More Sword Elites

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farmerfez
farmerfez
Krytan Explorer
#1
Theres only like 1 sword elite when hammers has like 5???? What is up with that?? I hope in factions there'll be more sword elites so i can go cap em Im getting tired of usin hundred blades and eviscerate.
Poison Ivy
Poison Ivy
Forge Runner
#2
Em....ok
Sagius Truthbarron
Sagius Truthbarron
Desert Nomad
#3
Yah, great. I like sword elites! Me want more too!

I wanted to make a giant "^_^", but the forum settup forbids giant, numeric emotes, I guess.
Murder In China
Murder In China
Banned
#4
/Agree with Poison Ivy
Kakumei
Kakumei
Forge Runner
#5
Hammers have three. Axes have two. Swords have one.

Yeah, I see a discrepancy.
Soul Shaker
Soul Shaker
Krytan Explorer
#6
Shows the nature of each. And stops everyone from instantly using sword...maybe...hammer is more desirable because of the elites, axes are usually not the first choice, so there are more elites there (though, cleave could be better) and sword has 1. Actually, no, sword has 2 (flourish), but then hammers would have 4, (dwarven battle stance)
Yanman.be
Yanman.be
Banned
#7
flourish works for hammers too


and that sword don't use elites to be effective is actually a bonus...clears up a spot!
Kakumei
Kakumei
Forge Runner
#8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
flourish works for hammers too


and that sword don't use elites to be effective is actually a bonus...clears up a spot!
Flourish works for all of them. What's your point?
Yanman.be
Yanman.be
Banned
#9
read the post above me

he said hammers had 4 ( including dwarven battle stance ), after that, he said swords have 2 ( including flourish )..but flourish is for all attacks, also bow attacks, and smite...
so it's a common skill not just for swords alone
Kakumei
Kakumei
Forge Runner
#10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
read the post above me

he said hammers had 4 ( including dwarven battle stance ), after that, he said swords have 2 ( including flourish )..but flourish is for all attacks, also bow attacks, and smite...
so it's a common skill not just for swords alone
Ah, my mistake.
maraxusofk
maraxusofk
Desert Nomad
#11
Both axes and hammer have an elite that causes dmg and a condition (devastating hammer, evicerate). I wish they would do soemthing like that wit sword like a move taht either gives no damage bonus but gives bleed and deepwound or soemting that gives dmg and cripple.
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S!carius
Lion's Arch Merchant
#12
That would be a good idea. Imagine how nasty a cripple+bleeding attack would be.
Nevin
Nevin
Furnace Stoker
#13
How about making Hundred Blades actually make you swing twice? Or thrust multiple times in a blurr effect.

Heres an idea for a few elites:

Taffle: 8 Adreline
Elite Sword Attack. Stab downward on knocked down target causing 4...40 Damage, Bleeding for 5..15 seconds, and Deep Wound 7...17 seconds, Damage is doubled if target is bellow 33% health.

Disarm: 5 Energy 45 Second Recharge
Elite Skill. If target foe is attacking, you interrupt and remove target foe's melee weapon for 3...12 seconds.

Endless Thrusts: 10 Energy 30 Second Recharge
Elite Sword Attack. Contiously thrust at target for 5...25 damage (Ignores Armor) 33% faster for 8 seconds, Endless Thrusts ends if attacked.

This one may be a bit over powered.

Fury: 10 Energy 25 Second Recharge
Elite Stance. For 10 Seconds you attack 33% faster.
Inureface
Inureface
Banned
#14
Uh, most of those skills you listed were based on assasin concepts, and fury?!? Are you kidding me??! Thats just a shitty version of tigers fury made elite
Ristaron
Ristaron
Desert Nomad
#15
Fury would only be elite if it lasted 20 seconds and had 25 second recharge. In which case it would still be a crappy elite.
Nevin
Nevin
Furnace Stoker
#16
Fury would require Swordsmanship (No need for /ranger secondary)... So how would Tiger's Fury be better? It requires Beast Mastery. Fury also has no negative effect...

On a side note, I see no relivance to an Assassin in the skills.
Soul Shaker
Soul Shaker
Krytan Explorer
#17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
flourish works for hammers too


and that sword don't use elites to be effective is actually a bonus...clears up a spot!
they changed it eh? it used to only be sword, never saw that change. (i call it a sword skill cos of the fact that you were (or still are?) required to wield a sword, making it in my eyes a sword skill)
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SaintGreg
Lion's Arch Merchant
#18
Flourish is really only useful for bow and sword attacks, the other lines don't rely on energy based attacks with high enough recharge like sword, and bow of course doesn't use adrenaline.

The negative effect of fury is that it has very high downtime, doesn't last very long, and is a waste of an elite. If you were going to make an elite stance like that it would probably combine 33% attack buff with 25% run buff and be only 5 energy, 20 recharge (and link to strength not sword)
Inureface
Inureface
Banned
#19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
Taffle: 8 Adreline
Elite Sword Attack. Stab downward on knocked down target causing 4...40 Damage, Bleeding for 5..15 seconds, and Deep Wound 7...17 seconds, Damage is doubled if target is bellow 33% health. - similar to twisting fangs/falling spider

Disarm: 5 Energy 45 Second Recharge
Elite Skill. If target foe is attacking, you interrupt and remove target foe's melee weapon for 3...12 seconds. - something similar posted by actionjack in an old thread, people speculated it would be an assasin skill

Endless Thrusts: 10 Energy 30 Second Recharge
Elite Sword Attack. Contiously thrust at target for 5...25 damage (Ignores Armor) 33% faster for 8 seconds, Endless Thrusts ends if attacked. - similar to repeating strike

This one may be a bit over powered.

Fury: 10 Energy 25 Second Recharge
Elite Stance. For 10 Seconds you attack 33% faster.
Its still costly like TF, and what advantage do you get having 1 or 16 swordsmanship for this skill?? Plus its elite, which already makes a bad skill worse
Those are what's similar
Mandy Memory
Mandy Memory
Desert Nomad
#20
Quote:
Originally Posted by farmerfez
Theres only like 1 sword elite when hammers has like 5???? What is up with that?? I hope in factions there'll be more sword elites so i can go cap em Im getting tired of usin hundred blades and eviscerate.
Yeah I always get tired of using eviscerate with my sword too.