Everybody seems to have a different idea of how the anti-farm code works. So:
A. Is there a reliable guide?
B. If not, what are your thoughts?
Questions include:
1. How many times can you farm the same area before it kicks in?
2. If it kicks in, how much of what else do you have to do to reset it?
3. If it's on for anybody in a group, is it on for everybody in a group?
4. How extreme do you have to be to set it off in the first place?
I know that to get the anti-farming pop-up window, you have to be pretty extreme. Indeed, I've only gotten it once. But I don't know whether the code has been nerfing my drops anyway.
As for avoiding setting it off -- does dying suffice? How about mapping to a different city than you left from? (Although letting it be beaten that easily would be silly, frankly.) The one time I got the pop-up message, I was walking outside, killing one monster, walking back to the city, and repeating. (Somebody was offering me 1 platinum per spiny seed, and I wanted some for myself anyway.)
Anti-farm code
Francis Crawford
Loviatar
you have to farm a small repetive area heavily to get the warning.there is a second warning shortly (maybe 3-5 runs) after that saying the monsters will run out of loot.
do the whole zone every few runs.
if you get the first warning farm somewhere else for 24 hours to play safe
dying or zoneing from a different area does not clear it.
this is ANTI BOT not anti farmer.
the reason you trigger it is that you are doing it so bot like it kicks in
Sirkaze
If you do a mission the code restarts and farm in diffent places that works :P i have tested this and works very well i farm for an hour or so then help people on a mission then farm ettins then i go back to griffen farming
SnipiousMax
I've never seen this, ever. But I have several places I like to farm with three characters. Variety is the spice of life...and the Anti-Anti-farm.
Venenatus Ensis
yeah its pretty handy and should help out with the new "supply and demand" system that the frogs says is coming out. This way certain items aren't as common as they are now to find. Also, Sirkaze is right, if you do a mission, the warning goes away.
VitisVinifera
would doing the Orozar mission count (to reset anti-farm code)? Kinda funny that the mission is the farming.
Stealthy Trapper
Usually you won't get the antifarming code when you farm entire areas like clearing ALL of augury rocks general area or doing the Orozar mission in whole or part. The best way to get the tip to pop up is to enter an area kill a small group of farmable mobs then leaving just to enter the same area over again.
Example; farm the minotaurs in the first part of the Elona mission then leave and repeat,or clear just a couple of minotaurs outside Augury then go back to town and repeat.
Typically short patterns of farming will get the code to pop up. Not long lasting areas.
Example; farm the minotaurs in the first part of the Elona mission then leave and repeat,or clear just a couple of minotaurs outside Augury then go back to town and repeat.
Typically short patterns of farming will get the code to pop up. Not long lasting areas.
Francis Crawford
So entering a mission isn't enough to clear the code, right? Because it sounds like the places one farms within a mission (e.g., the Elona's Reach minotaurs) trigger the pop-up warning just like any other place does.
Francis Crawford
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dying or zoneing from a different area does not clear it. |
Stealthy Trapper
Any place can give you the code as long as you do small repetitious events in that area. If you get the pop up from killing minotaurs in the Elona mission then you can run to augury rock and go farm there for a few minutes then come back. Same goes for augury. You can go do the Elona mission to get rid of the code. Just try to do the entire Elona mission instead of just farming in it. The best way to lose the code is to go somewhere completely different, say Ascalon area do a mission. The missions are easy and fast there.
Francis Crawford
To clarify -- "code" means "program logic", as in software. I'm assuming that drops get nerfed even before you get pop-up windows with a warning telling you.
At least, I'm asking for other people's experience-based opinions on that.
At least, I'm asking for other people's experience-based opinions on that.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Francis Crawford
To clarify -- "code" means "program logic", as in software. I'm assuming that drops get nerfed even before you get pop-up windows with a warning telling you.
At least, I'm asking for other people's experience-based opinions on that. |
my personal experience with it was getting exp when close to leveling up and there were these 4 mergoyles right next to the zone.i killed them, rezoned killed them again about 20+ times and was simply leaving drops on the ground.
the first message popped up and then the second popped up about 4 times after that.
it chose that time to dop a nice purple for me.
but it was simple quick repeating that triggered it
Sirkaze
I had the farming code on my twice!! alright and after i did a mission i retured back to farming and golds were droping again, i so far got 2 perfect items and a hell load more!!
Prince Telemakhos
how do u guys get so many golds to drop does it depend on hw long u have farmed total. ex: if i farm for a long to outside destinys gorge where griffons are will i get more golds then i did at the begginging of my farming
XzyluM
Drops are random, you never know when you are going to get a gold drop. However, quick, repeative farming of the same area will reduce your drop rate and you will end up with either merchant fodder or nothing at all.
ty3c
This makes alot of sense as I have farmed the hydras alot and the drops went from kinda good to nothing but junk i'll try farming other places ty for this post
storm of daeth
i used to farm trolls,griffons, and ettins for hours on end and would get the lil tip continously so i wised up too it eventually and found out how to beat it and farm continuoussly. I simply farm ENTIRE mission all by myself my favorite missions to farm are in the magumma jungle easy missions and good money best way to avoid the code.
Lateralus
Is there a place I can see the code?
CorstedPirate
I hope that this doesn't apply to doing ToPK over and over. It is a long area, but not a mission. The last 2 times I have done it, I have gotten nothing but merchant fodder. No greens, no golds, no ecto's. It isn't like I have been doing the area non stop since the update either. It is a very recent thing for me to even be there at all.
Poison Ivy
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Is there a place I can see the code?
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XeNoGeArZ
SnipiousMax
The pop up looks like the "tip" pop ups you get in the very beginning of the game, or just after you make a PvP character. Its that light blue box. And it says something along the lines of "if you kill too many of the monsters, eventually they will run out of loot."
I got it ironicly, not while farming, but while I was trying to cap Devestating Hammer in Ice Floe. It's a random spawn, so I was doing that part over and over again, and it kicked in. I thought it was hilarious.
*edit* opps ^ posted just before I did.
I got it ironicly, not while farming, but while I was trying to cap Devestating Hammer in Ice Floe. It's a random spawn, so I was doing that part over and over again, and it kicked in. I thought it was hilarious.
*edit* opps ^ posted just before I did.
Phaern Majes
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Originally Posted by Francis Crawford
To clarify -- "code" means "program logic", as in software. I'm assuming that drops get nerfed even before you get pop-up windows with a warning telling you.
At least, I'm asking for other people's experience-based opinions on that. |
EDIT: I guess I never got the popup cause I turn them off. Heh.
Silent Kitty
I have had that too. At a certain moments monsters don't drop anymore. I never got the pop-up though.
When that happens, I don't give it a second thought and go elsewhere. There are 1001 spots (I am not sure about that number) where I can find junk to sell.
When that happens, I don't give it a second thought and go elsewhere. There are 1001 spots (I am not sure about that number) where I can find junk to sell.
Haggard
i got it from soloing the plague devourers outside druids to lvl myself to 20, after about 10 runs
wsmcasey
I haven't had the pop up yet, but I make it a habit to rotate between my 3 main farming spots every 2 or 3 runs.
R A C
with topk, I think it doesn't trigger the code. It's just like clearing an entire area in between farms. Also, the average topk run is a bajillion times longer than the average ettin, griffin, minotaur, etc. run.
Lateralus
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Originally Posted by Poison Ivy
Also interested in seeing the pop-up. Post if a pic of you can
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Francis Crawford
Seems like the details are a well-kept and possibly changing secret.
Things that SHOULD clear any anti-farming penalty, IMO, include:
1. Doing a quest with another character on the same account.
2. PvPing.
I also would guess that Sorrow's Furnace is immune because you go into Grenth's Furnace and accept a quest and then go into another zone and then kill things. Besides, it's SUPPOSED to be a farming area.
All that said -- in the first five ettins I killed farming, I got 2 useful superior runes (Death, Soul Reaping). I haven't come close to that rate of success since.
Things that SHOULD clear any anti-farming penalty, IMO, include:
1. Doing a quest with another character on the same account.
2. PvPing.
I also would guess that Sorrow's Furnace is immune because you go into Grenth's Furnace and accept a quest and then go into another zone and then kill things. Besides, it's SUPPOSED to be a farming area.
All that said -- in the first five ettins I killed farming, I got 2 useful superior runes (Death, Soul Reaping). I haven't come close to that rate of success since.
dr1zz one
sorry for the hi-jack, but i turned tips off as soon as I made a new toon.
How can i turn them on again?
I didnt know doing a mission reset the code. I usually switch between my few farming spots until i notice the drops start diminishing.
How can i turn them on again?
I didnt know doing a mission reset the code. I usually switch between my few farming spots until i notice the drops start diminishing.
Zaxan Razor
Also, the amount of people farming a certain area will have a negative impact on drops.
Francis Crawford
So I gather nobody has any idea how the PERSONAL farming nerfs work, except in the most general terms?
Zaxan Razor
Well obviously Anet aren't going to give out specific details, otherwise pro farmers would be bale to find out how to negate the code.
VitisVinifera
I think anyone who claims to know exactly how farm code, or aspects of it, work (and I have yet to see anyone who would boast this) is probably taking a rumor or something their 12 year old guildie said is true.
We have general anecdotal ideas of how it works and general anecdotal ideas of how to get rid of (reset) it.
What people are saying about not sticking in one map for too many successive runs, and varying things up, is generally how it's supposed to work. I've been curious about green drop rates, but since these involve quests sometimes, and several maps always, this seems to work in its own right to keep the rates even over the long run.
We have general anecdotal ideas of how it works and general anecdotal ideas of how to get rid of (reset) it.
What people are saying about not sticking in one map for too many successive runs, and varying things up, is generally how it's supposed to work. I've been curious about green drop rates, but since these involve quests sometimes, and several maps always, this seems to work in its own right to keep the rates even over the long run.
Maria The Princess
hmmm...... first time i hear of it! i farm Hydras alot, do ToPK, and never got anything like that! hehe... HOW MUCH time you gotta spend farming to get that! i rly hope it wont happen in ToPK! I love that area so much more then SF!
but ty for bringing it up! ill try not to OVERFARM the area....
but ty for bringing it up! ill try not to OVERFARM the area....
Francis Crawford
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Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
I think anyone who claims to know exactly how farm code, or aspects of it, work (and I have yet to see anyone who would boast this) is probably taking a rumor or something their 12 year old guildie said is true.
We have general anecdotal ideas of how it works and general anecdotal ideas of how to get rid of (reset) it. What people are saying about not sticking in one map for too many successive runs, and varying things up, is generally how it's supposed to work. I've been curious about green drop rates, but since these involve quests sometimes, and several maps always, this seems to work in its own right to keep the rates even over the long run. |
I was hoping for an experience along the lines of "I think X works and Y doesn't, because I tried both and my drop rates were substantially different. Oh, that could just have been randomness, but I really feel it was more than that."
GW-guy
ive done 10+ mountain troll farming runs each day last weeks. in the beggining i always got gold scrolls of the bosses, now i always get 2 mountain troll tusks or a blue scroll 
and all the other drops sux
.. however i hate that code. but if i still carrie on farming after the popup came, til' i dont get any drops, will i never get drops there again?
and all the other drops sux.. however i hate that code. but if i still carrie on farming after the popup came, til' i dont get any drops, will i never get drops there again?
sin against nature
I hit the code on my 55 on the minotaurs in Elona (ill bet money im faster than any bot). After it was active I went to power lvling people on the trolls outside droks for a while. When i can back to Elona the drops were back up and I did about 30 runs (average of about 12 minotaurs a run) and I never hit the code again. Not that im complaining but...explanation?
Xunlai Master
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n after that i was gettin purple drops so i went to diff spot.its bs message tho, i didnt kill anything cos i was doin chest run.
red13xx
I know if you kill the same mob over and over no matter about the timer u will get less drops so it also deals with what you kill...So the penalty takes place if you kill the same monsters, and if you dont meet the minimum hidden timer you must stay before coming back to the area again. Even if you dont kill any mobs and you rezone a few times the monster in any area you enter will drop less and worse. Doing mission runs seems to take longer and you can get more runs in because the penalty is only affected by you killing the same mobs however.( to my knowledge and of course the math behind it i cant explain.) there is probably a ratio between same monster/time like you can only kill 50 of the same type in 10 mins. Anything over that will trigger less drops or worse. In the missions it is like you can only kill 50 of the same type thats why it seems you can do faster runs and acquire more drops because mission farming isnt based on timer just same mob kills. ( Just a random number). That is how i see it.