55 monks - Are they worth it?

kc99

kc99

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Scotland

Renaissance Desire

R/Mo

I Have just recently ascended my monk which i created for the sole purpose of becoming an infamous 55!

I Have saved up enough gold to go and buy the runes and have all the other equipment i need but now the question i need asked is, should i bother?
I already have a warrior which i use for farming griffons and stuff to fund my main char (my ranger) and i kinda created this monk on a whim.

I dont want to play the healer as i have tried it and i'm not good at it and can't get into it. So really what am asking is should i keep my gold and do other stuff and delete this char?
Or keep him and make the 55 , is there something i will miss out on if i don't?

I think the only thing that would annoy me is the time spent on him and capping the elites etc if i were to delete him.

So the final question is- ARE THEY WORTH IT?

darkMishkin

darkMishkin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Mo/

Save your gold for fun things in chapter 2.

LiQuId StEeL

LiQuId StEeL

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

/u/liquidsteel30

Ego Trip From Rank [ZERO]

W/Mo

I agree. I deleted my farming stuff months ago, and haven't missed it a bit. Not wort the time, and with the promised skill balance looming, who knows how nerfed these moronic monks will be.

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

sure! i'm selling my stuff! buy mine!

Wammo's are way cheaper. monks are harder to run.

xxSilhouette

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

R/Rt

I created a 55 monk, which i havent deleted - i have two sets of armor, one for 55ing and one for protecting/actually playing the game - anyhow - they have nerfed the farming in the main place that monks farm, outside the desert - but i make an average of 1-2k still from each farming run and have gotten a few gold drops. I used to farm SF with henchies and would speand 2 or 3 hours at a time making 1k and getting one green drop if i was lucky - so i do make more money faster from the 55 monk.

A lot of people stoped using this build though, and if you really don't like being a healer i would suggest deleted and saving your money as well - beacuse unless you get a straight run to the desert you are going to have to be in groups and heal or protect just to get to the desert.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by kc99
So the final question is- ARE THEY WORTH IT?
Hard to say. I made myself a 55 monk about a month ago, to test it out, and first I was deathly impressed (soloing 8 hydras!!!1one!eleven Whoo!), but I soon realized it's really a very limited build. It tanks sustained physical damage a little bit worse and spike damage and degen considerably better than an axe W/Mo, but kills slower (using Shield of Judgement), so ideally you want a second player with you to help with the killing (e.g. a necromancer arcane-echoing Spiteful Spirit).

Yeah, they farm minotaurs and griffons and trolls well, although not as well as that axe W/Mo, and are better against giants and UW monsters like Aatxe than the W/Mo, but if you ever come across an enemy with shatter enchant, you're toast.

Plus if you're like me you'll occasionally tend to forget casting Protective Spirit and then you die. Really, really, quickly.

As for me, I had the money and I was curious to see how 55 monks handled, so for me it was worth it. Your Mileage May Vary.

Vhayr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Malice Nights [MN]

A/Me

I made my Monk primarily for 55ing, however I really got into actually being a Monk, if that makes sense. I still farm, and I bought a set of Fissure armour with the money I made from 55ing, so for me it payed off.

AxeMe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Atlanta

HEX

W/

Mostly it depends on whether or not you enjoy farming with a 55 monk. I do so I continue (the people who say that many of the old farming runs have been nerfed are correct). But, when I need gold in the game, the 55 does a pretty fair job. I use a w/mo to farm griffons (it's faster than my 55 on that run and also has less problems with enchantment stripping there). But - for instance - with the hydras, the 55 monk does a really fast job of clearing things out.

But the 55 monk is no longer so powerful that it's a necessity. So it becomes a matter of preference. I think it's worth a slot for my style play.

kc99

kc99

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Scotland

Renaissance Desire

R/Mo

Thanks for the input so far guys.

I guess what it boils down to also is what can the 55 do my warrior can't?
Sure he can tackle the UW solo with a lot of practise but is it really THAT much more profitable than say farming from augury?

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

unless you can spend hours to pay for the runes and -50 icon, no.

KANE OG

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

W/

Just got my Monk Ascended last week, then henched it thru to the Fire Islands. What a blast! I seem to have a great build for Smite and Heal (Mo/Me), but the main reason I created the character was for a 55. I think I'll just stick with my Warrior for farming, the investment in new tats and runes isn't worth it to me right now. Somewhere along the line I may pick up the necessary things, but for now I'm having too much fun. I wouldn't recommend deleting your character tho, we're supposed to get at least one more slot, and I'd say give the Monk another go at Smite/Prot/Heal.

darkMishkin

darkMishkin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kc99
UW solo ... really THAT much more profitable than say farming from augury?
Ecto sells with a lot less effort than gold unidentified swords.







well, it used to...

Hudson Teh Angered

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Birmingham, UK

Bananer I Pyjamas

W/Mo

Well i think there totally worth it. If it wasnt for my 55hp I wouldnt have over 4 sets of 15k armour, Amazing items greens and golds alike. Ok its been nerfed alot but even when we dont have favour or i give up, i just use it for bonding or healing. Monks are just easy going class tbh if you really cba to concentrate that much go bonder, if you can go 55hp. Monks are so sought after its great you never have to wait long to get a team

Yakumo

Yakumo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

Hearts Of Fury [HoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Plus if you're like me you'll occasionally tend to forget casting Protective Spirit and then you die. Really, really, quickly.
LOL... That's what I tend to do as well.

Personally, I should have saved the money and just use my warrior for farming. I find the 55 monk less forgiving if I forget or get interrupted while casting Healing Breeze or Protective Spirit. If a devourer joins the fun, then I'm pretty much a goner!

With my warrior (using an all-warrior build), it's more relaxing and less hectic. It's not quick, but if I forget or get interrupted, it's no big deal. I can take on 6 minotaurs/griffons, and if 2 devourers gatecrash the party, it doesn't worry me the slightest.

Maybe my monk will server me well in other areas.

m30wc0w

m30wc0w

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

FERRET LAND

R/Me

I don't like 55 monks. They suck at dealing damage and monk armour isn't my taste. I prefer the 55 Mesmer much more as they can deal damage a lot better.

tuna-fish_sushi

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

55monks rock so easy to use they are versatile
easy to do missions because people are always
looking for healer monks and even at low levels
it is easy to power level yourself. Spent about
10k on runes a while back and have easily made
over 500k gold.

ap47

ap47

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sweden

Mo/

I got a 55 Mo/N and I dont regret making it. However, I also use him for regular monking and if it's only a matter of making money I don't think it's worth it. What I like about it is that you can solo farm some otherwise very difficult areas like UW and Dreadnought's. Haven't done much duo farming in UW though, so I don't really know how profitable that may be in the long run.

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

I honestly suggest saving your money for Factions. In the long run, a 55 build does pay off. But you have to do quite a bit of farming to really profit from it. The usual profit from 55 Monks' runs are from selling common item drops to the merchant, building up stacks of Griffon Wings and Minotaur Horns, then selling those. So on average, a typical Griffon run yields about 800g-1k, and takes roughly 3-5 minutes. The runs I would do on my monk take about 10-12 minutes, but would yield 2.5-3k. These runs get very tedious, and really aren't fun to me anymore. Also, another thing to consider, once Factions comes out the focus will not be so much on farming as it will be playing the storyline once again. So again, I suggest saving your gold and build it up further for Factions. (Just as a tip, get teams for Tombs or SF, you can make considerable profit from the green items there).

sno

sno

Look into the Eye.

Join Date: Oct 2005

Detroit, Mi

Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]

Mo/

I completely disagree with most of these posts. 2man farming UW is not only relatively easy, but it makes money VASTLY faster than almost any other farming method (with the possible exception of low-man FoW farming.) With a fairly simple strategy (slow, taking it easy) you can do a smite run in 30 minutes or so, which will get an average of 1 ecto per person, plus ~1-2k in cash (merchant) and some rare items (which can be worth a lot.) With a polished build you can do the same run in ~15 minutes, which would be ~4 ectos per hour. In far less than a day you can make back all the money you spent creating the 55hp monk.

It's all in what you like though, I suppose.

apocalypse_xx

apocalypse_xx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/Me

55 Monks are worth every penny...they can effectively farm almost any mob in the game, many people under estimate their power. As far as Factions go, I see no reason why my 55 monk won't be solo ing most of that new world as well. Acquiring large sums of gold in this game require farming, so the debate is not whether 55 monking is boring or not...farming can be very boring, but since you inquired I am assuming you are aware of that already. To be perfectly frank, it is because of the versatility of my 55 monk that I DO NOT get bored with farming...just use your imagination and have fun with him/her...BTW I have 2 sets of armor and can play very well the roles of protection and or healer which I also very much enjoy, and most times I still use a sup rune or two in those roles....so, worth it?? YOU BET!!!

xxSilhouette

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

R/Rt

It really didn't take that long for me to get my monk to level 20 and get the icon. Maybe about 1 week and a half - and the stuff did cost quite a bit but i have made it back and made so so much more.

I see a lot of people saying to save your cash for factions, which may be a good idea, but at the same time you could probley make the money back and more rather quickly. Just depends on how much time you have.

I do think its a great build. Even though they nerfed it and the drops arent as great as they once were - You will make tons more quicker than you would farming with henchies.

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

Quote:
I Have just recently ascended my monk which i created for the sole purpose of becoming an infamous 55!

I Have saved up enough gold to go and buy the runes and have all the other equipment i need but now the question i need asked is, should i bother?
I already have a warrior which i use for farming griffons and stuff to fund my main char (my ranger) and i kinda created this monk on a whim.

I dont want to play the healer as i have tried it and i'm not good at it and can't get into it. So really what am asking is should i keep my gold and do other stuff and delete this char?
Or keep him and make the 55 , is there something i will miss out on if i don't?

I think the only thing that would annoy me is the time spent on him and capping the elites etc if i were to delete him.

So the final question is- ARE THEY WORTH IT?

Dude you worked ya butt off to finnally get your 55 monk. And now you doubting yourself in getting a few capped elites, i say wow..

kc99

kc99

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Scotland

Renaissance Desire

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by fiery
Dude you worked ya butt off to finnally get your 55 monk. And now you doubting yourself in getting a few capped elites, i say wow..
No i have already capped the elites if thats what you mean? I just meant the time spent capping them would have been wasted if i deleted this char.

I played on him last night and think i may keep him (still hate healing though) but if i decide to get rid of him if they do nerf them, then i could always salvage and sell the runes.

But the main thing about the thread was just to find out from you guys if you thought a 55 was worth all the investment when i already have a warrior who farms nicely for me.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Started heal/protect monk, then going the route of 55hp can farm and still working on two more sup runes to go. I've been able to unlock a ton of weapon upgrades and some runes and getting tons of skill points for use with unlocking other classes.

I find monk fun for both pve and farming and can switch back in forth between the two. I messed the "always" can always get in to a party w/ my ele and the Aoe change, so by making a monk, I can easily still get in to parties. I do have an odd functional heal / protect build that seems to work pretty well. kc99, PM me if your curious or check out the monk fourms and healers build.

capblueberry

capblueberry

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Lexington, SC

Grenths Mercenaries[DEAD]

they're worth is definately

linkid

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

ETGD

N/Mo

I think a Mo/x having an armor set with 5 superior runes is worth it in my opinion. If you matched up the runes correctly (one set chest has superior heal, the other minor, etc) and used the superior runes on Droknar's armor, you can easily switch between a normal prot monk, heal monk, smite, and 55. If you like playing monk as heal/prot/smite like I did, then the only real extra spending was 2 armor pieces and 2 superior runes (1 divine and one cheapest). But then I made my when it was about half the price per rune... still I think it's worth it.

3lite

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Texas

N/A

Mo/

ultimatly its well worth it...specailly if u farm uw with a guildie that way profit stays in guild, and also not only do u make a profit, u gain loads of xp and skill points

SamGad

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

X-Universe

W/Me

I created a Mo/W specificly for farming, having got fed up of my original char, a W/R, having minimal farming abilities...
After a few months of 55ing, and getting progressively more bored of it...
I switched back to my W/R, changed him to a W/Me, knocked together my own farming build and my monks been resigned to gathering dust and the occasional guild trip ever since...
Personally i'd say, give it a go, it's certainly a change from warrior farming...
Worst come to the worst...
You've unlocked some new skills for pvp...

Apple

Apple

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/Mo

It's WELL worth it. I've made at least 20-30 times the amount i spent on my runes etc using my 55hp monk. I have also ENJOYED myself doing it. There is so much versatility in farming with a 55hp monk! I mean, you can farm fog nightmares, Ice Imps, Ettins, Griffons, Smites/Aatxes/Dryders etc, Charr, Undead. Well, anything that isnt shattery-enchantery (but you can even do THAT if you use cover enchants like vig. spirit!) or life-stealingy. Or knockdowny.

S_Serpent

S_Serpent

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

When not at Aziure's Wizard Tower you can find my in Belgium

Knigths of the Keyboard Order - KkO

I have a primary char E/Mo so I could do the 55Mo with it, but I rather like the solo earth farming build and can tackle easily 10 hydra's, so guildies witnessed this already, and where speechless for a moment. And get easily 2k per run (I don't need the weapons, salvaging is my thing and really brings in the gold to, easier to sell on the run - so no hastle to get thing sold and lots of storage room free) and OBSIDIAN FLESH so rocks.

Got a 15k armorset (wont go for the FoW ele armor, simply that it isnt beautifull IMHO), but got all green ele items in the game. And currently saving up money for Factions.



But for primary monk, I recently started one, simply because I won't a monk ready for gvg, because that is something our guild could use.
And since I'm use to be a supporting role in with my ele, a monk isn't that difficult to switch. Tried water monking with the ele, so primary monk is working fine for me too.

I hope I didn't make to my spellingerrors, english isn't my primary language, and if so you can always pm, that way I learn even more