/faction emote

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

We already got a /fame emote for players with a lot of fame, why not have a /faction for players who have lots of faction accumulated? Just a thought.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

No, because many people have varying Faction amounts, especially those that are UAX. Those that mainly unlocked through PvE will have low Faction caps. Faction says even less about a person than Fame.

Fallen_Angel

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

No, but I wouldn't mind seeing an emote/rank that's linked to GvG wins instead.

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

Well... faction > rank, however putting all these emotes would just make more people pointlessly spam them and come up with new ways to block out newbies from joining their groups.

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

lol however there aren't many people without either rank or faction. This may even help those that have heaps of faction but no rank to get into teams easier.

The Muffen Man

The Muffen Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Druery Lane

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
No, because many people have varying Faction amounts, especially those that are UAX. Those that mainly unlocked through PvE will have low Faction caps. Faction says even less about a person than Fame.

And your point is ???????

My god man did you even read back what you wrote lol, I re-read it so many times and it still doesnt make any sence.

Faction even says less about a person than fame you must b jokeing right ?
I have over 500k faction but am only r3+ because I play warrior and thats realy all I play because thats what I like to play (it is a game after all isnt it and the point of a game is to have fun and have fun playing what you like)

I stopped hoh when it became IWAY heavy cause as a warrior thats all they want, I also playon my pve toon which I finished the game with.

So are you telling me my 500k+ faction is nothing compared to those r10+ IWAY RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs ???????

/signed for fame emote linkedto faction and not hoh that way if you sre s good player from gvg, ta, ra, hoh more impresive than fame farmes using IWAY which is why every one of you may have noticed has killed the guild wars pvp population. The ditricts are empty or there is only one or two when there used to be over 10 in hoh and alteast always 3-4 in ta when now there is 1-2 and ra used to havae over 30-50 now maybe 4.

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

Yeah I figured you either have lots of fame or lots of faction. However you only get something to show for it if you have fame, those who just get faction miss out. And role players just role play so there's no point in them gaining some sort of special PvP badge anyway.

Jiao Yang

Jiao Yang

Lunar Rabbit

Join Date: Dec 2005

yea.. a way to show of your guild rank would be more useful That also says a lot about you and your guild

Alcazanar

Alcazanar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cavalon (swe)

Desert Flame [DF]

W/N

The Muffin man
i really feel the same as you
why cant people listen to pro's like us

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

Since you get faction for winning in GvG, with a /faction that should keep all those GvG hardcores happy so long as they bump up the amount of faction you gain for winning. Also when you've unlocked everything, half of the PvP game becomes irrelevent. This will breathe fresh air into it.

Still, it's kind of sad seeing all these people doing arenas and becoming so good yet they have nothing to show for it while others who just run IWAY none-stop can get into teams much easier.

The Muffen Man

The Muffen Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Druery Lane

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Quote:
Originally Posted by d3kst3r
Since you get faction for winning in GvG, with a /faction that should keep all those GvG hardcores happy so long as they bump up the amount of faction you gain for winning. Also when you've unlocked everything, half of the PvP game becomes irrelevent. This will breathe fresh air into it.

Still, it's kind of sad seeing all these people doing arenas and becoming so good yet they have nothing to show for it while others who just run IWAY none-stop can get into teams much easier.
Truer words have not yet been spoken.

With this they should get rid of the 10k faction cap which is an even bigger abomanation than IWAY.

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
No, because many people have varying Faction amounts, especially those that are UAX. Those that mainly unlocked through PvE will have low Faction caps. Faction says even less about a person than Fame.
What he said.

It would work if you could earn faction towards your lifetime total even after hitting the cap, but you can't, as far as I know.

edit: It would still be pretty pointless, but it would, technically, work. Is what I meant.

M3lk0r

M3lk0r

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/Mo

You can "farm" TA all day and make well over 10k faction a day.
The reward for GvG is the ladder. Fame is just pointless ego-boosting. Arena isint worth anything tbh.

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Although I would like to see a /faction, I can see the other side to it.

person 1- rank 6 tombs person, 300k faction
person 2- rank 1 GvG person 700k faction

now can someone tell me what that 700k faction has to do with knowing tombs?(please dont say all skills unlocked, that applies to all pvp)

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

im fully unlocked i should have a cool emote
/signed

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiao Yang
yea.. a way to show of your guild rank would be more useful That also says a lot about you and your guild
That would say NOTHING about you, since you could be someone who never participated in any PvP activity in your guild. It would be even more pointless than a faction emote.

Cool emotes would be:

- the current rank emotes
- an emote for having won HoH

faction emotes.. well, faction is rediculously easy to farm...

icemonkey

icemonkey

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

faction doesnt count for anything. You dont have to win to get faction, you only get fame if you win. You only get enough fame for the very high ranks if you win many many games consecuitively often.

besides faction not meaning anything, its only purpose is to allow people who only want to play pvp to unlock skills and runes and upgrades without forcing them to PvE. That is the only purpose of faction, it is not a judge of player ability

and GvG people dont need a special emote, if your guild has a god enough rank to garner you respect people will probably know about yer guild before hand. i.e. your guild being in top 100 is something to show and it is shown on TV and you can look up a guild on ladder.guildwars.com or wahtever. If yer guild is ranked substantially higher than 100 you have nothing to show off.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Muffen Man
And your point is ???????

My god man did you even read back what you wrote lol, I re-read it so many times and it still doesnt make any sence.

Faction even says less about a person than fame you must b jokeing right ?
I have over 500k faction but am only r3+ because I play warrior and thats realy all I play because thats what I like to play (it is a game after all isnt it and the point of a game is to have fun and have fun playing what you like)

I stopped hoh when it became IWAY heavy cause as a warrior thats all they want, I also playon my pve toon which I finished the game with.

So are you telling me my 500k+ faction is nothing compared to those r10+ IWAY RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs ???????

/signed for fame emote linkedto faction and not hoh that way if you sre s good player from gvg, ta, ra, hoh more impresive than fame farmes using IWAY which is why every one of you may have noticed has killed the guild wars pvp population. The ditricts are empty or there is only one or two when there used to be over 10 in hoh and alteast always 3-4 in ta when now there is 1-2 and ra used to havae over 30-50 now maybe 4.
you didnt get the point.

i got 216k faction from about 6 month.

since i unlocked a lot of skill with pve im reached the cap fast.

so im stuck at 216k if i didnt get the cap probably i will be at 500-600 or even more , got the point?

also the faction really dont mean nothing ...

if you say you have 400k faction what this mean?

you get 400k faction in ra?

you get 400k faction in hoh?

you get 400k faction in gvg?

how you can decide if this guy is good gvg/hoh player from this?

A User Name

A User Name

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

None atm

Well i can see both sides of the agruement. While something NEEDS to be done about the current rank system and IWAY, i dont no if a faction emote the way to go. I mean it would reward the faction farmers to much not the casual player. I mean i got my r3 and then quit the halls soon after cause hoh got too boring running into the same IWAY, Ranger spiker, 1 other random team. So i have gone to the RA playing against new builds. Which in Ra a good team can get hue amounts of faction very quickly. With lots of faction would that place me better than a gvg'er with less faction or hoh'er (well of course i am better than a rank 9 iway person so that matters not).
i dont think faction emote the way to go, but hey if it could solve the rank problem id /sign.

musefanalert

musefanalert

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

We Like Music [Loud]

R/

i agree with the /faction thing, ive only recently started doing HA but have lots of faction and experience from GvG and i refuse to play IWAY so thus i have low rank but im easily rank 3 or more skill level...

this would allow me to get into non-newbie/noob teams as atm, whenever theres a good team in my guild to go HA, that means we have a good team to GvG so we never go...

Warskull

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2005

[out]

/faction simply wouldn't be useful. Faction wasn't designed to be a measurement. People cap out at different levels of faction. I originally capped out at 69k faction. You can grind out faction just by losing over and over again in RA if you have to. In addition you can now farm faction from Zaishen if you want to. Faction just wasn't design to be a measure of anything and as a result isn't useful as a measure of skill. In fact ideally you should be able to churn out a decent amount of faction even if you are losing (because you really need to unlock the good skills in that case.)

The rank system has flaws, but adding /faction won't fix them.

shardfenix

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

So, you want a /faction emote so that more players have a reason to cut people out of their groups? You want to put another useless emote in the game, and pretend it tells you how good you are? Rank means squat right now. What makes you think a /faction emote would help.
Oh, and there is already a top guild emote. It's called observer mode.
Rank has nothing to do with skill. All rank tell you is how much time you spend in tombs. If you're rank 9+, it tells people youre a good spirit spammer, and a crappy everything else.

Shut Your Mouth

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Deathspawn Elite

Mo/N

Well now that we all agree Rank Emotes are pointless anymore can the subject either get dropped or just reset rank/fame for everyone so that all have the same rules apply to their Rank/Fame count. Everyone knows that some skills were overpowering and abused for large Fame counts before they were balanced out properly. As well as now the general idea is that IWAY is overpowering. Which in either case a large number of players have received large amounts of fame due to unbalanced skills. This is unfortunate for newer players that have not had the same chance to get Fame from an exploit. Allowing the same thing to happen with faction would just create another rift in the GW community that is already IMO struggling from an identity crisis. If you want to learn how to play PvP effectively join a guild that does alot of PvP and learn from them. Once your skilled in PvP it should not be that hard to get Rank/Fame/Faction or whatever. It really is not hard to get rank if that is what you want to do.

I do support the wiping of all Rank/Fame for everyone due to the fact that early and current exploits of overpowering skills have given a majority of players an unrealistic Fame/rank score compared to what can be achieved by current skill balances.