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Jakerius

Jakerius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Marhan's Grotto, reminiscing about the good old days when it had more than two people.

Children of Orion [CoO]

R/Mo

Introducing the TaxiMonk. An iMonk, who through flawed bot technology, invites you into their group, and SHARES THEIR LOOT!

Mod edit: I removed the pic's as they contained player's names. Please edit the pics to display no player names. Thank you.

Story:
This monkbot accidentally invited me into her group. I knew she was a bot because she didn't talk... at all. Probability of bot: High.

So anyway, I'm in her group, then she goes outside. I'm like "Sweet, I can watch what she does to learn for my iMonk" (who I was on at the time.)
So we're running around, I die. She kills everything and maps back to Augury. I get res'd, run back to death spot and grab the loot!

Heh... try it for yourself. Just stand around on the stairs near the portal out of Augury. You might get lucky.

EDIT: Wondering if I should take out the name or not.

Akuma

Akuma

IRC W H O R E

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australian Trolling Crew HQ, rightful leader and administration

Yale University [Snow]

W/

ROFL

Classic.

wheel

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

Posting in game names of individuals is a no-no without their express permission.

Jakerius

Jakerius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Marhan's Grotto, reminiscing about the good old days when it had more than two people.

Children of Orion [CoO]

R/Mo

Okay, wasn't sure. I'll edit the pics.

Ninjutsu Honor Code

Ninjutsu Honor Code

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Holland

Sidon, Order of Assasins

R/W

What do you mean you cant put in the bots name because its not a real person its a program and wont object in any way possible.

wheel

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

Consdering that the account is owned by a human being, that's completely wrong.

NJudson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

I've seen (or at least thought I've seen) bots in first person shooter games before, but never here in Guild Wars. Does anyone know how a Guild Wars bot even works? For some reason, my brain has a difficult time grasping how bots can play your guy.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Please don't detail how to exploit/cheat...

Tyrent Frath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

[ECTO]

Mo/W

FPS bot aims for you using colored pixels on the enemey team models and sending the mouse point directly to that specific color pixel without you doing anything

In GW, the bot simply repeats a simple routine, such as "walk here, activate these skills, pickup loot, zone back, repeat" although its in code so its more complicated.

^^^xen, i think thats what he wanted.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

Haha, expoiting a bot that's exploiting the game. Funny.

NJudson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrent Frath
FPS bot aims for you using colored pixels on the enemey team models and sending the mouse point directly to that specific color pixel without you doing anything

In GW, the bot simply repeats a simple routine, such as "walk here, activate these skills, pickup loot, zone back, repeat" although its in code so its more complicated.

^^^xen, i think thats what he wanted.
Yeah, I wasn't interested in finding a bot to use, I was just confused/curious how they were able to target enemy and pick up drops and chests etc.

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

Thats a complex bot right there...

eom

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/N

might be a bot, but maybe he's been programmed to object to his name being used.

Veneficus

Veneficus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

Ever thought that they couldnt speak a word of english..?

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Veneficus
Ever thought that they couldnt speak a word of english..?
a fleshbot :-)

Mr.Interrupt

Mr.Interrupt

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Clawson, Michigan

The Good Ol Days [BWE]

Rt/

GW bots can be much simpler than other bots because it doesn't have to target any items. All it has to do is cover X ground using the <;> key to select items.

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

Bots ? An iMonk is pretty easy to run, but it isnt that easy. It would take a pretty complicated bot/macro to accomplish a farming run. It just doesnt make sense. Until I see hard proof of the existence of iMonk bots I'm going to assume these people just arent very talkative.

Tyrent Frath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

[ECTO]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by fallot
Bots ? An iMonk is pretty easy to run, but it isnt that easy. It would take a pretty complicated bot/macro to accomplish a farming run. It just doesnt make sense. Until I see hard proof of the existence of iMonk bots I'm going to assume these people just arent very talkative.
i used to think that...now go to a random district in augury...follow a couple of the monks going outside on their path...notice they all follow the SAME path

this is because they take turns perfectly because its the most efficient way of getting to the exit, stand at the turn before the stairs and watch them all, you can tell which are people and which arent.

Sister Spice

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

Dracos Paladin

Mo/

So did you send them an invite and they accepted?
or did they randomly invite you?

the mind boggles

Sister Spice

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

I've sent invite to some monks and they accepted. When we get outside some will go "?" and map back. Others will tell me to "go" as in go die. Others let me follow them, (very few), and pick up loot lol. I eventually stopped this because I was feeling guilty and I made my own 55 so I didnt need to follow them anyway.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Some people don't talk.. If I join a group and everyone talking sounds stupid in my opinion, I won't talk. The amount of people who ACTUALLY bot is very low.

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fallot
Bots ? An iMonk is pretty easy to run, but it isnt that easy. It would take a pretty complicated bot/macro to accomplish a farming run. It just doesnt make sense. Until I see hard proof of the existence of iMonk bots I'm going to assume these people just arent very talkative.
you're kidding right?

I could write the paramateres right now...the code would take a while longer I admit but it's a matter of interface more then anything as the solution is already known.

koneko

Site Contributor

Join Date: Sep 2005

38??16′ N 140??52′ E

Mo/Me

I'm willing to venture a guess and say that a good number of these monks are sweatshop farmers and not bots...or sweatshop farmers that are using bots.

I stood near the ramp and sent out random invites to some of the monks (overall, about half were rejected - either bots or farmers that don't want to be disturbed?) and chatted up a few of them in broken Mandarin - "ni hao ma?" I actually got actual responses from most.

Maybe the farmers look over several computers at once and interact only when something odd happens?

/amused

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrent Frath
they all follow the SAME path.
I got lucky and body blocked one on its way out, came back after a 30 min afk and i had 30 solo'ers next to me and hundreds of lols.

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymous
I got lucky and body blocked one on its way out, came back after a 30 min afk and i had 30 solo'ers next to me and hundreds of lols.
Well now Anet knows how to deal with bots

Dahman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Me

Blocked them? How? Isn't blocking someone at outposts impossible as chars are transparent?

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

oooh, we should so all do that. lol

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahman
Blocked them? How? Isn't blocking someone at outposts impossible as chars are transparent?
It can be done but there is no sure fire way.It is luck, they get caught on a wall or some invisible barrier when their character slides around you to pass. Just like glitching through walls in LA and heros.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

I just tried it and they go right through me.

d4nowar

d4nowar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/

They go right though you. The bot stopped by no action of yours.

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

It obviously wasn't a bot. Sometimes farmers will group you for no appearent reason, get you killed and map back. They do it to me all the time. Obviously a bot wouldn't know to leave the district, and certainly wouldn't have left loot behind, and obviously wouldn't have mapped back.

Ranger Rog

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

[TOG]

Edit. I should read the whole thread before posting.

Gildor Took

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Australia, 3rd rock from the sun

Mo/

how do you accidentally invite?

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic Smile
you're kidding right?

I could write the paramateres right now...the code would take a while longer I admit but it's a matter of interface more then anything as the solution is already known.
I assume it would be simple enough if everytime the environment outside Augury was exactly the same. It isnt.

Just one badly spawned Rockshot Devourer is enough to ruin a run for someone who doesnt know what he's doing. I cant see how a bot would be able to accomplish that.