One superior -75 HP --> with superior vigor -25HP
Two superiors -150HP --> with superior vigor -125HP
Three superiors -225HP --> with superior vigor -175HP
Four Superiors -300 HP --> with superior vigor -250HP
Five Superiors -375 HP --> cannot have superior vigor (all slots -75)
Obviously, if someone has Four or more superiors it means they either are a person that should not be on the team due to stupidity of using so many superiors, or stay off team because they are a 105 or 55er (which doesn't exactly help the team).
There ought to be an alert next to the person's box in the party window. (An exclamation point maybe)
You'd be surprised. I've ben in teams like with a mesmer once and a warrior another time with 3 superiors that died every 5 seconds.
Notification if someone in team has >3 superior runes equipped
LifeInfusion
Mandy Memory
I think you should be able to right click on someone on your team and see their skillbar and equipment. That way you can get rid of staff warriors and sword E/W too.
kvndoom
A simple, incredibly simple, so damn simple I can't believe the 10 lines of code haven't been implemented, way to resolve this, is to add a checkbox in the options menu- "Show Numerical HP in Party Window". Check the box, and you see actual NUMBERS overlaying the red health bars. You'll know what you're dealing with before you even start the mission. It's not a 100% cure (armor swaps, of course), but it'll help considerably. I too have been in PUG's where my freaking healing Monk was a better tank that the warrior. Sheesh.
Vilaptca
I think kvndoom has the better solution, but I still want what Mandy Memory suggested also. Its just a cool way to show off your gear, and to looks at another persons.
Stupid Shizno
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I think you should be able to right click on someone on your team and see their skillbar and equipment. That way you can get rid of staff warriors and sword E/W too.
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LightningHell
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Ever heard of a N/W? goes something like Sever Attery, Gash, Final Thrust, Life Transfer, Vampric Gaze, Dark Pact....oh yea...kick him cause he carrys a sword. For being in a GvG guild i expected a higher intellegence from you.
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Don't flame...That is a mediocre build at most...
And he was talking about warriors holding damn staffs...now if that isn't something wrong, I've got to hear about it...
The only case where a caster is justified holding a sword is when he/she is holding a HoD sword.
It's no big mystery what people bring with their builds anyways; if you don't know clearly one person's skill-list, you're sort of screwed.
=HT=Ingram
I use 2 superiors all the time as a monk with no problem... I just switch off my armors when I need a boost in Divine or Healing... And effective Monk can use their 105/55 armor in PvE for missions to be a better healer or protector... On the fly... With my hale and fortitude mods I normally have a health of 405 or someplace in that neighborhood at the beginning. for max healing effect... But yet every time I flash my health everyone freaks out...
Whatever... I switch around my armors when I need too so I either have more health or more attrib... depends on what we are doing and who we are playing with... A maxed out prot monk with a max prot and -1max divine is fantastic to have.. especially if your using a 20 or 20/20 (green) wand and 20/20 offhand... Anyways. believe whatever you want. Supieror runes are a great tool for people that know how to use them and when to use them. dont knock it just cause your pi$$ed about something silly...
Whatever... I switch around my armors when I need too so I either have more health or more attrib... depends on what we are doing and who we are playing with... A maxed out prot monk with a max prot and -1max divine is fantastic to have.. especially if your using a 20 or 20/20 (green) wand and 20/20 offhand... Anyways. believe whatever you want. Supieror runes are a great tool for people that know how to use them and when to use them. dont knock it just cause your pi$$ed about something silly...
Mr.H.Mishima
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There's something to be said for pure lack of skill too you know. The problem with your idea about seeing party members HP's is that HP's are no indication of skill...even with seeing the skillbar, it's still no indication of skill. You simply can't know until you actually see them in action.
Just because they have less than full HP's doesn't mean their survivability isn't good. As a warrior, there should be no problem with carrying 2 superior runes...as long as you carry the armor buffs/evasion stances to reduce the damage you are taking. Same goes for other classes.
Moa Bird Cultist
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I think you should be able to right click on someone on your team and see their skillbar and equipment. That way you can get rid of staff warriors and sword E/W too.
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LightningHell
E/W is fine, because you have Earth magic.
Minus Sign
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The only case where a caster is justified holding a sword is when he/she is holding a HoD sword.I
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/signed for what Mandy Memory suggested and kvndoom=props
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...stay off team because they are a 105 or 55er (which doesn't exactly help the team).
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LightningHell
In any case, I agree with you, Minus Sign. I totally forgot IW, since I play it so...rarely...
I don't get the point of N/W sword holders...
I don't get the point of N/W sword holders...
LifeInfusion
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E/W is fine, because you have Earth magic.
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Two words: Illusionary Weaponry
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LightningHell
Quite right.
PieXags
Lets try to keep comments towards the suggestion at hand, not how wicked people can be with swords. 
As a whole, no I don't think you should be able to see other peoples skill bars, hp, or energy, or even weapons by clicking their names in any way. If you're that concerned about what your party brings---ASK THEM. Some people have no idea how to play the game and will kick people because their close minded and can't see the point of someone's build, some people don't want their build spread all over the internet, etc---if you want to know what your team's got ask them, if they won't TELL you, kick them if that's how you want to be. Either way, there's no reason you should be able to read other peoples character setup in any way unless they choose to let you know.
As a whole, no I don't think you should be able to see other peoples skill bars, hp, or energy, or even weapons by clicking their names in any way. If you're that concerned about what your party brings---ASK THEM. Some people have no idea how to play the game and will kick people because their close minded and can't see the point of someone's build, some people don't want their build spread all over the internet, etc---if you want to know what your team's got ask them, if they won't TELL you, kick them if that's how you want to be. Either way, there's no reason you should be able to read other peoples character setup in any way unless they choose to let you know.
Skuld
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Don't flame...That is a mediocre build at most... And he was talking about warriors holding damn staffs...now if that isn't something wrong, I've got to hear about it... The only case where a caster is justified holding a sword is when he/she is holding a HoD sword. It's no big mystery what people bring with their builds anyways; if you don't know clearly one person's skill-list, you're sort of screwed. |
1)Yakslapper
2)19% enchanting brute sword and 20/20 prot icon
which is better? (don't shout kephets refuge to me, my ele is having that, ugly thing
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LightningHell
Of course I won't
I think you would be better off not attacking, then.
I think you would be better off not attacking, then.
Mordakai
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I disagree totally. If your a party leader and are worried about a 55 monk, do a HP check.
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bad person
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As others have said, it would be very easy for someone to switch out their armor once you've gotten to where you're going. What next? Maybe be able to view someone's entire inventory so you can make sure they don't have a second set of armor?
As others have said, it would be very easy for someone to switch out their armor once you've gotten to where you're going. What next? Maybe be able to view someone's entire inventory so you can make sure they don't have a second set of armor?
pappayaponta
Yes, Like inspect in WoW where you can see what the other is equipping.
FalconDance
The idea has merit. My mesmer was doing her first Infusion (I usually have at least parts of two sets of armor to swap around for efficiency, thus need multi-infusions) yesterday. One of the necros on the team was a necro. No one thought to ask anyone if they were running an other-than-ordinary-hp build since we were in mission, i.e. not farming or Fow/UW. When he died and our healers tried to Rebirth/Resurrect him, he barely stood up before dying again. After about three attempts (I was busy elsewhere or would have noticed sooner), I told them he was running a 55 build. He never confirmed or denied it regardless of how many times anyone asked and in the end, I was the one to use my Signet on him (Briallan was the only one who had only the Sig)
/signed for the meanwhile
/signed for the meanwhile
QuixotesGhost
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Some people have no idea how to play the game and will kick people because their close minded and can't see the point of someone's build, some people don't want their build spread all over the internet, etc
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Yeah there are a lot of 55-idiots running around, but seriously you should just trust people. They're the ones that have taken that particular class through the past 20 levels, they're the ones who regularly play it, not you.... so unless you have a particular team build in mind, you should just STFU and let them play what they want to play.
Think seriously about being able to view other peoples bars.
- Your Warrior will never get another PvE group without 5 redundant, useless stances on your bar.
- Your Ranger is now a Barrage Ranger. Live with it.
- Good luck trying to play a bonder monk without Life Barrier.
- Spiteful Spirit and Blood is Power are the only two elites availible to your necro.
- Elementalists now only have one attribute and we all know what that is.
- Your mesmer still won't get groups
I'm all for this idea in PvP when your trying to develop team builds, but in PvE you get way too many people meddling and trying to get you to run utter crap over your own personal tried and tested builds.
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LifeInfusion
This thread has nothing to do with skillbars, mind you. It has to do with rune -HP stacking when the +3 does not.
The stacking of the -75 HP is the ony reason why 55 HP is even possible without DP.
The stacking of the -75 HP is the ony reason why 55 HP is even possible without DP.
Lord Cooper
im usually a fire ele but i carry 4 superior runes. earth fire air and energy. swap them out depending on my build and swap the energy in when i need an energy boost in a mission. 
so there are legitimate reasons to have multiple superiors.
so there are legitimate reasons to have multiple superiors.
Gardar
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I think you should be able to right click on someone on your team and see their skillbar and equipment. That way you can get rid of staff warriors and sword E/W too.
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Many people dont like that others are asking for their builds let alone if they could just go around clicking them and looking at them.