Best Place to Farm NOW, coz Anet nerfed giffing...

Homicidal Brainiac

Homicidal Brainiac

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

New Zealand [NZL]

Hundred Companions [HC]

It's sad but true...

So what IS the best place to farm now?

TIA

Edit: er, typo on title, meant to be "griffing"

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Pretty sure there were already better places.

RaabTheGuru

RaabTheGuru

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Southern California

Wizards Anomyous [WoA]

N/Me

Instead of farming, how about turning the computer off. Grinding it out on a computer out of boredom of a game makes no sense to me.

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

It still works alright. FoW/UW has always been better though. You can still farm outside Drok's with no problem, though the drops are crap. I heard someone screaming in LA near Gaile that you could still farm Griffons in the S. Shiverpeaks outside of Rankor. Never tried it myself though.

I think farming taking a hit like this is a good thing. Economy will take a hit which is just... well. It's awesome.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

actually you will see the economy start to increase in prices now.

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

Weapons gained from farming go down in availability = prices up, yes.

Money being throw around goes down as well = less of a demand

Less of a demand = lower price

Oh no! People will have to make due with imperfect weapons.

RaabTheGuru

RaabTheGuru

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Southern California

Wizards Anomyous [WoA]

N/Me

Try going out of destiny's gorge. There's griffons out there to the left of the town, don tknow if scarabs are there or not.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol_Vie
It still works alright. FoW/UW has always been better though. You can still farm outside Drok's with no problem, though the drops are crap. I heard someone screaming in LA near Gaile that you could still farm Griffons in the S. Shiverpeaks outside of Rankor. Never tried it myself though.

I think farming taking a hit like this is a good thing. Economy will take a hit which is just... well. It's awesome.
Blessed griffons have horrible loot :/

Griffons were never the best place to farm, considering that the griffonfarming classes can solo UW...

kc99

kc99

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Scotland

Renaissance Desire

R/Mo

How did they nerf it exactly?

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

The additions of many many little scarabs.

SaucE

SaucE

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OgreSlayingKnife.com

[MEEP] Biscuit of Dewm

N/

I am very glad they added the scarabs. Now my guildies can't use "I am farming Griffon's" as an excuse.

Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

Nasty little scarabs, I tried a quick run in my lunch break just to see where the scarabs are, but they are right smack in the middle of the Griffo's.

FrogDevourer

FrogDevourer

on a GW break until C4

Join Date: Feb 2005

In your shadow

Servants of Fortuna

Since the auto-nerf patch, the desert has never been a good place to farm good weapons. It was the perfect bot area to hoard mountains of merchant junk, and to farm cash in a slow but simple and steady fashion. Sure, the occasional gold could be worth keeping, but griffon farmers were mostly newbie/unskilled/ignorant farmers, or bot users.

The desert was a very good influx of cash for the economy. Now that crappy farmers and bots cannot gather gold so easily, uncommon items (greens, ectos...) may become harder to sell in the long run. Selling rare stuff from SF/UW/FoW/Tombs is the best option for skilled farmers if you have a large base of unskilled but rich farmers. Removing one very popular source of junk NPC fodder and cash may strongly affect the middle-range economy (read: not casual players who couldn't afford basic stuff anyway, nor insanely rich players or hardcore farmers).

Peewee

Peewee

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

London, England

I Uprising I [RAGE]

R/

Death to Farming!

i think that leaves you with no question over my position on farming issues. Really, if you get upset becuase you cant make as much money out of tedious, unskillful griffon farming, then go play another game, or better still put some of those hours into doing something else. I cant see the point in playing a game for farming, it makes no sense to me. Why on earth would you want to sit through the tedium of farming in order to get 15k, or maybe even FoW that says nothing about you apart from 'i have too much time' or 'I know how to use PayPal'

Personally i had to solo farm griffons by trapping, thats where i got a fair bit of cash for 15k armour. Other than trapping in UW (with 2-5 man teams) there is very little rangers can do to farm solo, or in reduced groups. The vast majority of my money came from selling things i had accumulated over time, that I got from missions etc, and not from farming. Mesmers have it worse, and necros dont have a good situacion either. Elementalists to, have also been unable to farm as effectively since they nerfed aoe. Thats is why it gets my goat when people complain when they can no longer gain a frankly unfair advantage from their choice of proffesion.

I think if you want to make money it should be done in teams, with other people, possible doing quests or missions. Its far less boring than killing for moneys sake, and although it may take longer, things you enjoy tend to fly by, things that are boring just seem to take for ever, so there is a psychological aspect as well. I salute ANET therefore for taking griffon farming out of the picture, despite the fact that it was my main source of income from a farming point of view. I could do UW, but I have had nothing but bad luck (save a very lucky break which allowed me to obtain spider) I went down 15-20 times, and never saw an ecto. I also decided to stop because I want to PLAY gw, and not do it because it is a chore. Some people like grinding, personally I think they need a full frontal lobotomy, but that’s just my opinion.

While they nerf griffon farming, lets put in chilblains to piss of those 55hp monks as well. Who cares if those poor 55hp monks lose a substantial source of gold that other professions never had. If the professions are equal in pvp, then doesn’t it make sense to make them equal in pve?

Right, I have finished ranting. I am primarily a pvp player, so these things don’t concern me much. However. When factions arrives I intend to go back to PvE, until it gets boring, so these things may start to matter more to me.

Battle Torn

Battle Torn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scotland

W/Mo

I think the introduction of green weapons had a larger inpact on the economy for gold items (other than upgrades) or rare skins that you didnt find in the desert anyway. Chest running in FoW seems popular these days with groups of warriors, but it takes patience and lots of keys before you get anything worth finding. I forsee an increase in chest running due to this update.

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

Griffon farming outside Destiny's Gorge is easily as effective (and sometimes more so) than Augury Farming. The number of griffons you can reach quickly is spawn-dependant and Rockshot Devourers can come in groups of 3-5 sometimes but otherwise there are no problems.

You can easily find groups of 4-5 griffons close to each other, similar to Prophet's Path. If you get a good spawn, the run is much shorter.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peewee
Mesmers have it worse
I can solo:

Labyrinth/Vale/Smites/Unwanted guests in UW
Small parts of FoW
Griffons (blessed and previously desert)
Trolls
Minotaurs
Avicara
Forest Titans
Hydras

Nerf me! Nerf all mesmers!

Quote:
hy on earth would you want to sit through the tedium of farming in order to get 15k, or maybe even FoW
Because I can. And that's the ideological rift between me and you, that we will never bridge. Don't start on it.

Quote:
Who cares if those poor 55hp monks lose a substantial source of gold that other professions never had
Me. Because warriors can solo more than monks (and they got BUFFED in the recent update, Racthoh is happy ><), mesmers and necros use 55hp to solo rapidly as well, eles have earth armors, rangers... have stuff. If you nef 55hp, you leave warriors once again the premier class of guild wars, soloing FoW, UW, avicara, perdition rock, RoF, and everything else that moves. You economically demolish 3 classes in comparison. So how about no.

bebe

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

mountain trolls in the cave outside of droknars forge.

Battle Torn

Battle Torn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scotland

W/Mo

Quote:
i think that leaves you with no question over my position on farming issues. Really, if you get upset becuase you cant make as much money out of tedious, unskillful griffon farming, then go play another game, or better still put some of those hours into doing something else. I cant see the point in playing a game for farming, it makes no sense to me. Why on earth would you want to sit through the tedium of farming in order to get 15k, or maybe even FoW that says nothing about you apart from 'i have too much time' or 'I know how to use PayPal'
Geesh..your as much an idiot as you are a nOOb, to suggest everyone who farms has too much time os uses pay pal is short sighted and incorrect.... there are lots of good reasons to farm... I have lovely FoW armour to show for my farming and it gave me a reason to play the game for months as do many other games that reward dedicated players. Building up resources is an essential part of any game, so stick to your little teams and let those who do enjoy an certain aspect of the game get on with it. Also its a bit hypocritical flaming farmers when your own income was mainly from this....did you have too much time on your hands then and do you use PayPal?

Grasping Darkness

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

At the beginning of the kryta mission theres a house to the left. If you go behind it and kill the hellhound a bunch of monsters appear. If first you run up to the top of the small hill where the ascalon farmers are running away from the baddies it triggers more monsters behind the house to appear when you go down there. It's turns out like 700g in a couple minutes if you do it fast and sell to the merchant.

Sofonisba

Sofonisba

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tucson, AZ

The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]

Like Frog Devourer so aptly stated, I am a noob, a crappy, unskilled farmer.

Truthfully, I only started farming a week ago and I've had this game since last May. Augury griffons are the perfect beginning area for a noob such as myself. Considering that I would go out there maybe once per day, for 20 minutes before I have to leave for work, for some mere pocket change, I would have to say I'm pretty disappointed that that option is no longer there for me.

That said, if it decreases commercial farming, ok, I'll get over it. Just makes it more difficult for casual farmers like me.

SirShadowrunner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

at the beach

Gamerzunlimited (GU)

R/

So they put a few scarab's in there huh, no problem, a warrior should still be able to
handle this, just have to run and heal more, if you go out of Thirsty river to farm griffons over the tele-porter, you will already know how to deal with them!!!!!!!!!

I just wish they would fix the bot-farming situation, is this possible??
I would completely remove any account that bot-farmed even one time, that is
pure cheating no other answer, and if it is being used to make real money by selling
gold, which I see at several of the major GW websites, then seems like it is kind of
accepted in a way.

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peewee
I think if you want to make money it should be done in teams, with other people, possible doing quests or missions. Its far less boring than killing for moneys sake, and although it may take longer, things you enjoy tend to fly by, things that are boring just seem to take for ever, so there is a psychological aspect as well.
Fantastic - you advocate us being forced into groups. All the fun of random groups - just brilliant. If you want money you're forced to endure all the junk that comes. REZ PLZ! srygtg school, OMGMONKHEAL!@!!@#! and all the rest. Brilliant idea, just brilliant. I solo for a few reasons and it's not just for the efficiency of it.

Fine, have areas with unique rewards (ie. SF and ToPK) that force you into groups, but nerfing major solo areas seems dumb to me. If Anet wanted to shutdown bots then there are better ways to do it.

Sofonisba

Sofonisba

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tucson, AZ

The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirShadowrunner
So they put a few scarab's in there huh, no problem, a warrior should still be able to
handle this, just have to run and heal more,
Not saying it cannot be done; of course it can, and I did last night, but it took a lot longer than I usually have during the day to farm. I may find another convenient place to make a few bucks once a day, we'll see.

(However, my persecution complex dictates that it is only because I started farming that they made this particular area more time-consuming!)

Young Hero

Young Hero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mi

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirShadowrunner
So they put a few scarab's in there huh, no problem, a warrior should still be able to
handle this, just have to run and heal more
Hmm... slight problem with that.The scarabs kill ALL but 3-4 griffs so theres no more to farm.I think the addition of scabs is funny myself.Sure one of my crop fields has been ruined, but there are still many places to solo.

ANd this griff field was not a place for Nubs/unskilled/ignorant farmers, it was a good place to rotate one's crops.

SirShadowrunner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

at the beach

Gamerzunlimited (GU)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Young Hero
Hmm... slight problem with that.The scarabs kill ALL but 3-4 griffs so theres no more to farm.
Not good, thx for the info, wonder if they made any new areas we now need to find??
I know of three other griff spots just not as easy to get to, I wonder about them to.

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

My farming days are far from over. Just lost 1 spot. I guess Ill have to find a successful way to kill scarabs. Farming is really the only guaranteed way to make money, besides running and chest running. I don't mind uw or fow groups if they know what they are doing, but thats usually not the case. If you prefer to play a specific character class, then your choices are often limited. Most uw or fow groups are looking for a specific class build, and you either have to adapt to the demand of others or just don't get in a group. This applies to ORO Farming and the New UW also. The beauty of solo farming is that you get to play the game on your own term and get 8 times the drops in the process in way of gold or items. It's been said over and over again, but the only way to promote teamwork is to give people an incentive to team up with others. Increasing gold drops and the quality of item drops in larger groups would definately help. I still don't understand why A-net doesn't do this? On another note, I love the buffs to the warrior, my farming warrior kicks ass!

Da Deathblade

Da Deathblade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

CA

W/

Oh I wouldn't say griffon farming is nerfed...I tried it last night and from the four griffons I killed, dropped four black dyes. Anet obviously missed something, made 30k from killing four griffons. And this was with the scarabs

Bim Bom

Bim Bom

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Euro

^^ Wish i would be as lucky as you to get 4 black dyes like that

actionjack

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

On the issue of farming...

I think it is more sad that the end-game content is dwindle down to who can farm the best...

TimberOwl

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Maybe Anet's final goal is to make the warrior the best class in the game? They might be W/Mo junkies with no skills and no imagination? Therefore they nerf every faming spot except for the warriors, then buff them to make sure that noobs can do it?

Heh, only a stupid suggestion, but hey, who knows...

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Temptress
mountain trolls in the cave outside of droknars forge.
Horrible loot. Great experience. I've gotten one rare from them. Ever. But like I said, awesome for experience. That's why my war is unlocking many of the skills for that particular account.

Reverend Jekyll

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Army of None (AON)

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol_Vie
Horrible loot. Great experience. I've gotten one rare from them. Ever. But like I said, awesome for experience. That's why my war is unlocking many of the skills for that particular account.
Same here. Prior to that I was using a 55 Mo to get skill points from Hydras. Once I discovered the troll cave (overlooked because of the crap drops) I gave desert farming up almost completely.

Troll Cave + Slayers Insight = 3 SP/Hour.

Fantus

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peewee
Death to Farming!

[...]

Personally i had to solo farm griffons by trapping, thats where i got a fair bit of cash for 15k armour.
Hypocrite

What now - is farming good or evil???

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Jekyll
Same here. Prior to that I was using a 55 Mo to get skill points from Hydras. Once I discovered the troll cave (overlooked because of the crap drops) I gave desert farming up almost completely.

Troll Cave + Slayers Insight = 3 SP/Hour.
Admittedly, it isn't bad for gold though. I usually get 1-1.5k per run. Good for finding iron and wood too.

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol_Vie
Horrible loot. Great experience.
Hey I'v gotton over 40 keys from them that like 12K profit... over 5million xp... hmm maybe it is horrible... but I bet ppl will be begging for favor to goto UW after this hit, or do the P/B thing @ ToPK... theres fewer places to grind, I can still farm...
\\Kryta
Fire Imp's
Lightning Drake's
Ettin's
White Mantel
Mino's
Fen Troll's
Fog Nitemares not these anymore, MoS now life stealing
All undead within Sanctum Cay mission
\\Crystal Desert
Hydra's
Sand Gaint's
Sand Golem's
Sand Drake's
the Larou's (half man half ghoat ppl)
Enchanted's
Mino's
Rockshot's
\\Southern Shiverpeaks
Ice Seige Golem's
Moutain Troll's
Stone Summit
Tundra Gaint's
Grawl
Azure's
Blessed Griffon's
Ice Imp's

Well I wouldnt say theres a best place really... this was all with a 55 Mo/--
I did do the frost gate mission and got 2 gold armors from beastmasters...

DJCoastal

DJCoastal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Vancouver, BC, Canada

Mo/

theres a griffion place outside of destiny's if u exit from the east side... when ur out there go left and up... there are only like i duno groups of 4 griffions...? they dont really drop much and it takes longer to kill...

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dgb
Fantastic - you advocate us being forced into groups. All the fun of random groups - just brilliant. If you want money you're forced to endure all the junk that comes. REZ PLZ! srygtg school, OMGMONKHEAL!@!!@#! and all the rest. Brilliant idea, just brilliant. I solo for a few reasons and it's not just for the efficiency of it.

Fine, have areas with unique rewards (ie. SF and ToPK) that force you into groups, but nerfing major solo areas seems dumb to me. If Anet wanted to shutdown bots then there are better ways to do it.
once again GuildWars

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic Smile
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Gildor Took

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Australia, 3rd rock from the sun

Mo/

just farm for the new green for a couple of hours and sell the greens for as much as you can before they plummet. After you cashed in on that go farm the UW with a warrior