for over 1k, the other is for less then 1k.
If your asking for 45k for something, glance and see were it says 45. Is it in the left or right section? When I sell something I always double check the location of the gold amount. I also pass my mouse over the object I am buying to make sure its the correct item and not some look alike.
Common theme with scams is someone caught you napping and you paid for it. Double check and take your time.
If your asking for 45k for something, glance and see were it says 45. Is it in the left or right section? When I sell something I always double check the location of the gold amount. I also pass my mouse over the object I am buying to make sure its the correct item and not some look alike.
Common theme with scams is someone caught you napping and you paid for it. Double check and take your time.
boxterduke
Quote:
Riotact
1 of the 50 million monks at augury rock tried this on me,
gold max 15%^50 great axe for 9k i thought bargain even if it is an ugly axe.
He puts the axe up i put up the gold, he takes away the axe, puts it back, i check its the same axe. He takes the axe away again, puts it back but this time its a crappy one that looks the same and accepts. then says hurry.
If u double check the sale everytime the extra 20 seconds u spend can save u from being scammed.
gold max 15%^50 great axe for 9k i thought bargain even if it is an ugly axe.
He puts the axe up i put up the gold, he takes away the axe, puts it back, i check its the same axe. He takes the axe away again, puts it back but this time its a crappy one that looks the same and accepts. then says hurry.
If u double check the sale everytime the extra 20 seconds u spend can save u from being scammed.
Tarkin
greed = green? Just go slow dont rush... look twice before accepting...
Sir Skullcrasher
I love bots, i got two gold sword :Long Sword 15-22 (req8) +14% dmg in stance, 3/-1 vampiric, +6 armor for 15k and a Flamberge 15-22 (req8) +15% dmg while health above 50%, 10/8 AP, +6 armor for 5k. 
XBloodHoundX
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Maxiemonster
Feel like an idiot? :O You ARE an idiot. I've never been scammed, and I've played 1250 hours now.
|
I dont think that there is anything wrong with the trade system, the only possible solution would to have a popup message when you hit accept that asks if your sure you want to trade for that amount of gold. But that would be a bit tedious. People (like me) just need to slow down and pay careful attention to what they are doing.
FYI Maxie, im not a noob either, ive got over 350 hours which is enough to know better. I was just in a rush. I usually do pay more attention.
Sagius Truthbarron
People offer me 20-100gold for expensive items all the time. Oddly, though, this generally happens when the buyers don't see them as being any good.
Why would you want to scam something off someone that you wouldn't be able to sell back?
People like you will never know the benefits of trusting others, I suppose. Sure, there are alot of Darwins out there, but that doesn't mean you should get to the point of irritating your buyers... People don't like being thought of as thieves, or as if at any second they are about to grab something and run with it.
Why would you want to scam something off someone that you wouldn't be able to sell back?
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Funk_Styles
just assume anybody you dont know is a scammer and trade accordingly
|
XBloodHoundX
one question: If this was reported to ANet do you think that they would actually do something. I mean, they probably get tons of reports like this every day.
eom
dude, it's just 45k imaginary money.
what were you going to buy that you needed that cash, anyway?
what were you going to buy that you needed that cash, anyway?
HDS
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by XBloodHoundX
one question: If this was reported to ANet do you think that they would actually do something. I mean, they probably get tons of reports like this every day.
|
Your fault, not his. Hence not a breach of agreement.
Loviatar
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by XBloodHoundX
one question: If this was reported to ANet do you think that they would actually do something. I mean, they probably get tons of reports like this every day.
|
that is against the TOA (terms of agreement) and EULA under the subparagraph of creating conditions by your actions to make the game less enjoyable.
procedure is to contact customer support providing screenshots of scam, time (local) and area you were in at the time this happened to narrow where they search the logs.
you will not be informed of the outcome due to privacy but depending on seriousness and priors he/she could get a temp ban to closing the account .
as Gaile said we depend on people helping bring these people to our attention as we cant be watching everything
EDIT
THE ABOVE POSTER IS FLAT WRONG AS MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST ACCOUNTS CAN VERIFY (IF THEY BOUGHT ANOTHER COPY)
here is a quote from GAILE GRAY TO VERIFY
Quote:
|
At the same time that I was reviewing the screenshot and email, the Support Team was also checking out the matter. From our reviews, 11 accounts were actioned. That's right: In one district, in a period that spanned fewer than 30 minutes, eleven (11!) people crossed the line and suffered the consequences with account blocks and, in one case, a very probable account ban. Please know that we may not be everywhere, at any given time. But know that we are around, and we'll act if we see something bad going on. Know that we will take your reports seriously, for you can be our eyes and ears to the larger game world. And it is in all our best interests -- gamer, developer, publisher -- to make Guild Wars the best possible place to play. |
Quote:
|
We had cursing. We had flaming with cursing. We had cursing in response to the flaming and cursing. We had racism, or comments about another culture that were demeaning and entirely inappropriate. We had attempted scams. We had impersonation of an NCsoft employee. |
eom
ok, wait......everytime I curse it comes out like this: -----
they ban you for that??
also, is it so wrong to demean other cultures?
I think that is my inalienable right as an american.
they ban you for that??
also, is it so wrong to demean other cultures?
I think that is my inalienable right as an american.
HDS
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by eom
ok, wait......everytime I curse it comes out like this: -----
they ban you for that?? also, is it so wrong to demean other cultures? I think that is my inalienable right as an american. |
Turn off chat filter. I did.
Cultural comments are considered cultural discrimination which is a criminal offence.
I know because i enforced that piece of legislation on a few morons who thought that because i am part german it was fun to make Nazi signs, to hail and etc in my presence.
HDS
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Loviatar
YES
that is against the TOA (terms of agreement) and EULA under the subparagraph of creating conditions by your actions to make the game less enjoyable. procedure is to contact customer support providing screenshots of scam, time (local) and area you were in at the time this happened to narrow where they search the logs. you will not be informed of the outcome due to privacy but depending on seriousness and priors he/she could get a temp ban to closing the account . as Gaile said we depend on people helping bring these people to our attention as we cant be watching everything EDIT THE ABOVE POSTER IS FLAT WRONG AS MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST ACCOUNTS CAN VERIFY (IF THEY BOUGHT ANOTHER COPY) here is a quote from GAILE GRAY TO VERIFY and in case someone doesnt think scamming was part of that account action |
Considering what you said then ANYTHING could be considered for a potential ban, those spamming trades in local channel, makes game less enjoyable.
They will no do anythign to the other guy. No action will be taken.
If he says 35 he does not have to mean 35,000 gold he can mean 35 gold. Precision is a big thing when it comes to ANYTHING legal or any other such thing.
Want a funny story?
When i first began to play the game, i had no clue there was anything other than gold so i thought 35k was 35 gold, in just post sear ascalon i did a trade as such the guy accepted and etc.... 10 minutes later my monk is sitting happily with his item the guy starts flaming over whispers... i inquire as to why he would do that he responds... in the end i got my 35 gold back & another 2K and i gave the guy his item back.
+
Nother time i was running around hekkid as a monk in ascalon arenas, harassing people with the /dance emote, i was bored, whaddaya want, something like 5 people reported me, nothing happened.
That subparagraph as you say it is VERY vague, VERY VERY vague, could mean that cause there are morons who wont give some of their secrets up are driving the economy sky high, which is making the game less enjoyable for avg. player.
Same goes for farmers and etc...
Please, next time you speak, think before doing so.
Loviatar
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by HDS
That subparagraph as you say it is VERY vague, VERY VERY vague,
Please, next time you speak, think before doing so. |
NOPEYOU consider what you say.
1. they can literally do what they want to to police the game to keep it enjoyable for the majority of players.
simply because you dont see any harm in scamming people (its THEIR fault for not knowing better) does not mean Anet does not view it differently than you
2 that very vagueness is what also gives them complete leeway to crack down.
eom
the "gay attitude"?
and I can't make fun of nazis...??
and I can't make fun of nazis...??
Inureface
Don't pick at stupid things you know what I mean by gay attitude. But if it offends some people, I'll change it, no reason to get some idiot all fired up over 1 word like what happened in some old topic.
eom
what old topic?
and what word was it?
gay or nazi?
or diablo?
and what word was it?
gay or nazi?
or diablo?
Inureface
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=119628 A mod deleted alot of posts (including mine) but some guy had the word gay in his post when he was talking about the bug abusers or something. Some idiot started pretending to be mature and de-railing the topic because he couldn't tolerate that kind of "homophobic" language. But his post encouraged alot of fools to further de-rail the topic and the ironic thing was if they just shut the hell up in the first place, less people would've known about the word "gay" in that post since there wouldn't be 5 quotes of it all over the topic.
Talon Berethin
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by cerb
Anet should not ban these people. It is your own fault if you fall for this kind of scam. The trade system is very secure compared to the one in Diablo II, if you fall for this kind of scam then that's your problem.
Remember that Anet isn't police, they provided us with a great game and they wouldn't ban anyone for doing that especially if you look at how good their trade system is (really.). I'm sure they have better stuff to do than ban every little scammer. Really, if every single of you people took the time to make sure you are trading for the right offer, their trick would never work and they wouldn't even bother to try it. They do because it works. |
This kind of scam isn't really a scam, but instead carelessness on the part of the seller. The only scam that really ticks me off is the Pre-Sear Black dye scam. Noobies don't know the prices yet so this is officially scam worthy. Everything else is just your lack of attention i.e Money switch, Mursaat token for ecto, etc....
Also Inureface, not to be an ass but to rob Fort Knox you better have a large army equipped with high tech weaponry, along with air support, C4, and some tanks. It looks easy as hell in Goldfinger (cuz he has a LAZER BEAM), but in real life it's impossible. Also I realize you were being theoretical, hypothetical, whateverthehelical, but you could still be realistic
Inureface
Call it what you want, its a scam. If I just "tricked" you right now out of 45k which you've been saving for a month, would you still think the way you are right now??? I know how it is to be scammed, if you're rushing its partly your fault but on other ocassions sometimes you just don't notice when they do a swap.
eom
I'll bet spiderman could rob fort knox if he wanted to --- but, of course, that would never happen.
Valdaran Longfoot
Getting ripped off is the fault of the user because he's not paying attention/new to the game/busy/whatever so next time get over it.
However, taking advantage of that person MAKES it your fault too. You are deciding to rip this person off, so you are NOT 100% blame free. (Except for the RARE exceptions where neither person noticed)
I personally don't think that the person scaming should be banned forever, but then again I'm not ANet. They may think differently. It is THEIR decision, not yours.
If Anet banns people though, good for them. It will make people more aware in trading, making both sides check for fear of being punished.
However, taking advantage of that person MAKES it your fault too. You are deciding to rip this person off, so you are NOT 100% blame free. (Except for the RARE exceptions where neither person noticed)
I personally don't think that the person scaming should be banned forever, but then again I'm not ANet. They may think differently. It is THEIR decision, not yours.
If Anet banns people though, good for them. It will make people more aware in trading, making both sides check for fear of being punished.
Inureface
So its both peoples fault, but the attitude that the scammer did nothing wrong is retarded, which was shown in my quote on my main post.
Diablo???
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Hamstein
To say its your own fault if you get scammed is retarded.The scammer has purposefully tried to rip someone off,regardless of the fact that the scamee was prehaps careless and/or didn`t know better.
IMO scammer`s should be perma banned period.Just cos they are too dumb/unskilled to make cash legitly they prey on the newbies/people who have a slight lapse in concerntration for a sec.
The fact that people are here in this thread supporting scammers makes me wonder if thes idiots are infact scammers themselves.
Make no bones about it scammers are the lowest of the low.For the record I have 1200 hrs on GW and have never been scammed,have had ppl try it on before,but after I tell my guildies and the attempted scammer gets 20 whispers he soon logs off.
IMO scammer`s should be perma banned period.Just cos they are too dumb/unskilled to make cash legitly they prey on the newbies/people who have a slight lapse in concerntration for a sec.
The fact that people are here in this thread supporting scammers makes me wonder if thes idiots are infact scammers themselves.
Make no bones about it scammers are the lowest of the low.For the record I have 1200 hrs on GW and have never been scammed,have had ppl try it on before,but after I tell my guildies and the attempted scammer gets 20 whispers he soon logs off.
ty3c
I will admit ive been scammed by this once too
i lost two weapons worth 30,000 ea so I lost 60k
but I didnt stop playing I pushed myself to make more and get better and I did
and if you think thats bad I lost 200k in runescape to an armour scam
but I retired from runescape with 20 million gold
dont quit keep going build some wealth and enjoy best wishes to all who got scammed by stupid scammers YEA SCAMMERS YOU SUCK
too bad Anet does nothing to these evil gamers they keep playing just be careful
Peace.
i lost two weapons worth 30,000 ea so I lost 60k
but I didnt stop playing I pushed myself to make more and get better and I did
and if you think thats bad I lost 200k in runescape to an armour scam
but I retired from runescape with 20 million gold
dont quit keep going build some wealth and enjoy best wishes to all who got scammed by stupid scammers YEA SCAMMERS YOU SUCK
too bad Anet does nothing to these evil gamers they keep playing just be careful
Peace.
Soul Shaker
yeah, but there's a huge difference between RS and GW...
200k RS is about 2k GW....
200k RS is about 2k GW....
generik
Quote:
|
At the same time that I was reviewing the screenshot and email, the Support Team was also checking out the matter. From our reviews, 11 accounts were actioned. That's right: In one district, in a period that spanned fewer than 30 minutes, eleven (11!) people crossed the line and suffered the consequences with account blocks and, in one case, a very probable account ban. Please know that we may not be everywhere, at any given time. But know that we are around, and we'll act if we see something bad going on. Know that we will take your reports seriously, for you can be our eyes and ears to the larger game world. And it is in all our best interests -- gamer, developer, publisher -- to make Guild Wars the best possible place to play. |
Fact is Anet really does nothing, and I'm not surprised.
I've reported countless people for similar heinous acts, and guess what? Those guys (which I added to my friend's list just to monitor) are still happily enjoying the game, probably getting their 10th FoW armor now.
generik
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Inureface
Call it what you want, its a scam. If I just "tricked" you right now out of 45k which you've been saving for a month, would you still think the way you are right now??? I know how it is to be scammed, if you're rushing its partly your fault but on other ocassions sometimes you just don't notice when they do a swap.
|
So you can be in a hurry and make mistakes, what if the buyer also (not too coincidentally since EVERYONE seems to be in a hurry and making A LOT OF MISTAKES) happens to be like you, entered 45g instead of 45k and the next day realised he got banned?
You got to look at 2 sides of the picture here, it is not like Anet can go all trigger happy and ban everybody that makes a mistake.
sno
Quote:
|
Fact is Anet really does nothing, and I'm not surprised. I've reported countless people for similar heinous acts, and guess what? Those guys (which I added to my friend's list just to monitor) are still happily enjoying the game, probably getting their 10th FoW armor now. |
Look at how hack-free Guild Wars has stayed, and you claim that Anet doesn't do anything? Come on now, look at the big picture.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by My Sweet Revenga
Actually according to bush I believe it's
Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice........ fool you fool ain't gonna fool me again. |
Don Vito Corleone
Quote:
| If it makes you feel any better I sold 8 ectos for 83g about a month ago. |
kidding
i'll tell u something....i remeber when i played this game first time and i wanted to sell a bow for 100g(i know its not comparble by 45k) but i wasnt know how to sell or buy....some1 decided to buy the bow from me so i opened trade screen and put the bow +100g!!!
i thought i must put my price with the item so the person who took it got the bow and the 100g
the next person who wants to buy a bow told me im wrong and he gave me my 250g
it was a lesson for me...so i asked and looked in the internet about how to trade
wat u need now is dont accept untill u make sure the buyer accepted ur demand correctly so look at the amount carefully and dont worry about him just let him wait dont press accept because u dont want to let the buyer wait for a min and make sure of the money boxes how many he paid and clear ur mind cause some people will die for the money even in the game so dont think u'll become very rich by selling this item.
take it easy its a lesson for u and maybe the buyer himself didnt mean it cause i saw some players wants to sell ecto for 200g and some wants to sell it for 10g.....some of the new players doesnt know what the deference between gp and k which mean thousand.
Poison Ivy
Never been scammed once.
The trade window should be a bit more complicated, for example, a window pops up and says: "You are trading a VICTO'S BATTLE AXE for 60 PLATIUM", and make the characters red, I'm sure that ajustment will prevent a lot of scammers of even attempting it.
The trade window should be a bit more complicated, for example, a window pops up and says: "You are trading a VICTO'S BATTLE AXE for 60 PLATIUM", and make the characters red, I'm sure that ajustment will prevent a lot of scammers of even attempting it.
HDS
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Loviatar
NOPEYOU consider what you say. 1. they can literally do what they want to to police the game to keep it enjoyable for the majority of players. simply because you dont see any harm in scamming people (its THEIR fault for not knowing better) does not mean Anet does not view it differently than you 2 that very vagueness is what also gives them complete leeway to crack down. |
kdhoney44
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Diablo™
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me. |
Loviatar
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by HDS
Because then you would have a "Dictatorship", look that up in the dictionary.
|
i guess you are not aware that the first amendment and constitutional rights do not apply to an internet site?or an internet game?
the terms you have to agree to to install and play the game give them the right to police and manage the game at *the sole consideration and judgement without recourse except as granted by Anet/NCsoft at their discretion *
possibly you have not noticed some of the different threads on verious sites ranging from my account was banned from 24 hours to a week to
I WAS INFORMED I LOST MY ACCOUNT PERMANENTLY....CAN THEY DO THIS?
they ban and permalock accounts daily and more power to them to get rid of jerks.
REPORT SCAMMERS AND IF THEY ARE NOT BANNED THIS TIME MAYBE THEY WILL BE THE NEXT.
in case you missed it here is an answer from Gaile Gray on an event brought to her attention and action taken
here is a quote from GAILE GRAY TO VERIFY
Quote:
|
At the same time that I was reviewing the screenshot and email, the Support Team was also checking out the matter. From our reviews, 11 accounts were actioned. That's right: In one district, in a period that spanned fewer than 30 minutes, eleven (11!) people crossed the line and suffered the consequences with account blocks and, in one case, a very probable account ban. Please know that we may not be everywhere, at any given time. But know that we are around, and we'll act if we see something bad going on. Know that we will take your reports seriously, for you can be our eyes and ears to the larger game world. And it is in all our best interests -- gamer, developer, publisher -- to make Guild Wars the best possible place to play. |
report them and help get them banned from the game
HDS
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Loviatar
i guess you are not aware that the first amendment and constitutional rights do not apply to an internet site?or an internet game? the terms you have to agree to to install and play the game give them the right to police and manage the game at *the sole consideration and judgement without recourse except as granted by Anet/NCsoft at their discretion * possibly you have not noticed some of the different threads on verious sites ranging from my account was banned from 24 hours to a week to I WAS INFORMED I LOST MY ACCOUNT PERMANENTLY....CAN THEY DO THIS? they ban and permalock accounts daily and more power to them to get rid of jerks. REPORT SCAMMERS AND IF THEY ARE NOT BANNED THIS TIME MAYBE THEY WILL BE THE NEXT. in case you missed it here is an answer from Gaile Gray on an event brought to her attention and action taken here is a quote from GAILE GRAY TO VERIFY she stated there was a big backlog but eventually they will get to the complaint you put in. report them and help get them banned from the game |
ROFL the quote again, please read the REST of the thread before posting it.
I guess you are not aware that:
1) I don't live in America
2) I am aware that the constitution doesn't apply to games
3) People will still NOT want to play in a game where there is a Devtatorship
Please, next time before you REPOST again what has been posted, read the rest of the thread.
Beat_Go_Stick
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Inureface
Call it what you want, its a scam. If I just "tricked" you right now out of 45k which you've been saving for a month, would you still think the way you are right now??? I know how it is to be scammed, if you're rushing its partly your fault but on other ocassions sometimes you just don't notice when they do a swap.
|
Logic like that is why America is suddenly so full to the brim with sue-happy fools. You should, in no way, be entitled to protection from your own stupidity. It is YOUR job, not A.Net's, to make sure you like the trade you are being offerred. It is A.Net's job, not yours, to make sure the system in place is a secure and safe way to trade items and gold.
If you buy a vacuum cleaner, then vacuum your curtains and ruin them, is it the Hoover's job to make sure you are given new curtains? No. It's YOU who used the tool. It's YOU who used it unwisely. It's YOU who needs to grow up, accept that YOU did something wrong, learn from it, and learn the meaning of the word 'wisdom' so you won't get fooled again.
Our experiences teach us if we are willing to learn. Placing the blame on others for mistakes we could have easily prevented from occurring is the way of fools and the not-so-blissfully ignorant.
eom
I still want to know how that one guy could possibly get cheated out of 350k.
probably trying to turn it into 700k.
probably trying to turn it into 700k.