Bots changed farming place.

Aldarond

Aldarond

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

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I just wonder have You noticed all these cheaters using bots are farming now in Droknar's Forge because of Griffons farming nerf? I thought the latest update will make them finding new farm place a little longer.
Anyway, can't ANet really do something with that?

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

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It's easy, just add in scarabs in the cave.
Remember, them scarabs are attracted by huge amounts of corpses.

The "new" Southern Shiverpeak's Queen Scarab could be a distant relative of the desert Queen Scarab.

Problem solved.

Aldarond

Aldarond

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/

I rather thought about banning these cheaters accounts...

jakb

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

nerfing the game because of botters very directly punishes alot of people that arent bots and cheats. Not at all good for the whole. Best and only real decision is to ban those accounts. Start with a warning, if these warnings arent heeded. Then ban.

Dont punish the masses because of the few!

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldarond
I rather thought about banning these cheaters accounts...
If all of them were bots, ANet would have banned them a long time ago. Personally I have trouble believing that even a single one of them is a bot but since the community is so utterly convinced I'll concede that a small percentage may be bots.

The rest of them, the majority, aren't cheating.

Jenosavel

Jenosavel

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Jul 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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The farming spot outside Droknar's Forge gives junk as far as money/items are concerned. No one farming there is going to be making any appreciable amount of gold. Rather, people farm there because it's one of the only places in the game that takes some of the pain out of grinding skill points. If ANet gave a decent way to get new skill points without having to grind for experience, then I'd be willing to bet that the farming outside Droks would drop off dramatically.

Of course, it's always possible that the bots have moved in there, though their owners will be sorely disappointed at the creeping rate of money flowing out of that cave.

Aldarond

Aldarond

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/

Geez, people, are You blind? These female, blue-dyed monks are even running in a line on the exactly the same way, automatically from gate-to-merchant. They dont even try to look and act as a real player -,-

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Dryders are the most effective way to handle the botters in the cave.

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

All they have to do is move one mob of birds closer to the entrance. Every tried 55ing a guille?

Good grief, why introduce monsters so totally foreign to the area. Scarabs and dryders, lol.

Riceboi

Riceboi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
All they have to do is move one mob of birds closer to the entrance. Every tried 55ing a guille?
Yeah and I won!

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

There is no need to neft the troll cave. Nothing drops there except for lots of raven staffs. You will get 1 gold drop every 2-3 hours which is not effective. This is the best spot on the game for gaining skill points.

There is no reason to change this area because of farmers. You nerf this spot they will move again. Then there will be no spot left to farm eventually. I'm not against farms because I've learned that Anet can change the prices manually. They can make adjustments to keep things in line.

Again farming is not the best way to make gold in this game. Someday people will learn that.

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

I hope they nerf the living snot out of the Troll run. The other night the server was having issues, and everyone got disconnected. I happened to be in Droks. You should have seen the ridiculouslly long line of blue tatto'd female monks without a guild and with similar names moving almost in tandum to the freaking exit. You cannot tell me that is NOT a problem. I can hardly see how anyone (even farmers) want the game to be saturated with worthless gold. You say they'll move again? Yea but they'll be moving somewhere harder to farm. The reason they did Griffons was it was easy and gave a great return. They farm Trolls because it's easy. They spots will get harder, and more and more will fall out. I'm not against farming, but it should not be as easy and repetitive as it has been in the past.

Grasping Darkness

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

i dont think anyone needs punishment for any of this. why should someone be punished for making a bot for no gain but gold? i thik its cool they can design a prog that keeps them from sitting in front of their pc spending a rediculous amount of time. after ive built 12 characters i think gw should provide me with a bot to give me a life other than gw... haha

kimahri

kimahri

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
Every tried 55ing a guille?
Yep, they die like flies touching those mosquito killing lamps!

AeroLion

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

But the troll run isn't very profitable. The only reason to do it over any other farming spot is experience for skill points.

If you want money, desert hydras, griffons, minos, and even sand drakes will get you more gold than the trolls. Hell, I think even the undead outside of Bergen will net you more money over time than the trolls.

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
There is no need to neft the troll cave. Nothing drops there except for lots of raven staffs. You will get 1 gold drop every 2-3 hours which is not effective. This is the best spot on the game for gaining skill points.

There is no reason to change this area because of farmers. You nerf this spot they will move again. Then there will be no spot left to farm eventually. I'm not against farms because I've learned that Anet can change the prices manually. They can make adjustments to keep things in line.

Again farming is not the best way to make gold in this game. Someday people will learn that.
/agree

sno

sno

Look into the Eye.

Join Date: Oct 2005

Detroit, Mi

Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
This is the best spot on the game for gaining skill points.
Actually, it's most certainly not the best spot for gaining skill points. UW/FoW are vastly quicker, mostly because of all the quest rewards you can get (although only a select few can actually do them.)

Aejorii

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

SF, CA

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sno
Actually, it's most certainly not the best spot for gaining skill points. UW/FoW are vastly quicker, mostly because of all the quest rewards you can get (although only a select few can actually do them.)
I don't know.. you can pretty much gain a level ever 3 minutes there at a consistant rate.

zelira

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jan 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
There is no need to neft the troll cave. Nothing drops there except for lots of raven staffs. You will get 1 gold drop every 2-3 hours which is not effective. This is the best spot on the game for gaining skill points.
Exactly.

I got this stupid goal of unlocking every skill on all professions for my monk. With that in mind, I buy a double xp for 30secs scroll everytime I run out there (can't afford the triple xp scrolls from the drops). I don't know how much gold you'd from griffon farming in an hour, however I get about 8-12 mountain troll tusks that the kind merchart will give me 8g each and a few drops that won't total 1k per run. I go for about 3-4 skill points a night and get a gold crappy drop average of twice a week. I'll probably be able to afford my FoW armor via this method in about 8 years.

kimahri

kimahri

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

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Outside of Destinys is nice now, I took a tour there, went up the stair place, and cleared a big part of the area (The Scar). I noticed that it was fairly easy with 55hp, except the scarabs. And I agree, trolls aren't good for drops, even the Sand Giants have better drops. So, for all GRrs (what's the word for a person that does GR?), go there.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
Good grief, why introduce monsters so totally foreign to the area. dryders, lol.
Dryders are in the Northern Shiverpeaks, my friend.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Fog Nightmares

hodjeur

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

LCDM

R/Mo

They might just include an anti-cheating code, who would disconnect the farmer s automatically.

konohamaru heaven

konohamaru heaven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Some where in Cantha beyond the Petrified Forest and the Jade Sea

The Amazon Basin

Azure Spirits might spice things up or the dreaded and elusive Frost Wurm ^^. Suffering + Feast of Corruption= Dead 55 health monk

Stabber

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Plane of Oblivion

Sigilum Sanguis [keep]

Me/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
You nerf this spot they will move again. Then there will be no spot left to farm eventually.
Oh would that were true! It might make PvE less of a 24 hour faming wasteland again.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

haha, throw in about 8 Fog Nightmares, 12 Azure Spirits, some extra Aviacara Wilds and at least 10 Giant Frost Wurms all bunched up at the door of Drognars Forge. That'll REALLY spice things up.

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

Maw The Mountain Heart pops up randomly in different places in the southern Shiverpeaks now, this might be a nice surprise for them

pegasux

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

ok i'm really missing something here...someone please tell me the harm in having a bot farm for you? I don't use 1 and never will but what's the harm to the normal players in gw?

Ailyrr Merlena

Ailyrr Merlena

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

VA

E/N

I have seen the line of female monks going out the door, and I've also seen one of the known gold farmers selling wood in Drok's recently. This particular character used to hang out in Augury, selling axe, sword and hammer mods. A

And yes, I've even had this same character tell me that he/she can't sell below a certain price, because his "boss" wouldn't like it.

And the harm in a bot farming? E-bay. 'nuff said.

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ailyrr Merlena
I have seen the line of female monks going out the door, and I've also seen one of the known gold farmers selling wood in Drok's recently. This particular character used to hang out in Augury, selling axe, sword and hammer mods. A

And yes, I've even had this same character tell me that he/she can't sell below a certain price, because his "boss" wouldn't like it.

And the harm in a bot farming? E-bay. 'nuff said.
You now, talking about Bots, I was in a group the other day in Hell's Precipe. We had these two monks and it was the first monters right, anyways. The warriors where just crashing and we where all "Monks heal!", mind you I noticed these funny names like Kai Chin and Lei Maie (very silmaliar names) and they never said anything but

"I'm using Ressurection on (Name)!" - and it was me who went "Good god...they're bots you guys!"

Sure enough, they where.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuoba Hturt Eht
It's easy, just add in scarabs in the cave.
Remember, them scarabs are attracted by huge amounts of corpses.

The "new" Southern Shiverpeak's Queen Scarab could be a distant relative of the desert Queen Scarab.

Problem solved.
Wahh no fair! Leave my ickle trolls alone!

pegasux

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

k for me i don't care if somebody is so dang lazy and has money to throw away on ebay just for a dumb wep...good for them. They just took the pleasure out of earning it themselves. For me and most of you i assume, it feels good to find that rare wep or item right. So let the bots farm and the cheaters cheat themselves out of the gw experience and just laugh at them. In the end i think that the bots are good for everyone cause they put more goods on the market which means lower prices for everyone. imo of course.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

I dont like farming bots but I dont see how they're harming me or anyone else directly other than the farming nerfs.

Ironically, the people that keep calling for something to be done about the bots because they're "harming the game" are actually contributing to "harming" the game since they're pushing for these changes.

Oh and for those asking why these bots arent banned. Because they're not totally automated. They have a real life person monitoring the bot's actions and a lot of the "work" is automated. But there's still a portion of the farming that has to be done "manually" Now how would ANET distinguish between a bot and a normal player in those circumstances? They'd have to put a lot of manpower trying to do that. Hell, right now there arent even GMs to clean up the foul and crude language in the districts.

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pegasux
k for me i don't care if somebody is so dang lazy and has money to throw away on ebay just for a dumb wep...good for them. They just took the pleasure out of earning it themselves. For me and most of you i assume, it feels good to find that rare wep or item right. So let the bots farm and the cheaters cheat themselves out of the gw experience and just laugh at them. In the end i think that the bots are good for everyone cause they put more goods on the market which means lower prices for everyone. imo of course.
I agree. I love going into FoW and having Shadow Staves drop from me from creatures and chests rather then thinking I' mgoing to spend 50.00 on this 10/10 Shadow Staff and what have you, i'd rather buy it INGAME with INGAME gold

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sixdartbart
Maw The Mountain Heart pops up randomly in different places in the southern Shiverpeaks now, this might be a nice surprise for them
He's always done that

Jimma

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Troll farming has no harm, i have 3 chars (not alot) a ranger, w/mo, and a monk i farm on one of them. I do trolls for xp because i want to unlock skills, if you think this harms anyone you are mistaken

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
All they have to do is move one mob of birds closer to the entrance. Every tried 55ing a guille?

Good grief, why introduce monsters so totally foreign to the area. Scarabs and dryders, lol.
Yes I 55 the guiles all the time...thought since the nerf I might have some trouble

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

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Soon or later the scarabs will run in the underworld... and then like griffons wil be opne, a constant cycle

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Diabloâ„¢
haha, throw in about 8 Fog Nightmares, 12 Azure Spirits, some extra Aviacara Wilds and at least 10 Giant Frost Wurms all bunched up at the door of Drognars Forge. That'll REALLY spice things up.
Then how would you get to ice caves of sorrow ????? From droks?

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Dryders are in the Northern Shiverpeaks, my friend.
North, not south.