What happened to the price of Superior Vigor?

Studio Ghibli

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

Howdy,

Just wondering if anyone has any idea why the price of superior vigor runes has dropped as much as it has. The last time I looked at it, it was hovering around 65 plat. Now it's down to 30.

Any ideas?

I have a rune. Should I hold onto it for Factions with the idea that the influx of new players will boost rune prices?

Narutoscryed

Narutoscryed

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

In the woods

Elite Crew

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well i think the main reason is that more players = more stuff like vigors on the market.. not to mention the fact that everyone and there mom knows how to ettin farm..but i would sell that thing now b4 the price goes down even farther.. personnally me im hopeing for the price reset i have heard happend a while back to happen again.. then im gonna have a feild day

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

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Guildie found one too . . Wow it dropped THAT much . . Anet needs an economy reset again. Ecto at trader for 100 gold ftw.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

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I was looking for a Vigor Rune, but was pretty short on money, and you know how much ANet loves me, they just reset the price

Takeko Nakano

Takeko Nakano

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Great Britain

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Studio Ghibli
Howdy,

I have a rune. Should I hold onto it for Factions with the idea that the influx of new players will boost rune prices?
Unless you really need the money, I would keep it and use it on your new armour.

Sab

Sab

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

In response to the thread title: Ettins.

Zaxan Razor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

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Huh? I coulda sworn that superior vigor has been around 30-35k for a few months now?

Then again i have just woken up, am i thinking of the price you get from the trader for selling one?

apocalypse_xx

apocalypse_xx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by LuxA
In response to the thread title: Ettins.
Wrong. Drop rate is unchanged and people have been farming ettins since the dawn of time...well, tengu elite too, but the real reason for the price drop, IMO, people are not investing in new armor until Factions comes out...wait and watch the price go through the roof when everyone wants new armor. Same reason why ecto prices originally plunged, people said it was because of the "New UW"...please, have you seen the drop rates in TPK? People just don't want to spend on armor right now.

Murder In China

Murder In China

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Looking for one

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More people are selling the runes to the traders which lower the prices since more superior vigor runes are in the market.

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

What i think happened is that it went down to a more reasonable price.

LiQuId StEeL

LiQuId StEeL

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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It is finally going back to where it should be. There is no reason for Sup Vig to be at 75k +.

Hold onto yours until you get a enw set of armor. It will do mroe good on your character than at the merchant.

Sab

Sab

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by apocalypse_xx
Wrong. Drop rate is unchanged and people have been farming ettins since the dawn of time...well, tengu elite too, but the real reason for the price drop, IMO, people are not investing in new armor until Factions comes out...wait and watch the price go through the roof when everyone wants new armor. Same reason why ecto prices originally plunged, people said it was because of the "New UW"...please, have you seen the drop rates in TPK? People just don't want to spend on armor right now.
Let me elaborate, more and more people are farming ettins now thanks to the explosion in Ettin-farming threads. If, as you say, the drop rate is unchanged, then it would make sense that more people farming would result in more runes.

As for ectos, the drop rate is very low, I agree, but don't forget the sheer number of people farming there. I think that Tombs had at least some influence in the price drop because of that.

Spenser_For_Hire

Spenser_For_Hire

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Join Date: Feb 2006

i think its because people are not making as many new characters and are not buying more armor sets lately more then over ettin farming.
when chapter 2 comes out, sup vigors and sup absorbs are gonna go back to normal, or so i hope

TheMosesPHD

TheMosesPHD

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

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Also dyes. Save yer dyes because their prices will boost up pretty far as well for the same reason. At the same time, if you want to buy a sup vigor or some dyes for your chars, I suggest you do it before Factions is released.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Glad I sucked ettins dry 3 months before they got popular. The drop rate has changed dramaticly. I used to be able to pull 2-3 golds per run on my 1000+ hour account. After 2 months it still did not change.

Got a new account and did them to unlock runes about a month ago. Took me 4-5 runs just to get 1 gold and it was a major. I feel so bad for new players.

Former Ruling

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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I can still get 1 gold per run off Ettins usually, but again...its 99% of the time a major rune, or if its sup - its a Mesmer sup.

When Ettins FIRST got some attention to them (like that week) my first got a Sup Abs. from going on 1 run of ettins, and I got a Sup Vigor from 2-3 runs (and a sup divine favor also).

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

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Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

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Has anyone ever thought that people realized 9 HP is not such a big deal?

0siris

0siris

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Chicago Area

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What Infusion said...

I dont see why there should be a 50K difference between Major and Sup Vigor.

Grammar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeInfusion
Has anyone ever thought that people realized 9 HP is not such a big deal?
LOL, I was just about to say the same thing.

I still have plain old major vigor runes on all my characters, because I don't think the extra 9 HP is even close to worth the extra 30K or whatever it is.
If I were a crazy farmer with crazy time and money on my hands, then maybe I'd buy sup vigor runes just for the hell of it, but I don't have the kind of time and money (4 sup vigor runes for my 4 characters = ~120K, which is insane for what you're getting in return).

Apocamentus

Apocamentus

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Hi I recently got 2 sup absortions, 1 monk, and 1 rit sup runes in 2 days in factions. Thought this was very lucky, however the runes had gone down LOADS since I last looked e.g. absortion is now like 15k and monk sub runes are about 4 (which is annoying cause i bouhgt mine for my monk 12k each). So what do you think i should do, sell now before they go lower, or keep in case they go back up again?

MSecorsky

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Apocamentus
Hi I recently got 2 sup absortions, 1 monk, and 1 rit sup runes in 2 days in factions. Thought this was very lucky, however the runes had gone down LOADS since I last looked e.g. absortion is now like 15k and monk sub runes are about 4 (which is annoying cause i bouhgt mine for my monk 12k each). So what do you think i should do, sell now before they go lower, or keep in case they go back up again?
Sell them or give them to a friend in need. Prices won't be going back up, fortunately for the regular Joe.

Hunter Sharparrow

Hunter Sharparrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Superior absorbtion is at 16k and superior vigor is 33k.

This drop happened gradually after anet's last major update. Now vigor hasn't dropped nearly as much as absortion has but I think that's just because of factions. Everyone wants the best for their new characters and since vogor can be used by everyone there is still a strong demand for it. Once people max out their factions characters we will soon see the price of the vigor drop like the absorbtion did.

Now the update put out by anet made three influencing factors.
1. All rare armors will be superior runes.
2. Increased the drop rate of superor absorbtion and vigor
3. Increased the drop rate of rare items throughout tyria (pre faction release update)

Now it could be that when they increased the drop rate of vigors and absorbtion they changed it so absorbtion drops more often then vigor. Maybe the change for vigor wasn't successfull implamented. Those too could be facters as to why the price changed so dramatically for the absorbtion and not for the vigor but I hope not. I would like to see the price of superior vigors match the price for absorbtion and the only way that can happen is if the reason the price is still as high as it is is because of all the newly created characters.

eudas

eudas

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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1) Ettins are dropping more runes; this was posted in an update.

See the Update - Wednesday, April 26, 2006 (http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Game_updates/20060426):

"Runes

* Increased probability of finding Superior Vigor and Superior Absorption runes."

2) As another poster noted, more people are farming ettins because it's become widely acknowledged as a good place to farm runes.

3) See also: basic laws of supply and demand; supply goes up to meet demand, so price goes down.

Researching information FTW.

eudas

Swinging Fists

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Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by eudas
3) See also: basic laws of supply and demand; supply goes up to meet demand, so price goes down.
eudas
And here I always thought the law of supply and demand had to do with price increasing when demand exceeds supply and vice versa. All these years, I've been so misinformed.

I was so happy yesterday when I got my first sup absorb drop (not even ettin farming, but a mission / quest in Factions). Then I check the price. Oh well, still a good chunk of gold though.

Teklord

Teklord

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Lloyd.ab.ca

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I personally look forward to seeing the prices continue to drop as if they do I may actually get my hands on one or if I'm really lucky two Superior Vigors. That of course being because I don't spend hours upon hours farming...

I'm a city boy.

Addition: As of this point I have yet to have an Superior Vigor. Well minus the time a while back with the 'accidental' price reset that I just happened to be around to witness. Figures.

Diablo???

Diablo???

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

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I had a Sup Vigor dropped for me once, but it was during FPE, and the account was temporary........ pity.