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Fox Reeveheart

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Michigan

none q.q

D/

16 Feb 2006 at 07:39 - 1

Now this really busts my buttons.

Why does japan get its own server and korea gets its own server and it looks like taiwan is getting their own server too?

this is bs.

I mean we have like 5x their population YET we are stuck in with canada (nothing against canadians, im part canadian anyways).

The worst is that EVERY european country is just put in a "europe" server.

I understand Anet may be something of an asian company but this is just complete asian bias.

I say either combine all the asian contries into an "asian" server. Same goes with rest of euro countries and the americas.

Or make EVERY country its own server. United states server, Canada server........ UK server, france server, etc.

Why is the western world getting the short end of the stick? huh?

I swear they need someone to answer these questions a lot, gaile grey I have not seen in forever.

you got 2 choices. Either combine the asian countries. Therefore we have a healthy competition between americas, europe, and asia going for favor.

Or you can make everyone seperate and make everyone go for uber builds for their one single country to get favor.

And how things already are, you have to win 5 times consecutively to gain favor, if you lose once or if another country wins, that is reset to five

CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE TO TAKE AWAY FAVOR WITH ALL THESE COUNTRIES GOING FOR FAVOR?! United states would win like 3, then all the sudden canada wins 2, then korea wins 1, then japan, then taiwan,etc. And whoever had favor to begin with still has it because of that!

Soul Shaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Soul Crusaders

16 Feb 2006 at 08:52 - 2

Then again, asians have a reputation for owning in online games... *cough* korea *cough* , and combine all of them together and we have an unstoppable force against us. We'd get our arses handed to us if they seperated us all too, even an australian server...

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

16 Feb 2006 at 09:03 - 3

yep , if there was a asia territory you could simple say , bye bye favor ...

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

16 Feb 2006 at 09:25 - 4

Well, they don't speak the same language, so why should they be lumped onto one server? I believe the European server(s) have different language districts. Not sure, since I haven't gone over there to look.

Daena

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

16 Feb 2006 at 09:29 - 5

I agree it will be harder for the USA and Europe to get favor with Japan and Taiwan having their separate servers, but don't forget, Taiwan and Japan are still new at this game.. so getting favor will not be such a problem as of yet (It's not like Korea has favor all the time now

).
Taiwan and Japan have a lot of catching up to do..
In the future, however, this may cause serious problems

Either as a combined Asian Server (superforce against us) or as three separate servers (five servers total fighting for favor with 5 wins to get it).. i think getting favor will be much harder..
Anyway, that's just how I see it..

Daena

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

16 Feb 2006 at 09:33 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist

Well, they don't speak the same language, so why should they be lumped onto one server? I believe the European server(s) have different language districts. Not sure, since I haven't gone over there to look.

European servers have English, French, Spanish and German districts I believe.. So why not make an Asian Server with Korean, Taiwanese and Japanese districts?

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

16 Feb 2006 at 09:38 - 7

Ok, that makes sense.

Maybe I should drag my carcass off to bed since my brain seems to have shut down. lmao

Blade604

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

16 Feb 2006 at 09:41 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daena

European servers have English, French, Spanish and German districts I believe.. So why not make an Asian Server with Korean, Taiwanese and Japanese districts?

The reason is complicated in the fact of the history between those Asian countries listed.

Japan is still dislike by those countries for what they did in WWII to the other countries.
Korea is also dislike by China and Japan.
China and Taiwan have a situation of Taiwan being a province of China and Taiwan saying they are there own country.

All this leads to if all the Asian countries on the same server will make to arguements and racist comments against each other which I do wish to see.

European countries are friendly towards each other so it's easy to put them on the same server which is the same for the American server. You still see discussion on politics on all servers though.

Daena

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

16 Feb 2006 at 09:56 - 9

Yes, I suppose you are right.. I'm not too familiar with history of Asian countries. I'm sure Anet had a good reason to give those countries separate servers

That doesn't take away that both Europe and USA now have two more Asian countries to fight in order to get favor, if you look at it from a "continent-point-of-view"..

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

16 Feb 2006 at 10:06 - 10

the harder the better IMO ...

we dont want people saying they are bored ...

Daena

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

16 Feb 2006 at 10:09 - 11

lol people won't say they are bored.. they will say it's unfair...

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

16 Feb 2006 at 11:31 - 12

Europe joins up with America so we can pwn the "Asian Invasion"...as my friend would like to call it...

devilru

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

公平さの光 [微笑]

16 Feb 2006 at 11:46 - 13

I'm on the American Server but live in Australia, and I really don't mind.
More people online means finding parties will be easier when Guildies arn't always available to help.
The only Top Ranking Aussie Guild I know of is We Are The Force (WtF) who are around #200+

If we had our own server i'd probably never get to go to UW of FoW.

I think the countries like Japan, Taiwan and China get their own servers because of the language difference. I know Europe is split into different districts but French, German, English basically use the same 'characters'. Japanese Hiragana (or is it Katakana) is different to the symbols used in Mandarin.
I also think it's worth investing in a server for those countries because they have the playing population to support it.

Gaile Gray has stated on ANZGW that investing in an Australasian server (Australia, New Zealand, Phillipines, Indonesia, Malayasia, Singapore) probably isn't worth the costs.

I guess that doesn't really explain Canada's situation, not sure how many people play GW over there.

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

16 Feb 2006 at 12:04 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade604

China and Taiwan have a situation of Taiwan being a province of China and Taiwan saying they are there own country.

China has actually threatened to use nuclear weapons against Taiwan for that.

I can just imagine it now, a Chinese team of Ele's "nuking" a Taiwanese team. Yeah. You know, blast me for being a twisted morbid bastard, but on some level that's funny.

I say let A-net do whatever they choose, as long as the game is still as awesome as it is now (minus the crap from the farming and whatnot... Factions FTW!).

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

Mo/

16 Feb 2006 at 12:34 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by devilru

Japanese Hiragana (or is it Katakana) is different to the symbols used in Mandarin.

Japanese use Hiragana, Katakana AND Kanji. They have 3 different writing systems in use, higarana for 'Japanese' words, katakana for 'foreign' words and kanji for 'Chinese' words. I'd assume Chinese and Japanese kanji letters are more or less the same.. I haven't studied all that much in to Chinese writing system tho.

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

16 Feb 2006 at 13:10 - 16

Interesting...

I think this is really the problem Anet will try to tackle in Chapter 2, by having only 2 factions and the choice open between either. No more fighting between different continents and different countries that perhaps bring out their better abilities than others. Only two sides, and more equally distributed in ability. I don't know what will happen to Chapter 1 as regards to this issue but Chapter 2 will be different.

007Bistromath

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Death Over Flowers

16 Feb 2006 at 21:21 - 17

Forget about the skill level for a minute.

China has over a damn billion people. A sixth of the world population in one nation. Sure, it's unlikely they'll ever get the game, what with being oppressed and all. Furthermore, the vast majority of those billion plus are too poor to get the game, let alone a networked computer to play it on.

On the off-chance that they do ever get it, however, if there is a Southeast Asia district, they will obviously have to be included.

Everybody gets zerged.

I'd prefer that Anet play it safe.

PS: Oh, hey, welcome to the world, you guys. Y'all should know that this is why the US, so bent on freeing oppressed people by shooting the oppression right out of them, has never even looked at China cross-eyed all these many decades. It just wouldn't work. I felt like tossin' that in, is all.

Illusion

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where do you live?

Elite Mercenary Legion

16 Feb 2006 at 21:28 - 18

as for the language problem maybe a translator to there computer/program?

007Bistromath

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Death Over Flowers

16 Feb 2006 at 21:29 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illusion

translator

BWAHAHAHA! lol babelfish!

Okay, I guess I should explain that.

People can't even translate things quite right much of the time. I'm talking about experts, here. Computers? pffffffft lol babelfish again

Illusion

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where do you live?

Elite Mercenary Legion

16 Feb 2006 at 21:48 - 20

ok how about a dictionary =)

drowningfish999

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Awakened Tempest [aT]

16 Feb 2006 at 22:11 - 21

The population sizes may be different, but not everyone in the US plays GW, and I'm betting population wise, the servers are about even, except for maybe Europe.

KvanCetre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Madison Scouts

E/Mo

16 Feb 2006 at 22:35 - 22

I love how people assume Korea is better are pvp...

Their PUGs are better, but against a well organized American team they're no better.

The only difference is that their PUGs understand team work...

007Bistromath

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Death Over Flowers

16 Feb 2006 at 23:26 - 23

I'm betting the servers are definitely not even. I'm even willing to bet that there is a much larger proportion of Koreans, etc. who play compared to either Europeans or Panamericans. Video games are serious business over there. You can get on TV and make phat bank if you're good. I thought everyone knew this.

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

16 Feb 2006 at 23:49 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007Bistromath

You can get on TV and make phat bank if you're good. I thought everyone knew this.

You can do that here too.

fyi.

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

17 Feb 2006 at 00:05 - 25

Seperate every country in europe and you have a lot of servers, Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and The United Kingdom.
Bad Idea?

I prefer the idea of merging Asia, not their servers, just their Favour region, so they are seperate, but all play for "Asian" favour.

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

17 Feb 2006 at 00:10 - 26

America kills ourselves with using IWAY 24/7. Honestly you cant find non-iway. It may work anywhere BUT HoH and thats why Europe has had favor so often. (not knocking down your skill level Europe)

Como Fort

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Reading, England

[mB] Mental Block

Mo/Me

17 Feb 2006 at 00:13 - 27

LoL, Europe owns favor most of the day anyways, Asia getting favor wouldn't be such a problem would it?

prodigy ming

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

17 Feb 2006 at 01:29 - 28

I think an combined Asian server might actually help to reinforce better relationship between the Asian countries. They will start looking at each other as teammates instead of past enemies.
If you get separate Asian servers, I think it will only increase the intensity of the conflict since they will be fighting each other just like the old days.

I grew up in Hong Kong so we are pretty neutral... but I heard in mainland China kids were taught to hate Taiwanese and Japanese. Taiwanese are also taught to hate mainland Chinese. Korean also dislike the Japanese. Japanese weren't really taught what happened in the past so they have no idea why everyone hates them. Ya and thats just sounds like one big mess...
why not try to bring them all together through a game?

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

17 Feb 2006 at 03:11 - 29

on the other hand, having multiple territories prevents asia from taking HoH easily. Flavorfully, I agree, but I couldnt care less if they were seperate servers

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

17 Feb 2006 at 03:14 - 30

Honestly, i'd like to see europe outlawed from HoH for awhile... i want favor for more than 30 minutes!!!

(PS, just kidding, europe)

toramiko

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Mystic Masters of Gaia

Mo/

17 Feb 2006 at 03:42 - 31

This whole segregating and/or merging servers topic has sprouted some unnecessary debating in my opinion.

Anet is a business after all. So they make their decisions accordingly. Having separate asian servers is more of a marketing issue than anything else, I'm guessing.

Other countries might have different payment methods based on their demographic. So their servers might be setup slightly differently. Merging all the asian countries together that uses different methods will cause conflict.

A smart choice would be to separate them, less confusion, more organization. Results in a more efficient running business. That's what I think.

Besides, I have no problem with how things are now anyway.

William Stark

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

UK

The Imperial Guards

W/Mo

17 Feb 2006 at 09:54 - 32

Just to put my ha'pen w'th in from the European server (and please note the use of what I felt was an appropriate old-fashioned Anglicism there)....

I'm from the UK, but my guild includes people from several European countries- Holland, Romania, Sweden, Germany, Finland and others. My friends list contains people from at least a few more.

PvE on the Euro servers has meant some great meetings, some laugh my ass off attempts at comunicating with each other and some great times.

I would always vote for keeping the Euro server as it is, so I can keep meeting fun people from countries where, even if I never get to go there, at least I know now what music they like