Solo SF, TESTING

xxreaper008

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

People acomplished soloing UW, FoW, Titans. So i thought to myself, Why noT SF. So i tried this build and i got all the way near SF entrance, but i had to go . 55 monk!
So here it is:

Prot Spirit.
Mending
Balth Spirit
Healing Breeze
Spell Breaker {E}
Earth Quake
After Shock
Blessed Sig


Enjoy. And please post if you can modify this build. Srry but im in a rush atm because im posting this at school. I will update this with pictures.

Gildor Took

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Australia, 3rd rock from the sun

Mo/

i guess you stop enchant removal with spellbreaker but does sb last that long?

xxreaper008

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Thats my only problem thoe. But i usually cast SB, run the the mesmers, kill them before SB ends, so no one cna remove my enchants.

Charr Killer

Charr Killer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

In a box on a street corner

Blazin Dragons [BD]

since your using earth you should try Obsidian Flesh {E}

kinda like SB i think a lil better tho

xxreaper008

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

I would use SB because I allready have a superior prot rune, so its boosted to be longer.

Gildor Took

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Australia, 3rd rock from the sun

Mo/

SB is better than Obsidian flesh in this case because u can have 16 divine compared to 12 earth unless the duration for a lvl 12 obsidian flesh is longer than a lvl 16 sb (i dunno about earth skills)

just like to point out that soloing SF with e/me is possible

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Obsidian Flesh is longer I think...around 18 seconds...not sure.

But Obsidian Flesh reduces speed, so I'm not sure if you can even run up to the mesmers before the time is over.

xxreaper008

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Running and Kill your target ind 24 seconds is pleanty of time. And also he will try casting shatter enchant, by the time SB ends, the shater enchant would still be charging.

got lah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

[LOOL]

W/

Attributes, weapon set, etc, would work nicely here. Thanks.

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gildor Took
just like to point out that soloing SF with e/me is possible How so?

Mentalmdc

Mentalmdc

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Vile Of Faith [NOVA]

Mo/Me

New idea

55hp Ele

15/16 Earth
10 Prot
8 heal
rest in Energy Store

Prot Spirit.
Mending
Balth Spirit
Healing Breeze
Obsidian Flesh {E}
Earth Quake
After Shock
Blessed Sig/crystal wave

-THE M-

urbnatr

urbnatr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nocturnal Syndicate[sYn]

W/

i dont think that can kill a monk boss

sonic1636

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Assassins for Hire

Mo/Me

hmmm well only one way to find out... *goes to try* lol

xxreaper008

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

I can't kill the monk boss, I just got home from school, im gunna take a few shots, do weapons sets, and attrbutes, and make it into a real guild.

xxreaper008

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

----. I'm going to have to put this on hold. My little bro just deleted my ------ 55 monk! Canged my password so he cant go on my acount. So i just started a new 55 monk. hopefully by firday he'll be lvl 20.


BTW the build is alot better on elementalist.

sonic1636

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Assassins for Hire

Mo/Me

ele runes are cheap as hell too... lol

xxreaper008

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Its really because obsidian fleash lasts alot longer, and earthquak costs 25 energy.

JoeKnowMo

JoeKnowMo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Wessst Siiide, USA

Mo/

At 16 Divine, SB lasts 18 seconds. With a + 20% encant mod, 22 secs. Recharge time 45 seconds. With a 20/20 divine favor recharge staff, one in five times you can cast it back to back.

At 12 Earth, Obs Flesh lasts 18 seconds. Recharge time of 30 secs.

Big difference however, is that enemies will waste their spells on you when you have SB on. Thus, they lose most of their energy. With OF, enemies will not cast and will therefore have energy. They will wait for it to wear out and then then slam you with spells.

In conclusion, SB should be better for your purpose of soloing.

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeKnowMo
At 16 Divine, SB lasts 18 seconds. With a + 20% encant mod, 22 secs. Recharge time 45 seconds. With a 20/20 divine favor recharge staff, one in five times you can cast it back to back.

At 12 Earth, Obs Flesh lasts 18 seconds. Recharge time of 30 secs.

Big difference however, is that enemies will waste their spells on you when you have SB on. Thus, they lose most of their energy. With OF, enemies will not cast and will therefore have energy. They will wait for it to wear out and then then slam you with spells.

In conclusion, SB should be better for your purpose of soloing. Listen to this guy^^ He's correct.

tuna-fish_sushi

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

well if its 18 second obsidian flesh or 18 seconds sb
and they both are 22 with 20%enchant mod the recharge of obsidian flesh is obviously better then sb (30seconds or 45) i would have to choose obsidian flesh.

xxreaper008

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Obsidian Fleash Is way better. With 16 earth magic, obsidian would last 22 sec, you have to remember that you would hold a 20% longer mod so it would be a good 26 seonds. Also heres a chance of faster recharge.
You can maybe fit blessed alura in there so it could last about 29 second.

But if you try out to be a Mo/Ele, energy is going to be a big problem because of earthquake+ exostion. Im gunna think of a new build that i can do without eathquake.



Quote:
At 12 Earth, Obs Flesh lasts 18 seconds. Recharge time of 30 secs.

Big difference however, is that enemies will waste their spells on you when you have SB on. Thus, they lose most of their energy. With OF, enemies will not cast and will therefore have energy. They will wait for it to wear out and then then slam you with spells.

In conclusion, SB should be better for your purpose of soloing. Whats skills is there to through at you? The mesmers would first cast a few hexs on you before they use shatter enchant. Obsidian Fleash would be a smarter choice in my opinion.

xxreaper008

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

This WILL work. I will try it out when i get my elementalist on lvl 20.

55hp Ele

16 Earth
10 Prot
8 heal
rest in Energy Store

Prot Spirit.
Mending
Balth Spirit
Healing Breeze
Obsidian Flesh {E}
Stoning
After Shock
Crstal Wave


cast obsidian fleash and slowly goto the mesmer. cast stoning then aftershock. then crystal wave. repeat.

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

N/

Considering the only cover enchant in the build you posted is going to be healing breeze which is your main form of self healing, and you plan on soloing grenth's then into SF with it. Good luck with that.

If you don't kill any mesmer before O.F. runs out prepare to get healing breeze shattered( if you're smart enough to cover Protective spirit with it, if you didn't you're dead) then hit with degen. Not to mention the bleeding, disrupting chops, dwarven battle stance, and giant stomps going on while your trying to take out the mesmer under the protection of O.F.

And all this is taking place right outside war camp. My personal suggestion would be to not take spellbreaker or Obsidian flesh at all and find a cheap spammable 5 energy cover enchant to protect yourself vs shatters......but what would I know about dealing with mesmers solo with a 55hp build

But hey you could always try and respawn till you get a mesmer free run into SF.....but you're still gonna have to deal with mesmers once inside, and usually more then 1 at a time. I guess you can look at it this way if you die, at least you don't get sent out of the zone and can slowly widdle away farther in.

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kcp
Listen to this guy^^ He's correct. No hes not. Mobs do not "loose most of their energy" attempting to cast. They have quasi infinite energy.

onilink

onilink

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Consortium of Evil Monkeys

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ubermancer
No hes not. Mobs do not "loose most of their energy" attempting to cast. They have quasi infinite energy. Then why does casting sv on a 55 monk cause the smites to run out of energy and become unable to cast smite hex?

got lah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

[LOOL]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxreaper008
This WILL work. I will try it out when i get my elementalist on lvl 20.

55hp Ele

16 Earth
10 Prot
8 heal
rest in Energy Store

Prot Spirit.
Mending
Balth Spirit
Healing Breeze
Obsidian Flesh {E}
Stoning
After Shock
Crstal Wave


cast obsidian fleash and slowly goto the mesmer. cast stoning then aftershock. then crystal wave. repeat.
Stoning triggers knockdown upon casting on a weakened foe.... if that's what you think.

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ubermancer
No hes not. Mobs do not "loose most of their energy" attempting to cast. They have quasi infinite energy. This is the second time you've stated this to me...... I'm calling B.S. on you until you pump out some numbers.

If they had quasi infinitegazillionx10 energy as you state why does Sympathetic visage drain a monks energy to zero if melee is damaging your character while standing next to a monk? Why do 99% of the n/me's doing UW runs with monks use it vs smites? Why does mindwrack trigger on shadow monks in fow when you go at them with an energy denial mesmer?

The guy is right on the Spell breaker statement, enemies due in fact waste their energy trying to cast on a SB'd target( not ALL of it .) When you try to cast on a Obsidian flesh enchanted target you simply cannot cast and do not waste your energy trying to do so. So this would mean the same would hold true for a PVE enemy trying to cast on your ele while enchanted by obsidian flesh. There will be no skill recharge on the failed attempts or energy loss for that matter either since you simply are "unable to cast."

So with this being stated AGAIN I was correct in my original statement agreeing with Joe.

Anyways from what I hear the "ele" build that solo's SF isnt even a 55hp....but that's just rumor, and by no means can I verify it since I don't play an ele or even do the SF thing.

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

I guess you never tried the 55 monk tanking in UW with spellbreaker..

Yes, SV drains their energy, but just SB does not.. Coldfires continously spam all their spells, they continue doing so after SB has run out..

onilink

onilink

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Consortium of Evil Monkeys

E/

But thats merely good energy management, not infinite energy. He wasn't saying that sb drains energy, just that the enemies can cast while its up, which is not the case with obsidian flesh.

Gildor Took

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Australia, 3rd rock from the sun

Mo/

about soloing the GF with a e/me i can't do it.
BUT i know someone that claims to be able to do it. I mean seriously i thought everybody knew about it.

Look at the screenshot at the bottom of this thread
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=112257