TS vs. Vent - Your Opinion?

Rafe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

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For PvE and PvP what do you think is best?
I don't think its needed for most PvE
For PvP, I think Vent is better, but thats just because TS doesn't work on my comp.
I have heard that Vent is better for advanced users and TS is better if you are newer.
I know XoO uses TS and Te and EviL use Vent.


What do you guys think?

kazujin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

E/Mo

I prefer Ventrilo over Teamspeak. I had less issues vent in the past.

romO

romO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chicago

Idiot Savants [iQ]

Mo/

vent is clearer and has less lag. this really isnt even an issue. if anyone were to try them both out, vent is obviously the better choice. the only reason why anyone would ever use ts is when they want a private server and cant acquire a private vent.

Athis Strider

Athis Strider

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

California

R/Mo

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=125466

Check that thread out. Should answerer some questions for ya.

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

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For me they both have the same sound quality and neither causes lag spike issues.

They are both great so it is really just what interface you like best.

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

If you dont have a password vent is far better. Not having some one come in and yell "AMERICA RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO YEAH!". Also on Vent when some one comes in it says their name.

SOOOOOOOOOo Vent > TS

P.S. Sorry for the "F-Word" givin for authenticy.

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

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Why have TS and no password? You are just asking to have someone do stupid stuff like that.

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx
Why have TS and no password? You are just asking to have someone do stupid stuff like that.
I have to agree but mainly GW TS servers r Public.

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

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I have a guildie that runs a TS server off of his home PC so I don't have to worry about that.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

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Vent = Less Bandwidth.

That's why Vent is better.

4runner

4runner

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cali!!!

cdxx/the420th.com

Mo/N

in regards to the static, cuple of things!

Use push to talk for TS! not the voice activated, thats were alot of the static and am radio quality comes from! PUSh to talk Suckssss111!

thunderpower

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Europe

KiSS

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4runner
in regards to the static, cuple of things!

Use push to talk for TS! not the voice activated, thats were alot of the static and am radio quality comes from! PUSh to talk Suckssss111!
Push to talk is necessary if you listen to music and you don't use a headset for that. It take 2 min of configuring the right level for vent and mp3 or whatever player

My other temopary solution was Vent configured for a secondary sound card i plugged my heaset into and music playing on primary card using 5.1 speakers. Althou i had issues with hearing the music.

For me TS or vent is just the same.

crimsonfilms

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Vent = Less Bandwidth.
That is false it is all based on codec.

Both are actually pretty much the same in regards to quality and lag.

Quality is determined by the codec which they share some of the most common one.

Lag is based on your host server.

Interface wise is the difference. At that level, it is more of personal choice.

Either one - a personal server is the best route.

Grimm

Grimm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

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I think they're both fine, though I prefer the interface for TS by far. In ventrillo, everyone sounds like they're whispering or talking really quietly all the time for some reason. Not as far as volume, but sound quality.

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

Those bindings on some vent servers are damn handy..are those available on TS too? These days, the bulk of the HA groups I play with use vent, although in the past I felt obliged to leave parties as I couldn't figure out how to use the damn thing. How the hell was I to know that 'sb vent' meant 'gw-vent.com?'

yangster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Asian Syndicate

Me/E

Vent because I can clearly hear people's voices than TS which you can have the volume at maximum and the people still can't hear you. I use TS though when no one has vent because of it's public servers. I know Vent has one but I forgot what the address was.

The Renegade Healer

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

NYC

Go Hoax Yourself [HOAX]

Mo/Me

I prefer vent, IMO the sound quality is much better. However, I use TS more often because it's more popular, and much more user friendly.

d4nowar

d4nowar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonfilms
That is false it is all based on codec.

Both are actually pretty much the same in regards to quality and lag.

Quality is determined by the codec which they share some of the most common one.

Lag is based on your host server.

Interface wise is the difference. At that level, it is more of personal choice.

Either one - a personal server is the best route.
Many people will choose TS over Vent because of the 24 person free servers. By free servers I mean the ones running off of your home computer. Vent has only an 8 person personal server. On these personal servers you can't change the codec (at least I think you can), and its a low quality one. Low quality + few people = Decent. Low quality + tons of people = ASDCVAJEKLJGKLDFXCGJAEFKLGJ.

UltimaXtreme

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Vent because of many reasons

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Vent has better sound quality, but if you don't want to be forced to use professional hosting services or a laggy public server, go for TS.

The "free" Vent server you can download from their page is nothing but a demo program. 8 slots - that's laughable. And they don't even SELL you licenses to set up your own server, they FORCE you to buy hosting services. I can't really say I like that business model.

With Teamspeak you can still set up your own server with 100 slots for free - that's enough for most guilds out there. And if you actually take the time to CONFIGURE that server, the sound quality is good enough and it won't lag much, too.

I will use Vent only when I am forced to, such in a HA PUG which insists on it - especially because it makes me change my operating system, since there is STILL no Vent client for Linux.

Thinking about it, I really wonder why Vent is so popular...

Shen Xi

Shen Xi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

London, UK

Laziness Appreciation Society [LaZy]

Mo/

Because imo and many others sound quality and lag are better on vent, it's what all the main guilds use and i find it simpler to use and setup too.
That and there's sb vent too...

Sakashi

Sakashi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

United Kingdom

[VII] The Midgar Zolem

E/Mo

^ OMG clone :P


Vent : Because you can control other people's volume levels individually! Very handy with loudmouths who won't adjust thier mic volume to the rest.

Shut Your Mouth

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Deathspawn Elite

Mo/N

I have used both for my guild. We have all come to the conclusion that Vent does provide a much clearer sound quality and does not create as much lag. Yet this as with all things is a personal opinion.

Vent>TS

Xioden

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Personally TS is much easier to configure, with more options, where for vent the options just don't seem to be there.

I also can't say I've ever had a problem with lag on TS...

It is too bad TS has lower sound qualities than vent does, but unless your comparing them side-by-side its not something people will really notice after using it for a little while (at least after using TS exclusively for a while didn't find myself cursing the low-quality, I don't think it ever really crossed my mind). The problem then just comes from idiots who refuse to properly setup their mic (And that isn't a problem unique to TS).

blood4blood

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

I've used both for years (other games)...as someone else said, if you're having sound quality or lag issues with either one, it's more about the codec being used and the host than the program itself. I've had equally good (and bad) experiences with both programs. One TS host I knew set up multiple channels with different codecs and bandwidth requirements so as to account for different users (everyone just used the "lowest common denominator" channel depending on who was on at the time). Personally I like vent for the comment features, otherwise they're pretty much equal.

Josh

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4runner
in regards to the static, cuple of things!

Use push to talk for TS! not the voice activated, thats were alot of the static and am radio quality comes from! PUSh to talk Suckssss111!
There's a setting for voice activation in TeamSpeak...

TS > Vent

Ventrilo seems a bit, awkward with settings, it's just not as clear. And TS has a nice clean look, and good interface.

Ezekial

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Shadow Knights

W/Mo

I think vent is better then TS for 2 reasons.

#1 Comments - These are very usefull at most times for many reasons.

#2 Sound Effects - This is something not many people know about but if you right click someones name, go to Misc. then to sound effect you can adjust peoples volume from 0% - 800% great for managing the people that come in with really loud outbound.

I don't know if TS has those things though, I know they have a form of comments but thats it.

crimsonfilms

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

I repeat VENT does not have better sound quality. TS does not have better sound quality.

The quality is dictated by the CODEC used. If you are TS or Vent admin you can select which codec you prefer (less compression will increase latency).

Vent does support a slightly less compressed version of the Speex or GSM codec. HOWEVER, barely any server I have been on uses this codec. Most of them select the "medium quality" codec - especially if you have a lot of people on the server.

The difference is the interface - that is pretty much it.

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

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For me Vent is better connection and thats all i care about. The big difference for me was that whjen i got TS and Vent at first it was easier to use vent then ts