Favor always for Pvp?

Narutoscryed

Narutoscryed

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

In the woods

Elite Crew

W/E

After the recent update i have been thinkin.. i dont intend this thread to bitch or whine or anything. but i only mean to point out one possible long term outcome..
And for the reference.. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE GRIFFIN UPDATE. i call it an update. becase to call it a nerf would not be giving credit to the jewel that we have been given from this update. also among those jewels are the iway update. I belive that this was for the most part i feel the update was greatly fair for both parties.. both pvp and pve.. but one thing i noticed and did not like was the fact that they changed the stats for the hex helm for both pvp and pve. I can honestly understand the change for pvp ... but honestly why pve? No one was makin millions in pve off of runnin droks with that helm... nothing bad was happining.. but still from the protests (and well founded protests) of pvp people.. we pve felt the hit.. Personally i went to beacons every weekend. and ran to droks for free. now i cannot. im not good enough to deal with the constant changes in the first zone. and now this. i worry that all anet has done is make the pvp players happy in exchange for 1. makin people who repeat pve with different characters misserable from having to repeat the game over and over. and 2. now they have succesfully made it probable for for droks runners that (maybe) can make the run to charge up to 10k(honestly i saw a dude charging this for a dual run). so now i ask.. why pve and pvp.. i understand pvp.. but if your gonna help pvp... then just help them.. leave us pve people to give our free runs... and to those who says its cheating to skip ahead... well i say play the game 4 or 5 times through.. then telll me that.. thanks for your time

wheel

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

2 Words: Holy Veil

Narutoscryed

Narutoscryed

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

In the woods

Elite Crew

W/E

lol thanks.. but i know about holy veil. and the fact that the avacara shatter it far before you ever get the the ice golems it could ever be considerd effective against.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Just went to Beacons not 20 minutes ago. A well known runner was offering a run for 1.5k still...

I dont think Droks runs were solely dependent on the helm...but it sure makes it tougher.

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

My eyes bleed from your sentence arrangement. PARAGRAPHS, MAN, PARAGRAPHS. And proper punctuation, pllllllleeeease.

wheel

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

I'm a PvP only player, but back in the day, I did Droks runs when they were ultra profitable. Just to make sure that it was still easy to do, I did a few runs for tips tonight.

You just need to play better and preveil properly. Preveil, then, try clicking on the Ice Golems before you get in aggro range to know when they're going to cast deep freeze. 1/2 sec before Deep Freeze is about to hit, start casting Holy Veil, then disenchant the first veil when Deep Freeze Hits. Then, you'll be preveiled for the second deep freeze, which, if it hits, will be instantly dismissed.

Celios

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Black Crescent [BC]

Consider that you can take PvE chars into PvP. It simply doesn't work to have a double-standard for everything.

Tsunami Rain

Tsunami Rain

mmmmmmmm pie.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu, Hawaii

Favorable Winds [Gust]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by wheel
2 Words: Holy Veil
well said. Since last night's patch i've been using 55 monk variations with holy veil

wheel

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsunami Rain
well said. Since last night's patch i've been using 55 monk variations with holy veil
I've been able to do the runs very successfully with my standard Droks Runner.

Droks Runner

Warrior/Monk
Level: 20

Strength: 13 (12+1)
Tactics: 16 (12+4)

Sprint (Strength)
"Charge!" [Elite] (Tactics)
Balanced Stance (Tactics)
Endure Pain (Strength)
Healing Signet (Tactics)
Holy Veil (Monk other)
Smite Hex (Smiting Prayers)
Purge Conditions (Monk other)

romO

romO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chicago

Idiot Savants [iQ]

Mo/

the reason that anet had to change the helms in pve is because then those people with pve warriors would simply use them in pvp and have the great advantage over those whose lieutenant helms only reduce duration by 20% (pvp only characters). equipment was never supposed to be an issue in guild wars, and to give pve characters the unbalanced lieutenant helms would be throwing off that premise, as there would be no competition between a pve warrior and a pvp warrior.

Narutoscryed

Narutoscryed

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

In the woods

Elite Crew

W/E

Quote:
Consider that you can take PvE chars into PvP. It simply doesn't work to have a double-standard for everything.
Just how hard would it be for the game makers to only restrict the item in pvp?. I mean its this easy. a warrior takes his pve character with the -50% hex helm into pvp.

The game realizes this. and takes it down to 20% for the pvp matches... its not a double standard. its just they could have made it that ALL hex helms in pvp have 20% instead of 50% regardless of if they had been pve or pvp aquired.. that would have been easy. and left the undeserving pve people outa it. cause honestly what harm did it do to have it in pve?

the update only came because pvp people had complaints.. hardly any pve people had ever felt this to be overpowerd.. and to all of you who say holy veil is the key to runnin droks.. thats not the point.. i in fact ran droks solo twice after the update.. the point is the fact that pvp may indeed have a much bigger influence on updates than pve. i for one think that is wrong. in the words of a great indian chief "we gave them an inch, and they took a mile"

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Ok, so, remember flaming is NEVER allowed. And yes, your grammar is horrible. If you want to, you can re-write this thread in a readable format. But I'm closing this one.