Carry weapons on your back?

Lawnmower

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

This may might have been asked before, but would anyone else like to see the option of having weapons on your avatars back?


a picture i found from zelda:P




So it is like, you can put your sword and shield/staff on your back while in town, or not fighting while on a mission. Yeah it's probably a gimmick but I think it would rock to have, just for show off:P I really love the weapons in the game, and I think it's to bad you can't show off in towns what you got

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Has been discussed already, and yes they should allow this.

farmerfez

farmerfez

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

You should know

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I've bin thinkin about that and ive bin like WOH yeah that'd b awesome...

ThY[Ninj]

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

NC

Burning Sun Ninjas

R/Me

yeah i agree. so what happens to our weapons in town anyways? :O

Minus Sign

Minus Sign

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/N

They disappear into our Kinder bag of infinite HOLDING!!!

Only thing I worry about is, by adding 2 more things ontop of face/clothes hair and skin color to every character in town, we'd get lag to lower bandwidth users. Add to that, people can swap weapons which might further increase bandwidth needs (Imagine a "sit-down" like the THK strike last month, but with everyone tapping F1 and F2 time and again; "changing" their character with ease and sending those changes to everyone who 'sees" them). I reserve signing this until someone can proove that won't be a problem.

Valdaran Longfoot

Valdaran Longfoot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Colorado, US

Furious Dragons Reign [FDR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minus Sign
They disappear into our Kinder bag of infinite HOLDING!!!

Only thing I worry about is, by adding 2 more things ontop of face/clothes hair and skin color to every character in town, we'd get lag to lower bandwidth users. Add to that, people can swap weapons which might further increase bandwidth needs (Imagine a "sit-down" like the THK strike last month, but with everyone tapping F1 and F2 time and again; "changing" their character with ease and sending those changes to everyone who 'sees" them). I reserve signing this until someone can proove that won't be a problem.
One of the very few things I like more about WoW over GW is the showing of weapons on your back, but there is a very easy soultion.

Have an option for turning on/off showing others weapons. Would not be too hard to do, its the same as a helmet but applies to others, not yourself.

Lawnmower

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Valdaran Longfoot
One of the very few things I like more about WoW over GW is the showing of weapons on your back, but there is a very easy soultion.

Have an option for turning on/off showing others weapons. Would not be too hard to do, its the same as a helmet but applies to others, not yourself.
Thats an awesome idea mate. That could really work


Boy I just wish ArenaNet could see this suggestion or someone could tell gailie

IJs de Beer

IJs de Beer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

On the well-known Mudball

Mo/Me

update imo

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

E/Me

I have to say I like it

Toben_Hexx

Toben_Hexx

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guardians of Shadow Pass

Me/N

It would be nice.

Something that could make this feature different from other games is, you maybe could decide where the weapon will be on you, have more than one set visible on you, and also have shealths. There could be different sheaths for different swords and such, which could be dyed...another money sink.

Alcazanar

Alcazanar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cavalon (swe)

Desert Flame [DF]

W/N

yes it would absolutely be awesome to have but thats why
it wont ever happen..

i mean think seriously, would gw staff make such non-needed update?
i think not

Toben_Hexx

Toben_Hexx

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guardians of Shadow Pass

Me/N

Theres alot of non-needed things in GW. If there wasn't any fluff in mmo's, you might as well go paper and pencil

Seren!ty

Seren!ty

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

[iDum]

R/E

/Signed

I also would like to see a bag on your back to put arrows in, in combat areas. It looks stupid now... grabbing infinite arrows out of nowhere

cup-o-noodles

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/R

Well, the newer thread got closed soooo....

/sign-n-dump

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

i would like it

/signed

but its gonna be like WoW

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

sword on back looks cool?

Logically, it's a VERY bad idea to have sword on your back. Because the time it takes for you to pull out your sword from your back is 4 times as sword tied to your waist...

That's why samurai warriors always have their sword by their side and not back...simply because if you pull your sword from your back, you'll be dead before your sword even come out.

jummeth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

London

Diary of a Madman [SiKK]

200 animated wands offhands swords axes hammers....

Bandwidth...

its cute, but the vanity is there already. Also it'd save people going can I see your weapon as soon as you enter town.

Also are you gonna have all your 4 weapons slots showing etc?
Could be good to see, that people intend to weapon swap.

BahamutKaiser

BahamutKaiser

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Heightened state of mind.

P/W

Sure, come here and let me tuck this flaming sword under your cape

This is a bad idea for many reasons, I could see them allowing your shield to be tied to your back, but I would rather see new cape types made rather than swords tied to ppls backs. Cloaks, hooded cloaks, capes with risers over the shoulders, at the very least a cape which drappes over your shoulders, like Vampire Hunter D or that other vamp in BloodLust.

You keep trying to stick that flaming sword under your cape though, and wile your at it, tuck that shocking axe between your legs And they can make wand holsters so the casters don't feel left out.

Rikimaru

Rikimaru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/

I Like this idea a lot. And someone might have pointed out an issue of clipping with cloaks, but I don't think that would be very hard to fix at all.
Cloaks are already unable to pass through your character, so they could either place them underneath the cloak and make it unable to move through it or the character, or they could place them over the top of the cloak and have the cloak stuck in place wherever it is covered (I like the first idea better though).
And, the weapons aren't even actually on fire. That same logic (if you were serious) could be used to say that your flaming sword should set your bag on fire when you place it inside.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

As long as there was the option to turn it off (for obvious reasons already stated). No point in spending all that gold on a weapon when no one is going to see it.

Undivine

Undivine

of Brackenwood

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ontario, Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
Logically, it's a VERY bad idea to have sword on your back. Because the time it takes for you to pull out your sword from your back is 4 times as sword tied to your waist...
Well, a sword at your side is just fine for light swords like the katana, but for heavier weapons you're going to want it on your back, regardless of the speed of the draw.

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

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Cool idea but then how will the cape show if it has to go over a sword hilt sticking as high as your head? One could make it that you choose either the weaps or the cape. Just be careful not to cut yourself with your poisonous axe or we'll see your body lying somewhere

/signed

Boomer the Gnome

Boomer the Gnome

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

If you want this done right you got to let a gnome explain it.

I've always liked this idea if you want to know how its got to be done correctly here we go.

When in a town or outpost your weapondry would be on your back/waist. I don't know what to say for casters though. Be able to have staves out at all times?
Swords or axes can be on the waist but shields go on the back. Daggers on the waist, as for hammers you should carry them around like you go when walking: have them on over the shoulder thats so neat. Oh and bows would be on the back. Infact if you have for instance a shield equiped but a bow as your primary weapon the shield would be still visable.

I could even go a step farther and say the weapon sets you have set would all be visable.

When you zone into an explorable area your character when loaded would do a neat little sword/axe/shield dagger/dagger or hammer draw animation. Sort of an ego booster as they are running in a danger zone.

You should be able to turn the undrawn weapons on/off


Logistics or not..It's a game! It doesn't have to be real or make sense at all. So what if you have a fiery dragon sword or other kin undrawn on your belt? It'll look cool and make those town trips more interesting.

bulletsmile

bulletsmile

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

I live in Konglevegen

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
As long as there was the option to turn it off (for obvious reasons already stated). No point in spending all that gold on a weapon when no one is going to see it.
so true, you can't go around "I'm wielding a Totem Axe" all day to show your weapon

it would also be cooler to dye your weapon special this way

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

If you can turn the feature off then

/signed

Rikimaru

Rikimaru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/

I Posted this in another thread, but it was closed.
Here's where I think the sheathed weapons should be placed on your character:
Wands should be on the right side of your waist.
Focus' should be on the left side of your waist. (Right if you are using a small sword with one.)
Daggers should be one on each side of your waist.
Certain swords should probably be on the left side of your waist. (Depends on the size whether they should be on your back or not.)
Most swords should be on your back.
Hammers should be on your back (head facing down), or over the shoulder like Boomer said.
Staffs should be on your back.
Axes should be on your back.
Shields should be on your back, over the weapon you have with it.
Bows should be on your back.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Waist not waste

This has been suggested before, but I think weapons should be strapped to the side (scabbard or such) or just held in the hand if it's a staff or some such. Weapons/shields on the back would interfere with capes.

They will probably still have clipping issues if on the side anyway, but yes, would be a nice addition if the clipping could be resolved and it was optional to turn it off so you don't see everyone's weapons (to reduce any performance hits)

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

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I don't know about caster items. A staff on the back is silly imo as is a wand on the waist. The others are ok for me.

BahamutKaiser

BahamutKaiser

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Heightened state of mind.

P/W

There is no logic to bags, only convenience. You don't see a backpack actually on your character do you? nor 2 large bags, you don't even see things hanging off your belt.

I would like a game where you could only carry what you could carry...... any extra weapons would be visible, your satchel would be small, and unless you brang some sort of beast of burden, you wouldn't be able to carry much belongings, nor collect much. And since it is realistic, every enemy who dies leaves behind every article of equipment they were using, but you have to choose what you can afford to take with your realistic inventory. Great idea for another game.

Putting your flaming sword in your bag which is totaly non exsistant on your character is totaly different, just like the 4 sets of weapons which you switch to and the 40 hammers your dragging around, it is one of those convinient oversights which allows us to play without realistic burdens. They could likewise make us look unrealistic with flaming (and other elemental) weapons holstered on us, but if it doesn't work well, why do it at all.

Towns already have the more lag than any other locations, with up to 100 or so ppl logged into one district, adding 1 or 2 carried items will exponentially increase the lag, 2 more items X every person in a district, as if we need it.

Not only that, your not just asking for these to be visible, but your asking for a new aspect which allows you to attach these weapons to your side or you back, added display programing for no other purpose but vanity, which will increase lag in the places we have the most of it....... it isn't a good idea, whether you want it or not.

They are already investing in "town" cloths, that way people can dress down and look nice in town, Anet is doing what they can to decorate characters with nice appealing equipment which they will enjoy in town, if holstering weapons, or displaying them at all, is a reasonable addition then they probably would have done it already. They are already working on ways to improve what you can see in town, perhaps they can make some town armor that looks like you have a sword by your side or a greatsword on your back, but we don't need more loading time in towns just so 90 people you don't care about can vainly show off their weapons.

Join Mattu Keep district 1 and then consider this some more.

As for flaming weapons setting yourself on fire, most of the weapons could be "deactivated" so the flames arn't burning on the pronged weapon, whatever else on each weapon, that is something else they could add with this if they really needed too, but it is alot of work for little reason IMO, Rangers should have visible quivers on their back in battle before everyone else starts carrying their weapons in town. This idea goes way down at the bottom of the list of things to improve, after adding many other things including better bandwidth that way we can actually function with this sort of addition.

cup-o-noodles

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/R

About the cape issuses. I always just figured that the weapons would go over the cape.

And do we actually have a statement that says Anet is really investing in town clothes?

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Instead of them showing up, how about multiple weapon/offhand slots? This would help with people who have several weapons, for example warriors, who have swords, axes, and hammers, for different builds. These could be like new F1, F2, F3, F4 slots. This would also prevent you accidentally selling one of your very good weapons because of lag or whatever.

Cassie McKnight

Cassie McKnight

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Order of the Dingo

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S H I N O B I

S H I N O B I

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

PSC

R/W

WoW has weird looking flame/glowing swds that are just "Pasted" on the back and it seems fine... I mean if a GW character can just magically pull out weapons out of thin air while in game, why not have the ability to "paste" the weps on the back? lol


-Having a swd (provided its not too long) worn on the back (slanted) instead of the side has an advantage in cramped or tight areas. This enables the person to have a better range of movement and not have the swd sheath get in the way when moving around.

-Maybe depending on the type of weapon used, it could either be placed on the back or at the sides....



/signed

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BahamutKaiser
As for flaming weapons setting yourself on fire, most of the weapons could be "deactivated" so the flames arn't burning on the pronged weapon
It's supposed to be a magical hilt/grip/haft/etc. You can't turn it off as if it were a lightbulb.