Question bout Necrotic armor

Xeuro

Xeuro

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/N

Yo, just firstly wanted to ask, with the 15k Necrotic armor, does the +5 to holy damage stack?

So for example, will i take +20 holy damage because of the four pieces or is it +5 regardless of how many pieces i have?

Celain

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

+20 ftl

Xeuro

Xeuro

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/N

ah man that blows...i really liked the look of the 15k Necrotic armor

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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attacks are boxed right? so it'd be +5 for whatever piece hit, not global, go get a second opinion from someone who's tested it

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

No, it's +5 each, globablly stacking. I have 3 pieces and it's +15 for me. As in, symbol of wrath does 22 + 15 = 37 damage.

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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k, if you can't believe the mods who can you...that suck majorly btw

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Good thing, especially in pve, there isn't much holy dmg being done.

Xeuro

Xeuro

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/N

well my necro is an MM for PvE and an Orders Necro for PvP...Haven't reallly done the PvP part yet but am working on it

So would i really face any holy damage in the PvE or PvP environment? I guess i really just dont know if there are smite teams in HA...

sledgeunderhill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Gathering of Friends [GoF]

Holy Damage appears in several places in PvE.

All the Cacti (aloe seed variants) have some form of retribution or reflected holy damage. Several nightmares have holy damage. The Bane Signet attack by the Charr shamen are holy damage. Griffons in the Southern Shiverpeaks use AoE holy attacks.

These all have holy damage but can be avoided for the most part.

In PvP, I have limited experience, but it appears that smiting is on the rise.

This being said, my necromancer only has one set of armor - tormentors. If I were serious about taking them into PvP, I'd get a set of armor with piercing damage reduction for swap when facing rangers.

Haggard

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

its really not that bad, if something uses retribution or holy wrath, just use spells and dont staff/wand it, and you shouldnt be standing next to blessed griffons anyway. the +10 AL does really make up for it in my opinion

Dwiggit

Dwiggit

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Heroes Unlimited (HaCK)

R/Mo

Just watch out for Judges Insight in PvP.

An E/Mo running air spike with Judges on is LETHAL to Necros with Necrotic.
(10% air penetration + 10% Judges penetration + holy damage = HOLY COW!)

500 hp down to zero in about 8 seconds.
I've experienced it on my Necro.

Dwig

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by sledgeunderhill
This being said, my necromancer only has one set of armor - tormentors. If I were serious about taking them into PvP, I'd get a set of armor with piercing damage reduction for swap when facing rangers.
I'm sure sledge knows this, but as an FYI to anyone else reading this thread: Tormentor's is the same as Necrotic, in that you get added damage from holy attacks.

Also I think that monks should have an armor that has +damage to shadow/dark damage attacks to make it fair but that's just me hatin' ...

sledgeunderhill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Gathering of Friends [GoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwiggit
Just watch out for Judges Insight in PvP.

An E/Mo running air spike with Judges on is LETHAL to Necros with Necrotic.
(10% air penetration + 10% Judges penetration + holy damage = HOLY COW!)

500 hp down to zero in about 8 seconds.
I've experienced it on my Necro.

Dwig
Something is off about this statement:

Judges Insight gives 20% armor penetration on "attacks" - of which spells are not considered. Additionally, the armor penetration of some lightning spells is 25%. If an E/Mo was doing both, the penetration would not stack as the JI is not supposed to impact spells.

If stacking is actually occurring, then there are problems and inaccuracies in the spell descriptions.

However, a ranger doing the standard spike with JI on would be quite deadly vs a necromancer wearing these armor classes. That is why I suggested getting the other class armor for PvP, since rangers tend to be quite popular in the arenas.

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

I also just have Tormentor and play my necro in pvp sometimes.
Very rarely you see holly damge there also.
So I guess it does not matter.

Xeuro

Xeuro

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/N

hmmm.... i still cant decide if i should switch to 15k Necrotic or just stick with my Fanatics (I am thinkin bout makin a new char so possibly ill just save the money for him).

Thx for all ur help guys

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

There's no question, the +10AL is a huge help. You just need to be aware of the various enemy types and/or spells that deal Holy damage. In PvE, you don't need to change armor when facing these enemies, just be aware, and adjust your strategy accordingly.

In PvP, two (or more) sets of armor would be a good idea.