14 days since I made a report of a serious GvG exploit... Still no fix.

Basically it is this

The so called 'top' guilds are having members join lower ranked guilds and starting between 1-3 (for the intelligent) to 10+ (for the stupid) 1v8 guild battles...

thus lowering the score of the guild they join and boosting their own (this is also taking place with random jerks joining hall owning clans and doing them in)

Sounds more like people should be a little more cautious who they invite into a guild. I don't quite see how this is an "exploit" in game, but rather an exploit in people's laziness and/or stupidity.

-Virt

and mind listing these "top guilds" name?

In all seriousness, how would the developers fix this "exploit?"

Bleh... why spread FUD and drama? By all any of us know, the OP could just be someone with a bone to pick and a reason to slander certain individuals.

-Virt

To be honest I don't see how "top end guilds" could be doing this as chances are, to be a top guild, you are not going to be openly recruiting. Guild with rank 5 would have to infiltrate a guild above them, or Guild with rank 2, and start a few battles to make them lose. I don't really see how this is feasable or likely. It wouldn't help the guild with rank 5 to infiltrate some rank 100 guild and make them lose... they'd gain nothing out of it.

-Virt

I think it makes sense. For better realism there can be a revolt or a spy in the guild. Just got to be careful that's all. I think they should give these people skills to use heh but have countermeasures for them.

There is quite a simple fix to this which involves more power to the Guild Leader and Guild Captains (as let's face it they don't do much normally) is to :-

Only let teams led by the Leader or a Captain in the Guild Hall enter a guild battle, this a) stops the exploit and b) stops silly clan newbies going into a guild battle with 4 henchies.

Also remember that your guild assocation is linked by account and not chartacter. One cannot be a member of a "highly ranked" guild and also a member of a lower ranked guild. It's one or the other.

If anyone is using this as an exploit then it might be unethical, but it is not a fault in the programing. It would also be beyond retarded to restrict people's ability to quit one guild to join another. THe is NO solution to this except that people should olice themselves.

This has been brought about before many times. I'd like to clariy right now that "you just have to be more careful with who you invite into your guild" is not a valid argument.

Devs, make it so only Guild Officers and Guild Leaders can arrange GvG battles.

Oh, it's not? Why not? Or are we supposed to just take your almighty word for it?

-Virt

only letting officers and leaders arrange battles wont solve this. you just need your real life friend to go into the enemy guild and show they're a good pvper and they will still end up in a battle as a chosen participant.

Seconded.

Here few ideas that sound ridiculous, but are basically the same thing as the argument I've rejected.

"Let's remove brakes from all bikes, people just need to be more careful with how fast they go."

"Let's never use helmets, people just need to be more careful with where their head goes."

"Let's take the safety off of all guns, people just need to be more careful with where their finger is."

The point it, you shouldn't exclude a safety measure from something just because people could avoid the danger by being more safety conscious.

Exactly.

It's funny how leaders have no power over something as simple as deciding who gets to start GvG. Whether it's an "exploit" or not, it's clearly broken.

Agreed, when I or any other officers/leaders are not on guild wars, our guild could theoretically have all of the members currently on take on a GvG battle anytime they liked. I agree that this needs to be fixed for officers and leaders only, because it hurts or helps guilds one way or another, exploit or not.

Leaders and Officers have power to promote people in a guild, leaders can kick them out of a guild, they can promote someone else to leader while they get demoted to officer, they can change guild capes. Officers can invite new members as well as Leaders can. But neither of them can start a GvG battle without every guild member being able to do so...

On a slightly off-topic note, I think they should allow two leaders in a guild instead of just one, at least only two, three would be sort of hard to control, but two people who know each other IRL, want to run a guild together, can't really do it with one being officer and one being leader persay.

End random off-topic note.

Jason -

Thank you for your report. This issue has been brought to the attention of the development team and they are investigating it further. As a result, we appreciate your report as it helps ensure that Guild Wars runs as smoothly as possible.

Thanks again and Ill see you in Guild Wars!
Becky



Go figure they fire a reply to me the day after eh (had been over a week since my first e-mail so I was beginning to wonder)

And the fix is exactly what windle there said.

Basically they have their members join ANY guild with a hall

not just the other top guilds

doesn't matter who just as long as they have a hall

5 minutes later the damage is done...

I'm not going to state the names as it is hearsay (from other leaders I know saying they recruited a member who is a part of guild XX who did it to them and so forth)... I had one guy do it to us but fortunatly I was present in the hall when i saw him entering the mission solo. (= him booted after 1).



As for this "Also remember that your guild assocation is linked by account and not chartacter. One cannot be a member of a "highly ranked" guild and also a member of a lower ranked guild. It's one or the other.
"

NO they temporarily leave their guild, they go cause the damage and then return to their old guild with their buddies.

This was actually apperently abused heavily during beta and necessitated a ladder wipe is another one of the rumors I've heard...

Also it would be nice to have the option for multiple guild leaders :P