Pre-Order Weapons

Reeves

Reeves

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

I'm just trying to figure out what weapon comes with what pre-order. This is what I know so far. I really know what comes with the GameStop pre-order because I work there but the others Im not to sure about.

Collectors Game - Aura
GameStop pre - Hammer
EB pre - (I think a bow)
Best Buy pre - (I think a shield)

Is there any more pre-order weapons and also in the game can we trade these items?

Joysze

Joysze

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Heres a list of all the pre-order items available. And no you can't trade them. They're locked into your account.

The six unique items are:

* Best Buy: Kanthan Targe
* Electronics Boutique: Ithas Bow
* GameStop: War Pick
* CompUSA: Bone Idol
* All others in North America: Censor's Icon
* North America Collector's:Aura
* Europe: Chimeric Prism (NEW!)

Striker Shardale

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

Twin Cities, Minnesota

Serious Gaming -SG-

R/Mo

Oddly enough. I got the preorder and it did not show in the beta as I was doing it. Is it not supposed to show up on my characters till the actual game comes out?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

i wonder if the devine aura is different according to country or simply profession

bouncingsoulx

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

so i take it if i were to preorder from amazon i'd get a Censor's Icon

Reeves

Reeves

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Alright, thank you for the info! That really sucks that you can't trade them, I mean what if you didn't know what you where getting when you pre-order the game, that and I wanted to see if I could collect them all.

Chev of Hardass

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Under a rock

zP

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reeves
That really sucks that you can't trade them, I mean what if you didn't know what you where getting when you pre-order the game, that and I wanted to see if I could collect them all.
I am not trying to directly judge AreanNet here but this is the way the business part is going to work.

In the same way ATI loves the problems that people have running Guild Wars with N-Vidia cards, EB Games and Gamestop can count on more sales from people that want to have the "ideal weapon"

-I like this part- the good stuff doesn't come from Wal-Mart or Best Buy it comes from the smaller conglomerates selling videogames.

I just hope that all of these weapons can be salvaged after they are no longer useful.

CheopisIV

CheopisIV

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

Calgary, AB

And as far as usefulness, in my prior mmorpg gaming experience, the "free" in game items were a little bit below the level of usefulness beyond simply "looking cool". I'm hoping they will be good for a while, and I'm sure they'll be good for the intro levels, but by no means are they going to give us endgame items at lvl 1. In essence, I don't think the items will make that big a difference in gameplay overall, even though I did wait for EB to get another shipment so I could have the bow

Lansing Kai Don

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

Kansas

IMHO, I believe the previous post will be correct. But "if your willing to spend a little more" you can get the collector's edition and then you'd have an aura around you, which to me would be way cooler than a meager weapon (which it most likely will be... bow here too). But braggin rights are braggin rights.

Lansing Kai Don

Bgnome

Bgnome

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass
I just hope that all of these weapons can be salvaged after they are no longer useful.
it has been my experience in every single one of the BWEs that any equipment your character started with came customized under your name and was not salvageable. i doubt that this will change by retail..

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass

-I like this part- the good stuff doesn't come from Wal-Mart or Best Buy it comes from the smaller conglomerates selling videogames.

I just hope that all of these weapons can be salvaged after they are no longer useful.
the best part of this is that they are customized to you

you cant give them away and you cant salvage a customized item

they will be good for the noob area and maybe look *COOL* but they will not unbalance the game by being extra powerful

YOU CAN HAVE THEM ALL

just buy a game from each source or pick them off the ground when someont throws them away because that item is worth less than a storage space

SNAKED AGAIN darn it

Chev of Hardass

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Under a rock

zP

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bgnome
it has been my experience in every single one of the BWEs that any equipment your character started with came customized under your name and was not salvageable. i doubt that this will change by retail..
In the defence of the facts, this only applies to started weapons/armor, not customized equipment. These pre-order weapons should not be "starter" by any means. I think it would be neat if we could not use these weapons till ????? Level 7 ?????? or something.

I am still peaved that there are weapons that cannot be salvaged. I like to recycle and I don't want to throw anything in the trash.

Reeves

Reeves

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Yeah, Im not really worryed about the use of the weapons, I just like to collect these types of weapons. I hate it when you can't get weapons, but if that is hows its going to be I can't do much about it. I'll be happy with what I got.

CheopisIV

CheopisIV

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

Calgary, AB

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
the best part of this is that they are customized to you

you cant give them away and you cant salvage a customized item

In this past beta weekend, i was able to salvage my upgraded, and customized armour (bug? I hope not) Now I don't mean the starter gear, that all needed to be destroyed, but my first pieces of crafted armour broke down into bolts of cloth (mes/ele) when i wanted to upgrade again.

Lansing Kai Don

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

Kansas

Quote:
Originally Posted by CheopisIV
In this past beta weekend, i was able to salvage my upgraded, and customized armour (bug? I hope not) Now I don't mean the starter gear, that all needed to be destroyed, but my first pieces of crafted armour broke down into bolts of cloth (mes/ele) when i wanted to upgrade again.
No, the not salvageable items are ONLY starting items, they will have the word Starter in front of them (for weapons I know) not for sure on armor, but pretty positive... whatever you start with you can't salvage also some quest items, I couldn't from pre-searing ascalon to post-searing.

Lansing Kai Don

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass
In the defence of the facts, this only applies to started weapons/armor, not customized equipment. These pre-order weapons should not be "starter" by any means. I think it would be neat if we could not use these weapons till ????? Level 7 ?????? or something.

I am still peaved that there are weapons that cannot be salvaged. I like to recycle and I don't want to throw anything in the trash.
these are not leet uber items

they are a small bonus to help you in the very start of the game

it is not something that is a mighty get to this level now i am god weapon

and if you switch professions before retial as i did i am glad it is not anything special to lose

and people who only have access to some places have no choice on what they get compared to their chacter

it is small get over it

Chev of Hardass

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Under a rock

zP

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
these are not leet uber items

they are a small bonus to help you in the very start of the game

it is not something that is a mighty get to this level now i am god weapon

and if you switch professions before retial as i did i am glad it is not anything special to lose

and people who only have access to some places have no choice on what they get compared to their chacter

it is small get over it
/Chev of Hardass smiles, waves, keeps his mouth shut and wonders how someone titled as a Ministry of Knowledge could:

Think a level 7 weapon would be an end all?

-I would just LIKE to use the weapon not junk it before getting to Seared Ascalon.

Would even think that there won't be people going to game shops they have never been into just to try out the ______(fill in what you might have gotten if you had bought based on what you got.

-I bought mine at the only place in town, Best Buy. So, I know the pain and don't care, not that the internet wouldn't have solved this.

Would think everyone would only have one class of character?

-Really???

Or would miss the joke about being peaved about not being able to salvage the one set of "starter" weapons.

-I am worried about filling the landfills in Ascalon, but I am more concerned about filling them with dead Carr.

/Chev of Hardass quietly goes back to work............

Aria

Aria

Sig Fairy

Join Date: Feb 2005

Once upon a time..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
i wonder if the devine aura is different according to country or simply profession
Gaile has the answer.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile
Will the aura look the same for all my characters? The aura will appear different for each profession. Remember, this is the boon of the gods, and each profession has a different deity. So each type of character will be surrounded by an aura that is distinctive in both colour and shape. I pray for lavender.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

and the really big laugh is that none of the characters i will wind up with will need the hammer i thought i would want

incidently in green askalon it will be the best weapon for started characters regardless of profession until at least level 4-5 as you can do more damage faster with melee weapon than the starter skills at those levels

EDIT

i am no longer tied to the hammer as i upgraded to the collectors for the aura not the item

EDIT AGAIN

Aria thank you

Chev of Hardass

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Under a rock

zP

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
I am no longer tied to the hammer as I upgraded to the collectors for the aura not the item.
That may be the coolest/worst thing I have heard all day. I am getting the Collectors Edition purely for the headset and cloth map, I thought I would not loose the Shield (not that I anticipated using it with my new main character, Mo/R). I guess I had gotten the impression that I would get both. Oh well, I would rather have the Aura anyway. I will pick up one of them fancy atribute gaining shields later on in the game when I need it anyway.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

there is a collectors item as well but i forget what it is

you will not be left out itemwise but who knows if it will be useful to you (or me)

CheopisIV

CheopisIV

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

Calgary, AB

Again, the weapon/item may be a useless trinket that shows prestige (beta CoH people were actually "shiny") but I'd like to know if its going to be a "pick a character to have the thingie" or if all 4 chars get one? More than likely the pick-a-char route.

Aria

Aria

Sig Fairy

Join Date: Feb 2005

Once upon a time..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass
That may be the coolest/worst thing I have heard all day. I am getting the Collectors Edition purely for the headset and cloth map, I thought I would not loose the Shield (not that I anticipated using it with my new main character, Mo/R). I guess I had gotten the impression that I would get both. Oh well, I would rather have the Aura anyway. I will pick up one of them fancy atribute gaining shields later on in the game when I need it anyway.
Um.. you DO get both. That is, of course, assuming that you put your CE code into the same account that you put your preorder code in.

Gaile has confirmed this also.

Don't worry..

And yes, all characters get it. Even if you delete the character later, the new character you create will also have it. The items are connected to the account, not the characters.

Chev of Hardass

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Under a rock

zP

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
there is a collectors item as well but i forget what it is

you will not be left out itemwise but who knows if it will be useful to you (or me)
Wouldn't it be cool if the Collectors item was a Tommy Gun, or Bazooka that could only attack people in town. Imagine the chaos .

Those of us with real weapons would just force the respawn of innocent people trying to have naked dance parties.

Alas,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joysze
* North America Collector's:Aura

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

oh well it is good for any profession i start so nothing is lost

thank you again

Curlyfry

Curlyfry

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

New York City

ya. I know that the aura is different according to professions, and that you only get it when the weapon is equipted, but will each different character get a different weapon/item, or will everyone get a sword, or will each profession get a different weapon?!

ps: I hope that each character gets a different aura item, that way, everyone gets a unique weapon.

Aria

Aria

Sig Fairy

Join Date: Feb 2005

Once upon a time..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curlyfry
ya. I know that the aura is different according to professions, and that you only get it when the weapon is equipted, but will each different character get a different weapon/item, or will everyone get a sword, or will each profession get a different weapon?!

ps: I hope that each character gets a different aura item, that way, everyone gets a unique weapon.
Um.. I don't see what you're trying to ask. >.<

The aura isn't a "weapon." It should just be another piece of equipment that can be worn, or taken off. And since you know that the aura is different according to professions.. that would also imply that if you have all four characters with four different primary professions, then each character will have a different aura based on the profession.

And.. there's nothing about "weapons" connected with the aura. A few of the preorder items, on the other hand, are weapons. The preorder items are different depending on where you preorder. However, if you preorder from EBgames, for example, and buy the CE, then ALL of your characters will have the bow. The aura will change depending on the character.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

FROM GW

Exclusive In-game Item, the “Divine Aura”
Only an elite few gain the attention and favor of the gods, but those who do receive a celestial gift—a Divine Aura, a glowing visible token of their god’s blessing. When players purchase the Collector’s Edition of Guild Wars, each of their characters will receive this unique in-game item. Characters who equip the item are surrounded by a unique aura determined by the god who has bestowed it, and the item itself has a shape and color distinctive to that specific god. Once blessed by the gods, Divine Aura stays with a character; it cannot be traded or given to others.

Curlyfry

Curlyfry

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

New York City

ya, umm, what exactly does divine aura do? Is it just there to make you look cooler than others? Does it amplify your classes skills (example-rangers get +5 on marksmanship)? Or does it constantly heal you or boost damage or something?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

it looks cool

5 to marksmanship when a top rune only gives 3

give me a break

Aria

Aria

Sig Fairy

Join Date: Feb 2005

Once upon a time..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curlyfry
ya, umm, what exactly does divine aura do? Is it just htere to make you look cooler than other Does it amplify your classes skills (example-rangers get =5 on marksmanship)? Or does it constantly heal you or boost damage or something?
There has been no official announcement on whether or not the aura will have any benefits. At the moment, it seems like it's just a purely aesthetic item. However, Gaile has said that if it does have any sort of benefit, it won't be earthshattering, or anything grand. Balance goes before everything, and it won't be anything that unbalances the game.

So, I wouldn't expect too much. I'm happy just with glowing. It's less a benefit, and more of a "this is my sign that I support ANet avidly" for me.

And yes, I -am- an avid fan.

EDIT: And yes, all of the benefits you listed are.. well, highly implausible, I'm sorry. There's no way that ANet would even think about adding most of those, since even I can see that it'll cause a huge balance issue.

Curlyfry

Curlyfry

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

New York City

o man, i was hoping for a little boost above other non-special edition buyers!!! will i glow a color, and can i see w/ it better in like a crypt or other dark area?

Aria

Aria

Sig Fairy

Join Date: Feb 2005

Once upon a time..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curlyfry
o man, i was hoping for a little boost above other non-special edition buyers!!! will i glow a color, and can i see w/ it better in like a crypt or other dark area?
You'll glow. That's a nice bragging thing if you want. Isn't that enough?

As for seeing better in crypts.. um.. everyone sees pretty well in dark caves already. The released version doesn't have many indoor/cavern areas (most notable being the ice caves in the Shiverpeaks and the catacombs in pre-searing).. and the devs have said that they're saving most "dungeon"-like areas for a later expansion.

So no, you really don't need to be a walking lamp-post. And honestly, do you really want to have a glowing radius reminiscent of some huge firefly? A lot of people are afraid of the very opposite -- that it'll look tacky. (I personally can't wait to see it..) But on a purely rational level.. just think of that effect in Tombs. Hey! Target the glow-guy! KILL!!

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curlyfry
o man, i was hoping for a little boost above other non-special edition buyers!!! will i glow a color, and can i see w/ it better in like a crypt or other dark area?
if you can see it depends on the quality of your video card

and the boosts you mentioned were not small by any stretch of the imagination

they were more size

Dave III

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

I'm always where I'm at, or else I'm nowhere, man.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aria
You'll glow. That's a nice bragging thing if you want. Isn't that enough?
I'm hoping there's lots of "bragging rights" items about. Things you have to earn (rather then pay for... that's not entirely fair for everyone) by going through the missions and solving them in challenging or creative ways.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aria
But on a purely rational level.. just think of that effect in Tombs. Hey! Target the glow-guy! KILL!!
Snerk. ^_^
Or conversely, one's party members might have to tell him, "Hey, Glow-Boy. Ya wanna tone it down before you aggro every monster in the dungeon?" ^_^

Dave III

Joysze

Joysze

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Striker Shardale
Oddly enough. I got the preorder and it did not show in the beta as I was doing it. Is it not supposed to show up on my characters till the actual game comes out?
You'll only get your item upon game release.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bouncingsoulx
so i take it if i were to preorder from amazon i'd get a Censor's Icon
Yuppers. ^.^

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aria
<snip> ... just think of that effect in Tombs. Hey! Target the glow-guy! KILL!!
ROFL! Although you could be lucky enough to be in a team of glowers. That'll confuse them!!!

Aria

Aria

Sig Fairy

Join Date: Feb 2005

Once upon a time..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joysze
ROFL! Although you could be lucky enough to be in a team of glowers. That'll confuse them!!!
Oh geez.. just imagine that..

"We have come to bring thee light, all ye blasphemers of the Tombs!!"

"Hey look at glow-boy over there.."

"Wow.. pretty colors.."

"BLASPHEMER! These mantles of light have been bestowed by the gods themselves! Prepare for thy absolute destruction as the rays of our glorious ---"

...

"Wow.. even their corpses glow.."


Disclaimer: I am in no way trying to convince others not to get the aura. I, in fact, will be glowing with the rest of the glow-boys/girls. And no, I don't talk like that normally.. geez..

And to bring a semblence of staying on topic.. I know that people were discussing PvE rewards.. especially aesthetic awards.. and with the WoW (Worlds at War, not War of Warcraft!) concept, with that special area that can be opened by the team hold HoH, I'm suspecting that we might get quite a few bragging rights. Well.. at least at first..

Lews

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Seattle, Washington

R/E

So basically if you get the special one you glow? Heh.