15 Attrib Point Quests: The Factions Pandora's Box

SisterMercy

SisterMercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sisters of Mercy

I don't think this has been raised yet, but will Factions have 2 more Attribute Point quests?

This presents some dilemma, because it will be unfair to Factions buyers not to have them in their portion of the game, and would certainly be one good motive for merging accounts.

But my concern is that if Factions gives merged accounts only one or even two additional slots, many will choose not to do so... leaving those who do with a clear unbalanced advantage.

Unless there is a cap placed on the number of bonus attribute point quests you can do. But again, there would go one reason to merge the accounts.

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

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the max attribute points will still be 200. Characters now already say 185/200 I think.

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

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Yeah, because you haven't done both of your 15 point attribute quests...

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

I'd imagine the characters will be flagged as Prophecies and Factions secretly (not just which one you're currently in), and that Factions will include it's own +15 attribute point quests, with both possessing a check to see if you've already done the other chapter's version. Either that, or you'll be able to do both, and the points will simply cap at 200 anyway (Like being healed for more than your max health; Everything extra is just lost.).

Markaedw

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

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I guess the question is: Will GW:Factions only characters be able to obtain 200 attribute points? In Prophecies we get 170 points from leveling and 30 from the 2 ascention required quests. If factions has someting like that will Propheicies characters be able to get them also making us have 230, and will this mean that we, that have both accounts become overpowered?

But then again why not, I bought both games, I added the key, I sacrificed the extra slots. If I am willing to grind through both games why should I get a benifit from it? Why not, if I keep Diana Dragonhart for chapters 20 or beyond, should I not eventually be able to max out all skill attributes?

Lets face it, we kind of have that now. A person that has enough xp, skillpoints and money can buy all the skills for one character.

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

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You wont be able to max all skill attributes. I am 100% sure it will cap at 200.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

I'm going to have to agree with Mandy on this.

It will just have a cap. They probably will have the quests, and you can go do them, but you won't get 230, you'll be capped at 200, and all you'll get is the xp reward.

For all we know, they may even make it that you can't get the quest because you already have 200 att points, it will be like talking to the other NPCs for these quests, if you aren't elligible to receive them, they'll tell you. If you already have 200 att points, they'll probably let you know that you are already at your full potential and they can't help you get any higher.

ump

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Since we're guessing anyways, I suspect that the new tutorial area in factions will be inaccessible to characters made in Chapter 1. Since all the shared material is likely intended for level 20 characters with maximum attributes, then in the new tutorial area, it should be possible to "ascend" and become level 20 with 200 attribute points.

drowningfish999

drowningfish999

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Awakened Tempest [aT]

I'm sure it'll be like Mercury said, you will get all the rewards for completing the quest other than the 15 attribute points.

TheMosesPHD

TheMosesPHD

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

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Ya I'm wondering what the storyline will be for Factions version of ascension and I'm also wondering if there will be something similar to infusion for the last missions. Infusion is only there just to be a hassle anyway, so hopefully not. I don't want to have to double infuse every time I go buy a new piece of armor.

antialias02

antialias02

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Eastern Iowa

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There won't have to be infusion if there's no Mursaat using that blasted skill....

DJvirusz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Hierarchy

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i have a qeustion...in which quest do u get the second 15 attribute points?
I know 1 is in the dessert ( ihave done it) but i do not know which 1 is the other 15 attribute point quest!
can anybody help me plz

acidic artist

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by DJvirusz
i have a qeustion...in which quest do u get the second 15 attribute points?
I know 1 is in the dessert ( ihave done it) but i do not know which 1 is the other 15 attribute point quest!
can anybody help me plz

u have to do atleast 1 of the secondary profession quests from the desert in order to activate the 2nd quest from vanyi in droknars

TheMosesPHD

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by antialias02
There won't have to be infusion if there's no Mursaat using that blasted skill....
Yah I know that but since the infusion for Guild Wars Core is just a big hassle they put at the end of the game, I was wondering if they'd create some other form of annoying hassle at the end of the Factions Campaigns. Not neccesarily infusion.

drowningfish999

drowningfish999

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Awakened Tempest [aT]

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD
Yah I know that but since the infusion for Guild Wars Core is just a big hassle they put at the end of the game, I was wondering if they'd create some other form of annoying hassle at the end of the Factions Campaigns. Not neccesarily infusion.
Infusion isn't so much of a hassle since the patches that made only 1 trip necessary, but I agree it did go kinda overboard. I hope this time if there is some sort of "infusion" they plan ahead.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

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Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ump
Since we're guessing anyways, I suspect that the new tutorial area in factions will be inaccessible to characters made in Chapter 1. Since all the shared material is likely intended for level 20 characters with maximum attributes, then in the new tutorial area, it should be possible to "ascend" and become level 20 with 200 attribute points.
The tutorial area is pre-searing, and it's a pretty safe bet chapter 1 chars wont be able to go to chapter 2 tutorial area or vice versa.

I strongly doubt the ch2 equivalent to pre-searing will allow you to reach lvl 20 and 200 attribute, though, as that'd mean the Cantha area available to ch1 chars will be miniscule, while the ch2 chars will have free range of the whole post-sear Tyrian continent.

How they'll make it so that the whole of Cantha isn't explored & exploited by maxed-out lvl 20 chars from ch1 before the first ch2 char has even left the tutorial area, remains to be seen.

96TSi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Fort Worth

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

How they'll make it so that the whole of Cantha isn't explored & exploited by maxed-out lvl 20 chars from ch1 before the first ch2 char has even left the tutorial area, remains to be seen.
this will be done by thousands of nerds the day it comes out lol


im just curious to see how the economy will bounce around when ch2 comes out. what worthless but cool looking item will go for outragous price first heh

Evan The Cursed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD
Yah I know that but since the infusion for Guild Wars Core is just a big hassle they put at the end of the game, I was wondering if they'd create some other form of annoying hassle at the end of the Factions Campaigns. Not neccesarily infusion.
I wouldn't be surprised, now that you bring it up...

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

maybe some water-breathing ritual

DJvirusz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Hierarchy

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Quote:
Originally Posted by acidic artist
u have to do atleast 1 of the secondary profession quests from the desert in order to activate the 2nd quest from vanyi in droknars
what is the name of the secondary profession quest or with who do i have to talk to to get the quest?