I saw a level 22 player

Synthos

Synthos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Is this a bug? Someone in my group was level 22! Thats not part of the missions anywhere is it? Im just slightly confused. I didnt notice untill after the person disconnected and i took a quick screenie

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iotc247

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Its got to be a bug because how can it not say his professions. Notice it just says Lvl 22 not W/Mo22 or something else?

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

it's likely connected to his sudden disonnect. It's not unusal for strange things to happen during a sudden disconnect in any game.

Theneler

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

No I've seen that before. One group i was in once, had two ppl, that just had names. Not classes or anything, but they weren't LD, cus they did the whole mission with us.

Synthos

Synthos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Possible exploit you suppose? What level were they?

sgtcurly

sgtcurly

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

Were they by chance NPC's?

I am not that far in the game, but maybe that is what it is...NPS's


sgtcurly

Mimu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

England, UK

Call of Destiny [call]

I just opened that in a paint program and zoomed in..I don't think it's fake, and if it is it's a bloody good one.

It's most likely a bug, as if it was an npc it would have been under allies rather than party members.

Edit: Sorry for trying that, but I like to be certain..of course I did not mean to imply you would lie to us like that.

Second Edit: I just realised..it can't be an npc anyway, as they do not often make a habit of disconnecting.

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

I think he was asking if it could have been a henchman. At any rate, if it were, it would have had thier class and (hencman) next to the name; i.e lv3 Mo Alesa (Healer Henchman). Furthermore i dont recognize that name as any of the henchmen.

Synthos

Synthos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

nah.. i have the whole screenshot if you want to see it.

Its sort of a wierd shot, lol.. The camera was kinda in a mountain a bit but yeah.
here.

Palidor

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

GC

Mo/Me

It's somekind of bug with the disconnecting.. I saw the same thing, lvl 28 after the player got d/c.

Could it be that the game counts the lvl over the 20 (from the gained exp) but always shows it just 20 to the players?

Mimu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

England, UK

Call of Destiny [call]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Madjik
I think he was asking if it could have been a henchman. At any rate, if it were, it would have had thier class and (hencman) next to the name; i.e lv3 Mo Alesa (Healer Henchman). Furthermore i dont recognize that name as any of the henchmen.
It's not often that a henchman disconnects in the middle of a mission.

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimu
It's not often that a henchman disconnects in the middle of a mission.
You were answering sgtcurly's question, I was stating what i belive curly's question to be. Allies and henchmen dont appear in the same place on the player window. This was before your posts edits.

Ooooh, I wouldnt say they dont disconnect often btw. They seem to like taking a break for a few hours and hiding inside mountains. Thats close enough in my book

Manderlock

Manderlock

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

TX

Crimson ScS

W/N

I was going to come in here claiming the OP was a fool, but after seeing who it was (synthos is not someone that would just make something up) and seeing that it was not "paint shoped" I will not.

I think that Palidor hit the nail on the head. Its a bug that will show the lvl you could be if the lvl cap wasent 20. Only thing i can think of.

xxstalker24xx

xxstalker24xx

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

It could be people working for Arenanet or Ncsoft because they probable would be put up to a high rank above everybody else and with the best stuff or it could be a bug.

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxstalker24xx
It could be people working for Arenanet or Ncsoft because they probable would be put up to a high rank above everybody else and with the best stuff or it could be a bug.
I love the random guesswork. Why would they do that? That'd just infuriate people, and they're smarter than that. Most likely it keeps track of levels beyond 20 (for the purpose of skill points?) and only displays it if you disconnect or through a bug.

JAGeAkurei

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

The Dark Side of The Moon

DEUS

the should put character level (Skill level) in brackets next to it, would look kinda spiff,


cause what about us nuts who have done every secondary class quest, and can use every spec line/skill at will cause we're so lazy we farmed up that many skill points.....

not like I'd use my ele/war but I could lol

that and it'd just look funny to see, 20(900)

(Note: Yes I have entirely too much free time, and no I don't have every skill on 1 char yet, but getting there fast)

The IOU

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Guild of Night

Mo/E

Maybe Arena developers they are testing the cap when they raise it LOL

Levian Lain

Levian Lain

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

The Icehawks

E/Mo

It's probably an NPC.

In certain parts of the game, you can team up with Devona, Mhenlo, Aidan, and Cynn. They don't have [henchman] or their class next to their names.

Though, the disconnect is odd. Maybe your team leader kicked them out?

primal98

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Don't henchmen usually have Name[TYPE OF HENCHMEN HERE]

Kordesh

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I'm going to say it's not an NPC for a specific reason. NPCs get a special place on your party bar. They go into the Allies section at the bottom. The only thing I can think of is perhaps if the game reads your "true" level when you disconnect. What I mean by true level is this.

you hit lvl 20. now you gain exp twards skill points.

After 1 skill point is earned, your "true level" as the game sees it at least, is lvl 21. After 2 skill points it's 22, and so on and so forth.

Also, henchmen don't go over 20 as far as I'm aware, and they would have their class and such next to them. When was the last time a henchmen disconnected or ditched your group anyway?

Dreamsmith

Dreamsmith

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Minnesota

Beguine Guild [BGN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Levian Lain
It's probably an NPC.

In certain parts of the game, you can team up with Devona, Mhenlo, Aidan, and Cynn. They don't have [henchman] or their class next to their names.
They also don't appear in your list as party members. They either appear under the "Allies" section, or not at all. The only people or NPCs that appear in the party members list are ones you recruited in town before entering the mission.

Quote:
Though, the disconnect is odd. Maybe your team leader kicked them out?
You can't kick people out except in town, in which case it just removes them from the list, it doesn't leave them in but greyed out.

The IOU

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Guild of Night

Mo/E

......

Dreamsmith

Dreamsmith

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Minnesota

Beguine Guild [BGN]

Kai Sa is a player. In fact, he's a level 20 W/R, currently standing in the Thirsty River staging area, and he's a member of the guild XLAW. (Just call me Dreamsmith, P.I. )

It must have been a disconnect bug...

Narcissus

Narcissus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

North Carolina, USA

Evolution

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Levian Lain
It's probably an NPC.

In certain parts of the game, you can team up with Devona, Mhenlo, Aidan, and Cynn. They don't have [henchman] or their class next to their names.

Though, the disconnect is odd. Maybe your team leader kicked them out?
Devona, Mhenlo, Aidan, and Cynn never go above level 20. They show up in the primary party because they are Henchman. Anyone npcs that join your group that arent henchman go in an "ally section" at the bottom of the list.

Phantom Force

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

New York

W/Mo

I played AC2 for quite sometime before all the nerfing they did the very first time which messed with people's characters and many people left the game. However, before all that occurred randomly in groups doing missions we would run across a Dev or someone involved with testing and doing things with the game. In this case we were in a PvP zone and he challenged us. In AC2 our whole group went after him and he sat there and laughed. We couldn't hurt him then he killed us all. I'm not saying that this happened here, but just saying it could be a possibility. Who knows but I will agree with the bug idea until we actually see or hear more about characters with a level higher than 20.

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

roflmao... i would love to bury some of the GW devs...

Jackathan

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I always hated it when henchmen disconnected on me right before I finished a mission

B@!T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

My bet: The engine continues to count levels up to a higher level cap, just in case of a future level cap increase, but until then labels the player as 20. When he disconnected, the game stopped displaying the class and level label for a moment and you saw level he could actually be.

So I guess I agree with the general consensus.

Leondrea Alexis

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Maybe there's a cheat code....

varyag

varyag

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wrath of Nature [Fury]

Me/Mo

The character name was "Lvl 22 Kai Sa" notice how the L is capitalized.

Too easy and not worthy of a thread. Sigh.

Mimu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

England, UK

Call of Destiny [call]

Quote:
Originally Posted by varyag
The character name was "Lvl 22 Kai Sa" notice how the L is capitalized.

Too easy and not worthy of a thread. Sigh.
The 't' is capitalized for the ally as well, there is no level displayed for him if what you said is true..and I trust Dreamsmith when he says he saw the player.

Gh0sT

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by varyag
The character name was "Lvl 22 Kai Sa" notice how the L is capitalized.

Too easy and not worthy of a thread. Sigh.
That would mean my bear which is name:

Lvl 20 Pet Tedz is also fake... OMG i got a 1337 hax0r pet...

Na i think like the rest its just that it keeps on counting... and i think for a good reason, because (IIRC) you need more xp for the "virtual" lvl 22 then for the "virtual" lvl 21 ... so the levels have to have different names for the game to keep them apart... so the game keeps counting but for us it stops at 20...

Dreamsmith

Dreamsmith

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Minnesota

Beguine Guild [BGN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by varyag
The character name was "Lvl 22 Kai Sa" notice how the L is capitalized.
So you're saying there's a hack out that allows players to bypass the character name rules (digits are not allowed in a character name)? Also, how'd he get rid of the "W/R20" that should preceed his character name? And what does the capitalization have to do with it? It's capitalized the same way it always is (see the entry for the pet, for example).

No, I believe it's the same Kai Sa I saw earlier today, standing around in the Thirsty River staging area trying to get picked up for a group. And he's only level 20. Obviously, there's a display bug that can occur when you disconnect sometimes. It may even be as some have suggested: he's filled his XP bar twice and gotten two more skill points since reaching level 20, and somehow that fact becomes visible if you disconnect under the right circumstances. Should go back and ask him...

kaya

kaya

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

NBK

just fyi i just talked to him just a sec ago. lol! very nice guy. i figured he was chinese cause of his name, and i know a little so i asked him what lvl he was. he's lvl 20 and he said he's lvl'd twice since he's been lvl 20. and he is indeed a warrior. that's about all i understood.

PieXags

PieXags

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Infinite Representation Of Pie And Its Many Brilliances

Yeah it was a bug true enough, a cool bug though. One time some guy asked me to party up in Kryta and it said he was a lvl 1 r/e, obviously I declined this party invitation while pondering about how the hell someone like that was even here, as it's impossible to be that far at lvl 1...then he joined up and was lvl 16, go figure.

Neat though, if nothing else.

Ginko

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

The Illuminati

It's numbers, doesn't actually mean he's level 22.

I think this thread should be closed, the correct information has been layed down and now everything else drifting is little chit-chat.

--Ginko

leviathan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom Force
I played AC2 for quite sometime before all the nerfing they did the very first time which messed with people's characters and many people left the game. However, before all that occurred randomly in groups doing missions we would run across a Dev or someone involved with testing and doing things with the game. In this case we were in a PvP zone and he challenged us. In AC2 our whole group went after him and he sat there and laughed. We couldn't hurt him then he killed us all. I'm not saying that this happened here, but just saying it could be a possibility. Who knows but I will agree with the bug idea until we actually see or hear more about characters with a level higher than 20.
no its a bug.

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsmith
Kai Sa is a player. In fact, he's a level 20 W/R, currently standing in the Thirsty River staging area, and he's a member of the guild XLAW. (Just call me Dreamsmith, P.I. )

It must have been a disconnect bug...
Like i said in my first post, its a disconnect bug, dreamsmith here basically confirms it by spotting before mentioned player.

Not a dev, ally, npc or anything else. Just a simple error caused by a sudden disconnect. Plain and simple.

Phantium

Phantium

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

Europe United [EU]

W/Mo

Mine would show 30+ then, but it probably won't happen to me. :P

TEFFalcon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimu
I just opened that in a paint program and zoomed in..I don't think it's fake, and if it is it's a bloody good one.

It's most likely a bug, as if it was an npc it would have been under allies rather than party members.

Edit: Sorry for trying that, but I like to be certain..of course I did not mean to imply you would lie to us like that.

Second Edit: I just realised..it can't be an npc anyway, as they do not often make a habit of disconnecting.
They coule reverse engineer the game and pull out the font.