Does anyone use his PVE char. in PVP ?
Josh
To some of you that are saying you can't, why don't you just put the perfect weapons you want to put on your PvP Character into your Storage from your PvE Character?
BuddyLeeX
yep i use my warrior and monk who both have full fissure armor and perfect items and multiple sets of helm/headpieces, offhands/shields and weapons for different roles in PvP. Actually my back 2 bags are full of equipment that i use.
dgb
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Originally Posted by Keyote
What do you have on it then? +5 insightful, 20/20 prot, +20% enchant seems perfect for a boon-prot monk to me...
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On the other hand, when you have a warrior wailing away at you having AL 80 is very nice. Especially when you coudln't get a guardian up because your being knocklocked or something.
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Originally Posted by Josh
To some of you that are saying you can't, why don't you just put the perfect weapons you want to put on your PvP Character into your Storage from your PvE Character?
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The reason why you see more and more top guilds running PvE characters is versatility. It is beneficial to have all that extra equipment. On the otherhand they can afford it. A couple of runs to halls, 30 sigils or so later and they are sitting on enough cash to buy whatever they want. For the average player they can't afford it and are going into PvP at a disadvantage.
dont feel no pain
i never use my pve char's for pvp , i have everything pretty much everything unlocked so its easier + cheaper to alter my builds on pvp char's.
Rukmedes
I use my pve in pvp, because it is really nice to have 5 different helmets and negaitve energy weapons
Savio
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Originally Posted by Josh
To some of you that are saying you can't, why don't you just put the perfect weapons you want to put on your PvP Character into your Storage from your PvE Character?
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yesitsrob
I currently use my pve monk for _most_ pvp'ing and only because he is completely kitted out for doing so - with him having more staffs etc there are more options available - in that I can say - change to +60hp staff against spike teams, and swap to a minor scalp for example. I have spent endless amounts of gold on my monk and still there are times when I need to roll a pvp monk to have the equipment I need. If I ever wanted to ViM monk, I would re-roll for example since I am lacking equipment to do that as of yet
On ranger spiking with greens - as far as I'm aware there are no Green 5/1 vamp horn bows of fortitude, +15 while enchanted - which are what you should be using to be ideal. there are however collectors bow for it....
So... I would only use my pve monk if it will give me an advantage - If I can roll something that is even slightly better, then I'll make a pvp character for it
On ranger spiking with greens - as far as I'm aware there are no Green 5/1 vamp horn bows of fortitude, +15 while enchanted - which are what you should be using to be ideal. there are however collectors bow for it....
So... I would only use my pve monk if it will give me an advantage - If I can roll something that is even slightly better, then I'll make a pvp character for it
JR
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Originally Posted by Poison Ivy
9 HP won't make a bit of difference :O
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Originally Posted by wolfe2dale
Besides, last I looked you can't get green items for a pvp only character.
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Originally Posted by Keyote
What do you have on it then? +5 insightful, 20/20 prot, +20% enchant seems perfect for a boon-prot monk to me...
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At the moment, I would run a Hale staff of Fortitude, with 20/20 on inspiration for my EDrain/Drain Enchant energy management.
As for PvE characters in PvP:
I currently use my PvE monk in PvP. Why? Mostly for headgear swaps. I can cast my Divine Boon with a sup divine headgear, then switch to minor for the HP benefits. I can also change my armor sets depending on what we are facing. (Degen: Tattoos, Warriors/Rangers: Judges, Elementalists: Wanderers.)
For PvE warriors there used to be the massive benefit of the previously imbalanced hex helm. Now it is mainly usefull so you can have 4 sets of customised weapons.
Grimm
I mainly use PvP characters. My only PvP-ready PvE characters are my necromancer and my ranger, which doesn't give me much flexibility as to what to play. I have almost everything unlocked, so I can make any character I want in about a minute.
So unless I really need to be able to switch armor or whatnot, I use a PvP character. I don't play PvE much anymore, so my PvE characters don't have enough equipment to be as flexible as a PvP character.
So unless I really need to be able to switch armor or whatnot, I use a PvP character. I don't play PvE much anymore, so my PvE characters don't have enough equipment to be as flexible as a PvP character.
myword
only use my PvE warrior and ranger for PvP, for the extra range of weapons. the rest, i use PvP characters.
for extra items on my casters, i use PvE items. heard of that Xunlai Storage Agent thing, yea. just have to remember not to delete the PvP char without unequipping them
*grumble grumble bout past mishaps*
for extra items on my casters, i use PvE items. heard of that Xunlai Storage Agent thing, yea. just have to remember not to delete the PvP char without unequipping them
*grumble grumble bout past mishaps*
Keyote
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Originally Posted by JR-
Boon Prots don't benefit much at all from any prot recharge or fast-cast mods, due to the nature of the skills they use. Nor do they benefit much from +20% enchant mods, due to how they use them. Insightfull is pretty terrible aswell.
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I might think about going with inspiration items too, much more benefit.
TheMosesPHD
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Originally Posted by Poison Ivy
9 HP won't make a bit of difference :O
Actually, it all comes down to armor. PvE chars can swap a set of armor anytime they like in any situation, unlike PvP are only allowed 1 set. |
Mandy Memory
I used to, my hod helm helped...my non perfect axe didnt.
Guardian of the Light
Well using a PvE character in PvP has it advantages.
You get to swap armor. "O NOES I'm taking damage (switchs off Sup Healing and using minor healing)
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You can take advantage of unique items and mods NOT found in PvP.
"Ha Ha Ha stupid warrior I will blind you."
"Fool I got a shield that reduces blindness.....ha ha its gone now."
"O NOOESS
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You can get a lot more weapons
"Ok lets see, Shield check, Sword for adralin check, hammer for rest of attacks check, Wand check, Longbow for range check......"
You can get different pets.
You can get infused in case a rare hack comes to the GW server and it makes it so Mursaat all of a sudden go into PvP games (ya that was kind of pointless)
However your going to have to pay a lot to get these advantages so PvP characters are still ideal.
You get to swap armor. "O NOES I'm taking damage (switchs off Sup Healing and using minor healing)
You can take advantage of unique items and mods NOT found in PvP.
"Ha Ha Ha stupid warrior I will blind you."
"Fool I got a shield that reduces blindness.....ha ha its gone now."
"O NOOESS
"You can get a lot more weapons
"Ok lets see, Shield check, Sword for adralin check, hammer for rest of attacks check, Wand check, Longbow for range check......"
You can get different pets.
You can get infused in case a rare hack comes to the GW server and it makes it so Mursaat all of a sudden go into PvP games (ya that was kind of pointless)
However your going to have to pay a lot to get these advantages so PvP characters are still ideal.
Lady Callingwell
Just make sure you're capable of buying whatever you want. A PvE char has acces to some rather interesting things, including more than two weapon sets (which can all be customized), multiple armor sets, FoW armor, some PvE only equipment etc. So as long as you can make some cash (a small bit of farming is enough) you have a wider selection of certain things than a PvP char. On the opposite a PvP char does not have a single advantage when you compare it to a PvE char which has been able to buy whatever he wants.
ERMC
I use my PvE monk alot in HA and GvG and sometimes my warrior but i also have a pvp slot. Last night i was in a HA group and they asked for a rune set up that my PvE monk doesn't have so i rerolled and made a PvP monk. That is the benefit of the PvP slot making things that your pve character can not run. My 3 PvE's are all pvp rdy but that being said they can not do everything. The Warrior, Ele, and monk on my main account have all there primary class skills and elites unlocked which makes them very versatile but still can not match the versatility of a PvP slot. I use both the PvP slot and my PvE characters having a PvE character rdy for pvp is great so is having a 100% unlocked account for PvP creations
Eet GnomeSmasher
To those that say PVE characters are inferiour in PVP and shouldnt be done....
...Go look that the top two guilds: IQ and EVIL, which both had PVE characters in their battles.
Now please get a clue.
...Go look that the top two guilds: IQ and EVIL, which both had PVE characters in their battles.
Now please get a clue.
Kai Nui
PVE characters have the option of swapping armors easily and having all green items.
Nater
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Originally Posted by Aejorii
My warrior is fully up to pvp standard with multiple helms/weapons/armor so I use that to pvp. I wish I could use my monk though, I still need to find a good Healing staff.
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Same for my Necro and Mesmer. They have all the armor and equipment(at least collectors) to swing every skill line.Only time I made a PvP slot, I deleted my lvl 20 Ranger for the preview weekend. Wish I would have kept him now..
Bowstring Badass
I find alot of people use pve chars with green items and collectors items so they are max and dont have to worry about it I use my pve Warrior and Ranger in pvp all the time even tho i have 2 pvp slots for anything my guild would like me to run. On my warrior i use my godly weapons and greens and collectors sheild n ect. so i dont have to worry about it. Plus i was playin around with different w/mo builds in randoms (yayaya i know w/mo is a newb) but instead of having to reroll everytime i would just switch armor for axe hammer sword and etc.
Manic Smile
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Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher
To those that say PVE characters are inferiour in PVP and shouldnt be done....
...Go look that the top two guilds: IQ and EVIL, which both had PVE characters in their battles. Now please get a clue. |
That was because of the HoD helm...but yea I agree with your point none the less.
There is nothing in a PvP character you cannot reproduce using a PvE...just takes time that can be used elsewhere if you are so inclined...
for example:
that's taken me a month or so while in a PvP character it would take 5min at max
Francis Crawford
I've been playing in PvE for several months, and have done very little PvPing. For my one character who's made it to the top level of the game, I could pretty easily afford any top-of-the-line equipment that I don't have yet. And if there's something I'm missing, I might be able to earn it faster through farming than through PvPing.
Although I must confess that I might go with near-perfect rather than utterly perfect equipment. E.g., I only have two armor +10 Defensive collector's staffs of Defense, but I have a pretty unlimited supply of armor +8s. And while I could afford a Brimstone, I'm not buying one until I get it on a drop, so I might go with the collector's focus item instead. And so on.
Although I must confess that I might go with near-perfect rather than utterly perfect equipment. E.g., I only have two armor +10 Defensive collector's staffs of Defense, but I have a pretty unlimited supply of armor +8s. And while I could afford a Brimstone, I'm not buying one until I get it on a drop, so I might go with the collector's focus item instead. And so on.
dgb
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Originally Posted by Francis Crawford
I've been playing in PvE for several months, and have done very little PvPing. For my one character who's made it to the top level of the game, I could pretty easily afford any top-of-the-line equipment that I don't have yet. And if there's something I'm missing, I might be able to earn it faster through farming than through PvPing.
Although I must confess that I might go with near-perfect rather than utterly perfect equipment. E.g., I only have two armor +10 Defensive collector's staffs of Defense, but I have a pretty unlimited supply of armor +8s. And while I could afford a Brimstone, I'm not buying one until I get it on a drop, so I might go with the collector's focus item instead. And so on. |
Kate Bloodspirit
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Originally Posted by dgb
Go on, find me a 20/20 prot staff with divine favour requirements. There are somethings money can't buy in GW and that's one of them. It can only come through a rare staff and how often do you think the probabilities would align?
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Taken from http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=130380&page=2
In any case, there're collector 20/20 staffs that you can mod at will, just because they require smiting doesn't make them less usefull than one that requires divine because it's not like you wanding stuff along the match will make much of a difference.
Going back to topic. I use 3 PvE characters. Mostly because the more inmerse into a class I'd be, I'd require extra equipments (Specially greens and gold stuff I've been collecting), besides all the possible equipment I could get from the creation screen. Since I had no enough space to store all this extra equipment and since I didn't like to go through the process of passing items back and forth all the time I made 3 PvE toons for the class I play the most/have more equipment for. I switch weapon sets a lot :P I wish there were at least 6 weapon sets but that's another story hehee.
Also it allows you to have different weapon sets for different situations that you can swap back and forth depending on the situation, for example, you don't need your liutenants helm (warrior) against a team without hexes, or your Judge's set (Monk) against obs spike.
The only drawback is the insane amount of gold that takes you to make a PvE character, PvP ready >.<
dgb
Ok, I wasn't exactly clear. I meant a moddable to your own desires 20/20 prot staff. If you read through the thread that would have been obvious, but my fault, I wasn't clear.
As for the smiting req, yes it does matter. Yes, as a monk I am not the major damage dealer. However, the number of times I've just caught someone with a hit from my staff and taken them out is high. It might only happen one match in ten, but I'm not going to discount it. Aside from that, the initial assertion was that htere is nothing you can get in PvP that you can't in PvE. That still holds true. You can get a moddable 20/20 prot staff with divine favour requirement in PvP. You can't in PvE.
As for the smiting req, yes it does matter. Yes, as a monk I am not the major damage dealer. However, the number of times I've just caught someone with a hit from my staff and taken them out is high. It might only happen one match in ten, but I'm not going to discount it. Aside from that, the initial assertion was that htere is nothing you can get in PvP that you can't in PvE. That still holds true. You can get a moddable 20/20 prot staff with divine favour requirement in PvP. You can't in PvE.
Skuld
My monk has all the skills, runes and armour I could ever want, and I've never need anything but yakslapper yet
Ayres_Spellbinder
All I use is my PvE Mes in TA and HoH. I have all Mes skill cept for 5. I also have all the secondaries for my MEs, but still need more skills on some. And like ppl have said, you can have green weapons in there and build more specific mods.
Loch
After grinding my way to UAS, I cannot even bear to think about running another toon through PvE.
Looks like it's PvP-only all the way for me.
Looks like it's PvP-only all the way for me.