Your opinion about the championship and the finalists

thunderpower

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Europe

KiSS

I was reading the material published by anet about the teams that will compete in the Taipei final in just a few hours/days.

I am curios if any of you know some of the players, if you have played with them, or just based on the description and the interviews you feel you have something to say.

I will not express my taughts just now, i want to see if some1 had the same impressions as me.

And finnaly, who would you like to see as winner.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

I'm aquainted with Paladin from IQ and I'd love to see them win, but I think War Machine will probably take it due to how much time they actually spend playing/practicing in a given day.

tuperwho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tenacious Knights of Doom [TKD]

All I'm pulling for is a US champion!

sleazeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

good from far, far from good

Gaming Continuum

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderpower
I am curios if any of you know some of the players, if you have played with them, or just based on the description and the interviews you feel you have something to say.
Many of the members of Idiot Savants and Treacherous Empire are regular posters here, some also being Mods.

I'm very much looking forward to watching the matches. Great luck to all teams involved, in particular, iQ and Te.

Chuba

Chuba

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Finland

New Dragons [NDR]

Always following the home team, so Go Valandor ! Hyvä Suomi !

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Guildy of mine knew some members or war machine. Had them guest with use in GvG a few games. Nice players. Bad english but that didn't matter

Both are getting paid either way. Korea just get sponsers and paid more

Quozz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Prodigy Exiles (PE)

Mo/E

To be honest I find watching any of the top guilds battling it out to be as interesting as watching grass grow. The battles follow a set pattern and frankly it gets dull seeing the same pressure and spike tactics.

Now the low ranked guilds when they battle it out is far more fun to watch. You never know what your going to see and the battles can develop into wild, chaotic free for alls. Not necessarily tactically sound but more enjoyable to see.

I am really looking forward to the whole tournament thing being done with. As a mostly PVE player with only casual PVP, the tournament has interrupted the normal flow of skill tweaks and other minor changes that had been occuring prior to its start.

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

iQ for teh win!!!11!

Esrever

Esrever

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Looking For Guild

I would like one of the American teams to win, because they're representing my country. I got Paladin from iQ to swear at me once, and I hit Stepn from Te with a hammer in Random Arena once. Other than that, I don't know anyone from any of the teams.

As for who is going to win, I honestly couldn't tell you. At this level of competition, whoever loses is the one who makes the last mistake.

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Near Your House

I Used To Own [ IUTO ]

Go War Machine!
Don't Forgot about Val. i actually have a few Friends in it.
although i live in CA, i want WM To win... although im sure iQ / Te are gonna show us a AWESOME KICK ASS MATCH
im looking Forward
Good Luck WM! i mean iQ!

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

...and I'm gonna miss most of it because of work. When's the DVD coming out?!?

If I can't watch, I'm not rooting for anybody. I've seen more War Machine than anyone else in observer mode lately, so I guess they have a special place in my heart. Planeswalker... what a name.

michaeldt

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

played guest GvG with some friends, only to see Danjang (evil) playing too!!

(it was really funny seeing him give tips to the guy leading, who was a very experienced PvP'er anyway!! but i guess he thought he was helping out... )

Xasew

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Storm Bearers[SB]

Finland all the way baby, go Lamers&Valandor!

I'm finnish btw.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

I'm looking forward to EvIL vs War Machine. The way Last Pride played, I think that iQ will have a hard time beating them. Te we're pretty crap, dunno what happened

Xanthar

Xanthar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Earls Cendr??e [TEA]

I'm sad to see Val going out of the tournament on the first day, but LuM defeating Te is at least some solace

In any case, tomorrows battles are going to be very interesting indeed! Will we see an all-korean final?

Rieselle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Melbourne, Australia

E/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
...and I'm gonna miss most of it because of work. When's the DVD coming out?!?
It seems like the matches will be available in observer for a while, so maybe you'll get a chance to watch it.

Although.... I must say, GW is really not a spectator game. I wonder what the crowd's reaction was at the live event? Did they have some commentary explaining what was going on? 35 minutes of warriors taking a couple of swings against someone for no visible effect, and then switching targets, along with magical sparkles appearing around people every now and then, again with no obvious indication of what they're supposed to be doing (unless the spectator is savvy enough to work out that purple/green = bad, and blue = good), until the end where one side kills the guild lord during VoD and wins. (speaking about the LuM vs Te games 1 & 2)

Maybe Te's air spike in game 3 was an attempt to do something flashy and obvious, although it backfired pretty badly since they weren't able to spike anyone out at all and mostly just ended up running away and casting blinding flash.

SilentAssassin

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

saw the games, and got to say EVIL will be unbeatable... man they just kicked val its but, to bad I was voting for them

oh well, go LuM !!!

TheOneAndOnlyX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Last Sacrens

N/Me

Anything that represents America is good for me!

trevok

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/Me

You guys do realize that America doesn't mean United States, and means America, as in western hemisphere don't you?

One of the American teams had players from Brazil and Canada.

crimsonfilms

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Its called the American Empire mentality

deal with it

sun is in us

sun is in us

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Organic Soup

Of the Day

Me/

Hmmmmm What Was TE thinking with that all Me team in the 2nd match?

I couldn't help but root for them, but, they seemed to have no coherent strategy once they hit the field.

Still, they still get to do some partying in Taipei

Denny Pace

Denny Pace

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Good Eye Sniper [GeS]

I was shocked at Te's decision to go with the six Me/E, two monk build in the third match, especially after they were so successful with their degen build in game 2. Nearly as shocking was Val's decision to go split team in the beginning of their 2nd game against an incredibly solid team like EviL. That might work against a lesser guild, but not against any of the competitors in Taiwan.

The winners of those two matches are patient teams with solid builds, and are going to be very, very tough in the next round. I am looking forward to seeing what War Machine and iQ are bringing to the party.

I disagree with the comment that Guild Wars isn't much of a spectator game. I found the competitive games to be fascinating and informative. You can learn a lot from watching carefully, and that certainly goes beyond simple individual and team builds. The *way* these teams play together, the team approach to healing and striking, movement within the map, selecting areas within a map to fight, retreat timing... this is good, high-level stuff. It is easy to see why these particular guilds are among the best in the world.

Man, I love this game....

Orbberius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

It's true that if you don't know much about how PvP works, spectator mode can be pretty boring.
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frankly it gets dull seeing the same pressure and spike tactics
That's like saying boy it get's boring seeing the warrior hitting with his axe, or that ele using his skills.

I think it was smart of ANet to implement the auto-camera that moves around and picks the most 'interesting' things. With this, I think even someone who never played GW could appreciate what's going on after some explanation. 'Oh, that person is about to die' 'oh i see, the monk is healing him' Still, it's not like counterstrike or something though, were more people can understand the basics of what's happening straight off the bat.

That said, LuM vs. Te matches 1 and 2 were really fun. I'm rooting for iQ to win it all though, and I can't wait for their match against EviL.

icemonkey

icemonkey

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Join Date: Dec 2005

i think guild wars is so complicated and deep that if you had no pre knowledge no amount of explanation would help them understand what was going on. Theres just too much there. Try to remember the first time you fired up guild wars after you bought it and had no idea what was going on at all, and had to be hand held thru hours of pre searing

Rieselle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Melbourne, Australia

E/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by icemonkey
i think guild wars is so complicated and deep that if you had no pre knowledge no amount of explanation would help them understand what was going on. Theres just too much there. Try to remember the first time you fired up guild wars after you bought it and had no idea what was going on at all, and had to be hand held thru hours of pre searing
I think it would help a little if the spell graphics reflected their purpose a little better. Take Reversal of Fortune - the caster gets a big spikey icon around them, and the target gets some blue sparkles. At least make the target get a energy shield-like graphic, possibly lasting till the next hit takes it off. I think anyone who's played an rpg would then be able to tell at a glance that the monk is protecting the target in some way. Stuff like that.

Oh well, maybe I'm wrong and the whole thing was a big hit with the crowd and they did mexican waves whenever a team got a morale boost. I have no idea, maybe someone who was there can tell us.

Chad

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Oregon

[MB] Moa Birds for life

I've played against all 4 of the guilds remaining.

My prediction: WM vs. iQ Finals

Winner: WM

sun is in us

sun is in us

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Organic Soup

Of the Day

Me/

Ill be giving and taking odds in LA int 1. No markers accepted. I want to see your gold before placing the bet and it will be held by a neutral party.

No Welchers.

I have two Canthan's named Luigi and Marco who will visit your guild hall if you any questions.

Now,

Parlors open.

5:4 WM

2:1 IQ.

Min 1k gets your feet wet...

Whose first?

M3lk0r

M3lk0r

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rieselle
Oh well, maybe I'm wrong and the whole thing was a big hit with the crowd and they did mexican waves whenever a team got a morale boost.
Hehe, I LOL'd at this

One thing I still try and follow is the positioning though. The Koreans can really show that they know the map like their own back hand.

Beat_Go_Stick

Beat_Go_Stick

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Can I be a neutral party? please? :P

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sun is in us
Hmmmmm What Was TE thinking with that all Me team in the 2nd match?

I couldn't help but root for them, but, they seemed to have no coherent strategy once they hit the field.

Still, they still get to do some partying in Taipei
That is what I was thinking as I watched as well.It might of been better the other way around though.

allience

allience

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

i'd like to see IQ win ^^

M3lk0r

M3lk0r

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/Mo

Koreans ftw!

"I told you so" !! (in IRC atleast).

NightOwl

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

I hear that iQ had voice chat troubles. I'll always wonder what would have happened had it worked, if iQ would have won that semi final match vs. eViL. Seems like the type of blight on a competition that Anet would have liked to avoid, where due to a technical issues there is the question who would have won if everything had worked smoothly. I can't help but think that it might have gone the other way.

I'm slightly disappointed in Anet, for not anticipating something like this and preemptively handling it. Perhaps by providing on-site voice chat servers available for use by the teams at no charge, or something.

Guess it doesn't matter though, the game is in the record books. GG eViL, it was well played.

Tortoise

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Daunting Tempest

Mo/

After the regional games it allready became pretty apparent to me that the Korean guilds were the ones that should be feared the most. After seeing the first of WM matches in the regionals I was already rooting for them and I was already doubting any of the American or European teams being able to stop them.

There is no stopping the war machine...
Awesome first match between WM and LuM.

razor39999

razor39999

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Jumping Da Sky [JDS]

I had my hopes high on LuM and they didn't dissapoint me, 'cause the games they played were really hard fought matches, WM didn't go through them easily. All the power to WM and I hope they win!

LordDeArnise

LordDeArnise

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

California, USA

The Elite Knights of Tarnia [PwnD]

EviL will give them a fight, though. However, it looks like WM will win it all for South Korea.

Siliconwafer

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Australia

Shameful Spirits

Quote:
Originally Posted by NightOwl
I hear that iQ had voice chat troubles. I'll always wonder what would have happened had it worked, if iQ would have won that semi final match vs. eViL.
I heard the same thing. It would be good to hear how serious this glitch really was. No doubt that if it was bad, we'll be hearing some raging in the next few days.
IMO, EvIL look stronger than WM. Maybe it's just that I like their build better.

ADD: I quote over from TGH:
Quote:
Originally Posted by sh33p
As for the actual facts; they both had voice communication, IQ said after the match they found it difficult to hear because of the crowd noise. Note to Anet, noise cancelling headphones are a great invention, other than that it was the same for all the teams, if you're a pro gamer you're supposed to deal with it.

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

lol, that voice chat explain the hesitation I see on both teams.

EvIL end up with more advantage since they had fought earlier to know the voice chat problem. iQ on the other hand... too bad, better luck next time.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Nothing against korean but if war machine wins I'm going to be very mad. They get paid by sponsers to play this game. No other guild has anything like that and have to play on their own free time. Doesn't that seem a little unfair?

Kind of like the pro league vs the college teams.

Also notice that the coverage from guildwars main site has no pre-game interviews with any euro or american teams. Money runs everything. Seems even so in video game competitions.

allience

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
Nothing against korean but if war machine wins I'm going to be very mad. They get paid by sponsers to play this game. No other guild has anything like that and have to play on their own free time. Doesn't that seem a little unfair?

Kind of like the pro league vs the college teams.

Also notice that the coverage from guildwars main site has no pre-game interviews with any euro or american teams. Money runs everything. Seems even so in video game competitions.
i very much agree with u. seems that real money makes everything go round...