Well, I am stuck at school and cant try this at the moment so I was just wondering if you guys have tryed farming the new Scarabs that appear now. Can it be done with the normal Riposte builds? And is it even worth doing anymore?
But, hey. If it cant theres always bigger fish to fry!
Weeping
New Scarab W/Mo Farming?
Weeping Wind
Me NoFat
Just called a friend and he had little problem farming them with a 55 even with enchant removals...just have to be smarter than the mob. He said that a Warrior should have even less problems. I am thinking that I need to restate my overhealing farmers......I am thinking of dropping liv vic and mending (dont want to mess enchantments) and placing HB back in my build. I am at work so I will have to play with it some.
akkarin
they have degen aswell as far as i know.. so that will make a few.. am well yes a "few" problems
Weeping Wind
Well. As soon as I am able I am going to take a look at what they have actually done and get down to sorting out a build for it. And then test to see what the drops are like. If they are try Scarabs then they will fight with range which altogether cuts out Riposte builds. But, the cyclone axe + Spirit + Live Viq might still be possible 
I cant wait to try this and see what the drops are
Weeping
I cant wait to try this and see what the drops are
Weeping
akkarin
if that would still be possible than the bots would still be possible aswell.. dont you think so?
Me NoFat
Yes they are still possible. The nerf puts a very large dent into their current money maker. As long as there is a game there will be bots. It is human to cheat. There is always a way to cheat.
lambda the great
Hundred blades
Galrath
Finaluy thrust
Riposte
Dolyak
WY!
healing sig
flurry
If you want them to degen you
Hundred
Severy
Gash
IWS
PR
Dolyak
Healing sig
Galrath
Finaluy thrust
Riposte
Dolyak
WY!
healing sig
flurry
If you want them to degen you
Hundred
Severy
Gash
IWS
PR
Dolyak
Healing sig
Weeping Wind
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if that would still be possible than the bots would still be possible aswell.. dont you think so?
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Yes they are still possible. The nerf puts a very large dent into their current money maker. As long as there is a game there will be bots. It is human to cheat. There is always a way to cheat.
You'll never beat the "Bots" you can try and make it harder for them thoug :P Cheers for the build Lambda. Any idea about drops? Weeping
cerb
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Hundred blades
Galrath Finaluy thrust Riposte Dolyak WY! healing sig flurry If you want them to degen you Hundred Severy Gash IWS PR Dolyak Healing sig I am not sure if you actually tried that. Riposte won't work since they are ranged and they make you bleed before using Virulence. Also, GL killing the boss with that setup.
Corinthian
How do you counter the Vampiric Touch spam by the marrow scarabs? If you try Healing Signet, you get distracted. You can heal with Shield Stance, but 2 touches and they completely negated the heal.
sh4ft3d
That would be interrupts my friend. You can check out my thred on scarabs (more shameless advertising) that i posted. I would like to see some replies to it.
Jiao Yang
I nearly killed all the scarab groups that eventually come and patrol the boss and his ring of scarabs with anti melee moves but as soon as they start vamp touch it all goes wrong.
Amsterdam
Just an FYI, it drops a green divine favor staff that has time reduction for protection prayers.
monty123
Plague Touch anyone?
dont feel no pain
ive just farmed them , its piss , but i cant cant get the queen below 50% health
16 sword 12 healing zealous sword of defence flurry pure strike galrath slash final thrust disrupting blow savage slash live vicously sprint all i needed to clear them ^^
Corinthian
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Plague Touch anyone?
I tried it, they just Plague Touch it back and cast Virulence. Nasty bugs.
Me NoFat
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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
ive just farmed them , its piss , but i cant cant get the queen below 50% health
16 sword 12 healing zealous sword of defence flurry pure strike galrath slash final thrust disrupting blow savage slash live vicously sprint all i needed to clear them ^^ I have an idea for the queen but you would have to fit smite into the mix...scourage healing...I will try it tomorrow
volsungxiii
I've noticed that the scarabs surrounding the queen don't really move. Even if you aggro them and run back, they stay.
I've tried taking the queen down with henchies (it was successful), and I just wanted to point out a couple of things that may help. There are two patrols of marrow scarabs, running back and forth where the queen is. Wait for one patrol to come and aggro them back to a safe distance. Do the same with the other patrol. Once you finish with them, do not rush the queen. The scarabs around her have made so many traps you'll drop dead. What I did was equip a bow and smack one of the scarabs surrounding the queen. She should come out of the center. Move back a bit to get some distance between you and the other scarabs (they interrupt and what not). The queen'll chase you. I don't know if this'll work for others, but I tried it and twice the queen came out and chased. Of course I did this with henchmen. If you're going to try and solo, definitely throw an interrupt skill in there, to disable guardian, or other skills that evades attacks. Again, it worked well when I was with henchies, but solo, not too sure. Hope this helps
Me NoFat
^ been playing with the same thing only solo. I can pull just the queen out of the group with a long bow. 1v1 you on the queen.
Starsky-sama
IMO. the minions arent really the problem. it's the queen itself...
has anyone soloed and actually taken her out fully w/ a warrior... (again, "solo")
Kaiser
Where are these Scarabs located? I wanna try to farm them using dont feel no pain's build. Are these the ones outside Elona's Reach?
Me NoFat
Outside Augury
wheel
If anyone would know how to defeat the bugs, it would have to be Neil Patrick Harris.
spellfall
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If anyone would know how to defeat the bugs, it would have to be Neil Patrick Harris.
I don't usually do this but...I love you lol...nice cultural reference there. And I'm gonna go try with my axe build, might fail miserably, but hey, no shame in trying. The shame lies in the posting of the video of me dying.
Katari
I managed to kill the queen solo, but it took *far* too long to be worthwhile. I brought apply posion along for the boss, since it isn't too bright when it comes to using CoP. Has anyone else had any luck? It feels like the best thing to do is force a CoP, and I can't think of a better way than apply posion.
.killjoy
i did it with a group of 4 today.. tank, me a healer and life bond, a mm and a nuker.. i knwo we could have done it 3 man
Amsterdam
Easy with a group of 3, warrior, MM, monk.
dont feel no pain
the scarabs can be killed realy easy but the queen is a pain in the butt , i've killed the scarabs with w/mes and w/mo but i cant do the queen alone >_<
FyrFytr998
I say a SS/SV Necro can help a warrior own the queen.
sartori
dont even have to kill the scarabs...you can lure them over to the griffon boss and he'll do it for ya
 i tried diversion to no avail....ended up 2-manning it with a build like this: axe 15 strength 11 tactics 8 inspiration 4 or so distracting blow (the generic one) distracting chop skull crack [e] berserker stance executioners strike peretrating blow healing sig physical resistance i got the boss down to about 1/3 but then my concentration slipped and i started missing my interrupts so she healed back up and i quit.....took too long to be fun, thats for sure *chuckle* maybe a sword would work better? i dont use it so i dont know...the key is this. she will cast guardian 2 swings after you distract (generic) the first one so if you go *distract...swing...swing...skull crack* you will hit her second guardian and daze her. from there its a battle to use the 3 distractions to stop RoF (really hard, even dazed) and mark of prot....this build is pretty difficult to maaintain on her so id welcome any improvement if you want to 2-man kill her, just bring a condition ranger and a bleed attack and its pretty easy along with this build.
Lambentviper
ANet nerfed the griffon's in the first place for a REASON!!!! using the same "strategy" of stancing and letting the mob kill itself wont work anymore! SO DONT APPROACH FARMING WITH THAT THOUGHT IN MIND!!
now you need to actually use some skill, (yes, SKILL) and strategy to farm!
BigTru
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now you need to actually use some skill, (yes, SKILL) and strategy to farm!
Oxymoron. Skill and Farming don't go together. Not a whole lot of strategy involved in ANYTHING PvE based, sadly.
You discover a build. You go out and farm. All enemies react the exact same way. You continue farming till the area is nerfed. You discover a new area. You discover a new build. You farm.
volsungxiii
The real question is what is the point in farming scarabs? They don't really drop anything special, and you can probably find an easier group of enemies to farm. Ok so you want to get the new green to sell it? Also a waste, since the new green is depreciating in value as we speak. By the time you actually get one, even if you get one, the price will be so low the time it took to get it wasn't even worth it.
Besides the "sheer excitement" of a new farm area, what else is the point to farming these?
dont feel no pain
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Not a whole lot of strategy involved in ANYTHING PvE based, sadly
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therefore pve does involve skill and stratagy 
Winstar
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The real question is what is the point in farming scarabs? They don't really drop anything special, and you can probably find an easier group of enemies to farm. Ok so you want to get the new green to sell it? Also a waste, since the new green is depreciating in value as we speak. By the time you actually get one, even if you get one, the price will be so low the time it took to get it wasn't even worth it.
Besides the "sheer excitement" of a new farm area, what else is the point to farming these? Actually I find the scarabs can give better gold drops than the griffons ever gave me. I got an axe with a +30 health mod and on the same trip another of our 3 man group got one as well. cheers
Klmpee
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Not a whole lot of strategy involved in ANYTHING PvE based, sadly.
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thats insulting 
, when your working on new spots that are considered impossible and you succed then you've used skill and strategy therefore pve does involve skill and stratagy
insulting yes..
is what he said true? yess..
lets talk about fissure of Woe.. as an example that their is no skill invovled.
all the monsters follow the same exact patrol path every single time you enter fissure of woe.. therefor remeber these movement patterns makes it very very easy. leading to no stratigy invovled except killing.. which is just click and click skills...
Now if they did change the movement patternes of ai.. i would have to disagree with myself.
with the success in farming what you think is immposible to farm.. its strat to do it for the first time.. next time when u get better and better, it becomes more skill rather then strat... or "farming" if u wanna say that,
therefore pve does involve skill and stratagy
insulting yes.. is what he said true? yess..
lets talk about fissure of Woe.. as an example that their is no skill invovled.
all the monsters follow the same exact patrol path every single time you enter fissure of woe.. therefor remeber these movement patterns makes it very very easy. leading to no stratigy invovled except killing.. which is just click and click skills...
Now if they did change the movement patternes of ai.. i would have to disagree with myself.
with the success in farming what you think is immposible to farm.. its strat to do it for the first time.. next time when u get better and better, it becomes more skill rather then strat... or "farming" if u wanna say that,
sh4ft3d
LOL. You just said there was no skill involved (read the above post) and then in the end you say that its more skill than strategy.
EDIT: About the apply poin... Interesting idea, will have to try... But oviously not on the scarabs. They spawn in groups of three now, more than at first... I think that they are changing it to keep people from fguring out a build... perhaps... will post again if I manage to kill the queen.
EDIT: About the apply poin... Interesting idea, will have to try... But oviously not on the scarabs. They spawn in groups of three now, more than at first... I think that they are changing it to keep people from fguring out a build... perhaps... will post again if I manage to kill the queen.
Zephyr Jackson
yah i got a 20% recharge blood
+5armor enchanted
Blood idol
except i havent gotten a refuge in 12 runs
+5armor enchanted
Blood idol
except i havent gotten a refuge in 12 runs
byteme!
I did about 20+ runs yesterday.
1)N/MO, N/ME, Healer Monk <------------fastest and best run (echo ss and mm totally raped the entire map with their dmg) *bring dark bond and spam heals on your minions and you can tank til the cows come home assuming you have a large army considering the massive amounts of corpses a mm can potentially achieve in this location*
2)N/MO, W/MO, Healer Monk <---------- successful but rather slow to my taste
3)N/MO, R/MO, Healer Monk <----------- same as going with a warrior, slow to my taste
4)N/MO, W/MO, Prot Monk <--------- life was easier with a healer
5)Gonna try other combinations and also I am the N/MO by the way.
1)N/MO, N/ME, Healer Monk <------------fastest and best run (echo ss and mm totally raped the entire map with their dmg) *bring dark bond and spam heals on your minions and you can tank til the cows come home assuming you have a large army considering the massive amounts of corpses a mm can potentially achieve in this location*
2)N/MO, W/MO, Healer Monk <---------- successful but rather slow to my taste
3)N/MO, R/MO, Healer Monk <----------- same as going with a warrior, slow to my taste
4)N/MO, W/MO, Prot Monk <--------- life was easier with a healer
5)Gonna try other combinations and also I am the N/MO by the way.
farmerfez
Man those queen runs are quik if u get a good group going, but as far as soloing...i got pretty far with a riposte build, if anybody wants to know what it is PM me ingame, Farmer Fez