just to mention something about factions armours

just wondering what other people think of this. the fow armour is alot of money and i know that but people who have this armour think there carnt be better armours in factions because its unfair. but those people have to look at it in another way of that armour is a bonus and its up to you if you get it. who else agrees with what im saying i ask people with fow armour and they just reply with its not fair. if you dont i would like a good reason why.

Uh, higher armor levels would be unbalancing for any type of armor, expensive or cheap. They're not going to do that. I guarantee it. Why? The max character level isn't going up, so why would armor levels?

true but then there has to be somethign you can gain from factions i mean yes there is a new campaign but i carnt go through that if im not working for something like working for better armours, weapons and more. but everyone is saying weapons just have differnt mods. in my view not really much to work for if all this is true

From what I have heard FoW will still be 'the' armor, as in the most sought after. it has nothing to do with armor level or the protection it offers, it's just more of a status thing.

New weapons, skills, enemies, play areas.... who cares if you don't get some superbuffed armor? Not like you need it, armor is balanced enough as is... I don't think they'll ruin the armor balance in c2, sorry.

Nope it wont happen as it would unbalance the game. Why make people work so hard for stuff only to make it worthless when chapter 2 is out. It wont happen.

Lots of rumors are going around that rubies and saphhires are going to be used maybe u can upgrade ur fow armor???

It will just look different and be newer. So EVERYONE will want it...period. Look what happened when people discovered GREENS (original SF/GP), people were buying them up left and right for huge money, even though some were worth little to nothing. Then came the icy dragon swords, everyone wanted those too. Then came the new UW greens.

Basically people want wnat is new, or to look cool. Hell I don't look at armor, don't look at weapons etc. I play the game.

I thought all the UW armor was ugly anyways, at least for the 4 builds I play. So I am hoping that the new stuff looks a little better. And I am sure that when it does finally come out it will be plenty expensive, probably even moreso. If it involves both saphires and rubies which are currently trading at 6K per, that is roughly where Fissure armor was until the prices went crazy. You can actually get fissure armor now as cheap as you ever could as peopl anticipoate the new release.

New doesn't always mean better. But to some people it does.

As far as "better" it surely will not be more protective. Afterall Drokners, the normal 15K armor and Fissure armor ALL provide the same amount of protection. Neither is "better" than the othe, it is just a different look.

i see what you mean

I am positive (of course nothing confirmed) that there will be high level armor for at a minimum the ritualist and assasin in Factions. Why? Because as we have been told, you can play factions as a separate game completely from prophecies.

So there are situations in which characters would not be able to get fissure armor at all. Of course they could go the route and say that they just won't get any, but I don't think they will do that.

I don't think the actual AL level will go up, but there will be highend armor available.

Or maybe there will be another "ToA" like place in Cantha, that has the same statues where you can give offerings to the gods. In any case, high level armor is a given, though it will look different from the FoW sets.

Maybe I should have started a new thread for this concept but there are enough "what about armor" threads out there...

The potential is there for stand alone faction account holders to aquire Fow armor...all Anet has to do is put a portal to FOW somewhere in the new world...as long as the materials are still available new account holders will be able to aquire FOW armor...

something to think about, since Fow Armor is a status symbol and a great gold sync i think this idea might be something we will see at release or in an update not long after release...

only time will tell...

Offhand, I seem to remember a Canthan NPC in Tyria saying something to the effect that the Canthans have their own entrance into the Underworld.

That's funny. Do you think there will be new gods in this Canthan ToA besides Dwayna and Balthazar and all those squares?

I'm 100% sure there will be a FoW type armor for Factions. Because its not only an expansion, its a standalone game and those playing it standalone will want hi-lvl armor too.

I doubt it. Those gods seem to be universal throughout the world of GW. Though, those particular gods can have different influences in different lands.

For Example, Dwayna seems to be a popular god among Tyrians. Lyssia or Melandru could be a more popular god in Cantha.

Though there could be other 'forsaken' gods that we haven't seen yet. Like the gods of the Charr and White Mantle for example.

The gods of the whitemantle were the mursaat. Anet will keep the game balanced so fow wearers wont get upset, just you watch.

white mantle gods are mursaat, charr gods are titans, no?

We dont need new armors or even a higher level cap or more skills, the way things are right now is perfect. My only problem is that the armors atm is quite unbalanced and its especially true for warriors.

Dragons/Plates in actuallity are quite useles other than vanity as they are the weakest and least beneficial.

Full knights and Ascalon sets are ditto cept having only 1 armor piece of it will benefit other armors while a full set doesn't do anything for you.

I have a feeling the sentinels will be next in line due to it being the only armor w/ penalty unless a req is met and in actually has no bonus for an armor. its highest def is somewhat an illusion, since most armor are comparable if not the same def level vs physical(100) and the only thing it has for advantage is the def vs elements. ALthough it looks quite good.

Anet needs to rebalance the armors really. Sentinel should have a +10armor vs physical if str is 13 or something like that. Ascalon and knights should only have their bonuses kept to themselves and not just by the piece. Maybe something more to buff the sets too.

As for dragon and plates, I dunno how they would be improved. Maybe add like +10 armor vs elements along w/ the +10armor vs physical to make them a very balanced armor while the others are specialized.

Glads for energy
berserk for extra hp
Knights/ascalon for extra dmg buffer
Dragon/plates for even armor ratio vs all
Legionnaire for stance warriors
Sentinel for extreme physical resistance and good element Def but w/ req

I think a well balanced armor selection would improve the game leaps and bounds and people will actually think of why they would choose a set.

Also making the armors look more aesthetically mixable is easily solved if the main armor components are dye-able. The undyeable regions of the armor shouldn't overpower the details of the dyeable parts. Maybe then you'll see more variety w/o looking like an oaf.

They said that Toa will be accessable to c2 only accounts as well as c1. With that said Zin and Rit will have new fow armor.

There will be more skills coming for every chapter. Gems and saphaires will be the new big thing for the fow armour.

I think rubies and saphs will be more for other accessorys other than armor or maybe add ons to your fow armor rather than for a totaly new armor set.

Hey how much does fow armor cost anyways? cause i been thinking of going to try and get it with a friend and really have no idea.

New armor that has better stats than current armor won't happen. New armor that costs a boatload of gold certainly might, but don't expect to get, say, an extra 20 armor for your gold.

You are looking at about 1mil, give or take a few hundred thousand.

I'm so glad I never for FoW for my warrior and feel sorry for warriors that have it since it does not look good.
Then faction shows that 100 AL armor which owns the fow armor in looks.

Anet has already said new high armor is coming.

With each chapter, there going to add armor of different type and style. Five chapters in, it's going to be sheer choice of armor you can choose from.

Hard to word. Down the road, once things start rolling there will be so many choices and styles of play will lean towards being balanced due to the sheer number of "specific" builds a will not be as popular because there will be 2-5 different things that can go against it but the chance to seeing the 2-5 will not be common but it will come up.

There going to add armor that give advantages over specific styles in C1 but at the same time, since C2 only doesn't have access to all C1 armor, C1 will have some advantages over C2. The people that have a merged account will have the best of both worlds.

Anyone who has played magic the gathering (informal) where you can play 4 of any card from any set and have cards from 7+ series will know exactly what I mean (maybe someone can word it better).

Once Gw hits a "critical" point where the sheer number of choices change the way the game is played due to you can't count on a lot of things anymore, you will find a "flavor" and run with it and you will come across a counter build.

Another point with Magic The Gathering, there have color type specilized cards that would decimate another color type in to the ground but with 5 color and many many sets, that was outcome for making a too specific set. I can see the same thing here, something will murder another build style if it's too specific.

People make their characters. Characters do not make the player.

ARMOR does not replace skill. Better armor might help, but if you have horrible usage of skills, you will not get anywhere.

I agree with you

the armour levels ARE going up, you seen the pvp warrior armour?

it has 100 armour on each peice.

not nessarily.


i'm guessing ANET will create new items for FoW armour, so the americans who bought billions of rubys + saphs, wont get the chance to make fortunes.


i am guessing they will require items like ectos, only avabile in certian place's in guild wars factions, items they havent relised yet.

nope, it is still AL 80 with a conditional +20. If you don't have 13 in strength, you only have AL of 80. You could rewrite the desctiption as AL 80 (+20AL if Strength is over 13)

Same thing for Galdiators, you can think of it as AL 100, with a -20 vs Elemental or AL 80 (+20AL vs. Physical)

Their Armor levels are basically the same, just with different requirements.

Are you saying that Americans are the only ones with Rubies and Saphires?