Random arena leavers

it might yust be me but serious since off today ive never had so many leavers in this arena in 1 whole day whats up with people aaaaaagh

It's annoying. Though I don't do much RA myself, I have noticed many leavers before, especially monks. Monks want to be healing a team that does good damage. And people leave teams because there are no monks.

It's supposed to be random, that's what I find fun about it, finding a good random team and doing well, especially when you don't have a monk it's really fun to be winning. Some people don't take it as random, they take it as keep trying till you get a good nice balanced team with one or two healers and good damage and good players and no noobs, and then you can kill all the others. People that take RA that way really shouldn't be doing it, they should be going in team arenas and heroes ascent if they want a decent team.

If only everybody just took random arenas as being random, and had fun playing randomly.

Actually I have been thinking for awhile that there should be some sort of penalty for when you just randomly leave a group in RA and HoH. Like the first time you leave in a certain about of time you get a penalty of 30 seconds to join again...and then 1 minute if you leave again, 3rd time 5 minutes.

I am still pretty new to GW but here is what I really dislike about the game. The game advertises tactics and skill in pvp. But what I have found is that for most players they do not use either of those. If they don't find the exact right group or cant build the exact right group then they just leave and keep looking for the cookie cutter builds.

It's very annoying for someone who is new and wants to learn the basics of tactics etc...

Random is one thing. BS is another.
I'm going to rant a bit. Let me start by saying I hate people that leave.
That being said.
If someone on my team leaves then chances are good I may leave also. What fun is 4 on 3?
If someone on my team sacrifices themselves to death before the match and types in lol...well chances are good I'm not sticking around to play with the dumbass.
If I have a low level on my team (had a level 3), that's not fun, see the 4 vs 3 comment.
I hate leavers too but when two on your team drop off what is the point of sticking around to have your a$$ handed to you.
King- you seem like a purest. I'm not. I still don't understand how when I face an Asian team 90% of the time they have a monk in their group. Yet I can go 10-15 matches without getting one in mine. Random????
Yes it is a challenge but it's not fun. Neither is facing a team with two monks and two heavy damage dealers and you are all casters...not fun.
I'm not encouraging leaving, I hate it myself!! I would however, like for there to maybe be a little less randomness. How can I be on a team with no monk yet the other can have three?
What about afk'ers? I can't tell you how many times I've gone into a match and after my party is wiped out I see one person still standing in the spawn area not moving!!!!
You will say go to TA. Well my current guild is a PvE guild and I like to PvP. Those that I knew no longer play GW. The bigger arenas..blah. I don't care for them. Too much standing around waiting for everyone to get setup. When I want to PvP I just want to click on my enter mission button and go.
I think there are issues here that should be dealt with. I don't think there's much that can be done about Afk'ers and Sacrificers. I do think that by restricting low levels and making Random arena teams a bit more balanced and a little less random you may see a reduction in the number of people that just drop off right away.

Sinnr- I like your idea with a timed penalty. I've seen this another thread. That would be great.

It had happened last night to my opponents. About 5 out of 13 battles we fought were because the other team members left. One team had 2 monks and pretty good damage dealing with the others just by the professions but they left.

Here here, I hate leavers in RA. Now I dont go there a lot, but when I do, I am always amazed at how many leavers there are. Its bloody RA for chrissakes, where are they going, what are they hoping for ?
I think the problem stems from people just being purely ignorant, to both, the fact that it is RA(they should be in TA if they are after a specific group build), and the fact that RA is supposed to be fast and brutal combat(IMO), if you lose tuff luck, all you have to do is hit enter again, and lo and behold, you get another crack at it. People that take RA seriously are even more of a annoyance, I dont like to lose either, but, again, its RA, get over it all ready. So yeah leavers piss me off, among other things... end rant.

Well, the only two things that really bug me in RA are:

1) Leavers

2) Griefers (those annoying folks who bring only running skills, and zip around the arena like a fly looking for a good swatting)

It's one thing to kite heavy damage dealers, it's quite another to make your entire build around the principal of "hey I can run around like an idiot the entire match".

Anyway, that was straying off-topic a bit.

I don't think i've ever left an RA team in the entire time i've played guild wars. I've been in many a team who had a quitter, and beat the other team 4 vs 3 quite a few of those times. I agree the people who are looking for a specific setup should spend a few minutes in TA and find a group that suits them. RA has always been "the easy, painless" way of getting a group without having to sit in a district spamming "LFG". I like to call it "one-click PvP"

Sometimes you don't want to bother with making a strategy, finding an accepting (and skilled) group, and planning everything out. And yes, we all know those are the things that separate the good groups from the not-so-good, but even I am guilty of saying: "Man, I just want to pvp some or test out this build idea."

RA is the place to do just that.

How many threads has there been in the last month bemoaning the quantity of leavers? I'd say it's nearing triple figures..

I'm too cool to play with 'em anyway.

I've gone on winning streaks of 25+ starting from ca [err.. ra, now?] and had 2 leavers even before, me and another guy were the core... won a few matches on 2 on 4 ^^.]

I don't mind, they're probaly pretty crappy anyway. Besides, it's RA, why waste time there when I could be faring ******?

Marginally on-topic: i pwned your fire ele build in Random Arenas an hour or two ago. =)

@ the OP: It doesn't annoy me that much. People taking unbelievably stupid builds into arenas makes me want to cry.

It makes sense to me when someone leaves a group at the start or during a battle, but when they leave after they lose a match I can't work it out. Seriously, when your team loses there's about 5 seconds to wait until you're automatically rezoned, why the hell would you bother opening up the map and rezoning manually?

To save 5 seconds of time? It's not like they're benefiting anything from waiting to be rezoned by Guild Wars.

1. Press M
2. Click on chosen location.
3. Confirm

or

1. type GG.
2. wait for 3 seconds.

Anoying as hell of you ask me. I even stoped playing for a month or so couse of this leavers. They should really make some sort of penalty if you leave before the game starts or before everyone is dead (on either team). Man how many times i have used a ress signet just to see the noob leave 1s later.

Ok im aware that ppl could have conn problems or they have to leave somewhere fast, but thats easy to solve...this ppl dont want to come back to arena (soon) to get another group.

I really dont think there could be anything more anoying to a leaver than message after he leaves and tries to reconect into arena - " Thank you for playing this game. You seem to experience some trouble with leaving groups so please try again in 180s,179s,... Hopefully the problems will go away till then."

Sometimes people leave because they can't help it. Unexcpected real life situations, dissconnections, etc. That's why there's no penalty for this. I feel awful when I d/c but nothing I can do about it.

I hate peope who complain THEN leave, then their just being losers and I know it.

We all know fire eles are woeful in 4x4, but I wanted to see if the buff had made much a difference. It hadn't, I lost more matches than I won, and returned to the tombs where I had some degree of success. Gratz anyway^^

And while we're ~ on the topic of things that bother us in RA, how about people who like to whisper something insulting/derogatory/stupid to you, but they have their private chat off so you can't whisper back? An example.

Our team dies.

Me: Very gg, was close
Jerk(whisper): Haha, it wasn't close, I totally spanked your dumb ***.
Me(whisper): That's not very nice ...
-Player Jerk is not online-
Jerk(whisper): go play in traffic, you n00b.
Me(whisper): turn your private on, you jerk.
-Player Jerk is not online-

That little message does more to annoy me than the fact that he's being a jerk ... to a certain extent

Haha, good description!

When you leave you have to confirm that you do indeed want to leave the group. Hence, it would be no problem seperating the idiotic leavers from people that simply have connection problems.

Not really. A rage quitter can close Guild Wars just as easily as someone who Err7's and the game would treat in the same manner.