Watch out for Hotmail.com and GuildWars accounts.

Synthos

Synthos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Recently there have been some incidents where people using Hotmail.com have gotten there GuildWars accounts stolen. I know of 2 people personally that this has happened to. One of my friends had to contact support and prove that he had bought the game in order to get his account back, When he got it back all of his gold was gone and his characters deleted. Apparently hotmail.com has been hacked and not GuildWars, So if your accounts through Hotmail maybe you should think otherwise.

Afflatus

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Hotmail is very easy to hack, so I just suggest you don't use it at all. Use something else. I have gmail invites if anyone needs one. I have 150 left, I think.

Arconius

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

is it possible to change the email i am using with my account?
If so how may i please you into giving me a gmail account

Dirt Merchent

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I use Gmail also. If you need invite send me a message.

DismalClown

DismalClown

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

How can they hack into your GW account by hacking into hotmail?

GW never sent my username and password to my hotmail account, just a confirmation email that only mentioned my email and not my username or password.

Soul Monarch

Soul Monarch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the between.

Heros Etc.

Me/N

Gmail is the only way to go. I actually prefer it to actual server-based email.

I've got more invites to Gmail than I can shake a stick at too, so let me know if anyone needs 'em.

PieXags

PieXags

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Infinite Representation Of Pie And Its Many Brilliances

Also a gmail user, lovin' it thus far. I've got like 90 invites too so if anyone needs it just let me know via pm.

DismalClown

DismalClown

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by DismalClown
How can they hack into your GW account by hacking into hotmail?

GW never sent my username and password to my hotmail account, just a confirmation email that only mentioned my email and not my username or password.

My bad, your email is your login. Ok, so they can get your login but my password has never been sent to my email, but I've never done the in game I forgot my password thing - perhaps this sends it to your email.

And as long as you delete all of your guildwars email, how would they know your hotmail email is a guildwars login?

Darksci

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

London

Lords Of The Immortal [Loti]

R/W

How do they get the login email?
And how do they 'hack' into hotmail?

The recovery password thing for hotmail requires a recovery question to be answered.

Ramus

Ramus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

Zero Tolerance

W/Mo

I've also got gmail invites, contact me at atrus140 on aim or any of my other messengers below for them.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

I am highly doubtful that hotmail.com itself was 'hacked'

Sounds more like social engineering than anything else.

Arcala

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Oslo, Norway

The Amazon Basin

Me/Mo

People must stop putting easy answers to the "secret question" you have to answer when you create online accounts.

-Arc

faralen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Afflatus
Hotmail is very easy to hack, so I just suggest you don't use it at all. Use something else. I have gmail invites if anyone needs one. I have 150 left, I think.
Guessing someone's password, or their secret question/answer, is not hacking.

Usually, if you get your stuff stolen this way, it's to someone you know. "What is your dog's name?" isn't a big secret among friends. Hell, out of a 15 minute AIM conversation, you can usually get that (or first teacher's name, etc) casually out of them. Most of the time when people's accounts get "hacked" into, it's to stupid secret questions and answers like these.

Also, GMail uses these as well, so I don't see how it's any better. User error.

Mountain Man

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Afflatus
Hotmail is very easy to hack...
It's run by Microsoft. What else would you expect?

DismalClown

DismalClown

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I was just reading about this on another forum and plenty of gmail users have had their accounts stolen as well. In a lot of cases for both hotmail and gmail a persons email and GuildWars accounts has their passwords changed.

This doesn't sound like they are hacking into hotmail or gmail, sounds like they have a keylogger somehow installed.

For people that have been hacked I would like to ask, have you downloaded any "utilities" for guildwars? Are you using the same password for your email and guildwars?

mthegreatone

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

yup gmail user hear as well. used it to sign up in the game. the thing is that i don't know how to check how many invites i have...

High Priest Death

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Hey, from what is sounds like it's not that Hotmail is hacked or even Guild Wars, it sounds like a keylogger. Some of you may know this as "Spyware", but basically what it does is every keystroke you type in and/or copy/paste or click gets sent to someone (the "hacker") via email. It is miss used but a useful for those novice hackers out there. That is most likely what happened. Ask your friends if they have recently downloaded anything that is not trusted. For example some knockoff "Guildwarhacking.com" site. If so the files they downloaded may have had the keylogger appended to them. I would recommend getting AVG Anit-Virus and scanning the computers they lost their accounts on.

-chris

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Again, neither hotmail nor gmail are 'hacked' - its social engineering/stupidity ( "Lets set my super secret and super important password to 'pass'") that gets accounts 'hacked'

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde
Again, neither hotmail nor gmail are 'hacked' - its social engineering/stupidity ( "Lets set my super secret and super important password to 'pass'") that gets accounts 'hacked'
Aggreed completely.

relientK_fan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, Nowhere

Sith Overlords[SO]

W/Mo

Whoo, I have my email from my ISP. No one can hack it! It's local only!! wOOtness!!!

SOT

SOT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

East Texas

Quote:
Originally Posted by Afflatus
Hotmail is very easy to hack, so I just suggest you don't use it at all. Use something else. I have gmail invites if anyone needs one. I have 150 left, I think.

I have 200 also

viet

viet

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

cali, usa

The Samurai Demons

Mo/W

i had a hacker atempt on my acount also

Mister Glue

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Athens, GA

TLH

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde
I am highly doubtful that hotmail.com itself was 'hacked'

Sounds more like social engineering than anything else.
Actually, in the past (honestly I don't know about now), hotmail.com has been quite easy to exploit so people could actually "hack" their way into their databases/someone's personal email. Just throwing that out there to say that it could've very well been an actual hack.

But then again, we do live in a world with people. and ppl r le dum.

deathwearer

deathwearer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Canada/Quebec

Silentum Altum

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde
Again, neither hotmail nor gmail are 'hacked' - its social engineering/stupidity ( "Lets set my super secret and super important password to 'pass'") that gets accounts 'hacked'
and LOL.

He's pretty right, nobody has hacked hotmail nor gmail.

KvanCetre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Madison Scouts

E/Mo

The smart people use their ISP email...

Free web-based mail fails...

Galatea

Galatea

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

The Drifters [DRFT]

E/Me

http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com
http://www.bdeshini.com/2005/04/is-gmail-evil.html

Synncial77

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by KvanCetre
The smart people use their ISP email...

Free web-based mail fails...
Actually, the not-so-smart people use ISP email. What happens when you switch providers? <Poof> your email address is gone. With services like hotmail you have an email account whether you have an internet account or not.

Syuveil

Syuveil

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Minnesota

Wrath of Nature [WoN]

R/

I have some gmail invites as well...

CAT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

KOREA

Slash Rank[DeeR]

R/Me

poor hotmail people...

Yea, i use gmail as well, another 100 invites if anyone needs

Crystal NightingGale

Crystal NightingGale

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Me/E

I also have a Hotmail account and Guild Wars had never sent me and email with my login or password. Just a confirmation that I have created an account. Besides, my email has never been hacked. Only fools get their emails hacked.

Padre

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dragon Eye

Mo/W

for those that want Gmail for GW, i have about a million invites too.

corax5

corax5

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ye olde England.

Personally i use a Gmail account myself, but i was wondering what exactly is the difference between that and hotmail that makes Gmail so "safe"?

egads

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Not much really. Gmail just has much better organisation, far less intrusive ads, more space, etc.

I'm definitely privacy concious myself, but reading about Gmail being evil never fails to make me roll my eyes. I can live with a computer searching my email to match terms to Google ads, with absolutely no human involvement whatsoever.

I did a quick Google search and found a rather nice article outlining my feelings on the distrust of Gmail.

Synncial77

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by egads
Not much really. Gmail just has much better organisation, far less intrusive ads, more space, etc.
Well, I recieve my hotmail content through my email program (outlook express) so I don't get ANY ads and I can organize it filter anyway i see fit. I've also had it for 7 years and have yet to have a problem.

Anyways, people shouldn't be using the same password for everything they do online. I have different "levels" of passwords myself. My hotmail has a specific password, as does Guild Wars and my online banking. Everything else (forums, site registrations, etc) have the same passwords since they aren't really important and won't affect me in any way if they get "stolen" or hacked.

Paladin_Adoni

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Cult of the Sacred Axe

W/Mo

My secret word on hotmail has the following hint:

a number you know well...

and the answer is a totally random and irrelevant to anything large number with some 1 replaced with i etc (but not all)

guess that hackers!