New cost for "tatoo" fow armor

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

Yeah, maybe about 10-15 less Shards in total. That would about even up the cost.

Hailfall

Hailfall

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Germany

Phantom Commando

N/

!!!!

It took me so long to get the FOW tunic.. and been wanting to get the gloves.. so now I have to look for both shards and ectos.. *grmbl*

BlackRecluse

BlackRecluse

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

[Dark]

W/

dont complain, i had to use ecto/shards for my mesmer enchanters.

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by rayne2550
I suppose it's fair, I mean Mesmer's Enchanters, Ranger's Druids, Warrior's Gladiator's and Elementalist's armor always required shards, so I suppose it's a balancing act.

So I guess A-Nets aim here was to make all FoW armor across all professions near equal in price, which is honestly fair.
Indeed from that point of view it is fair, but why make it fair after almost a year since the release of the game and just one month before factions arrives? And why in such a sneaky way?

Kitty

Kitty

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Germany

EI

N/Me

Well, all other FoW Armours, that have rare materials only need 35 of them... and the 7P cheeper won't buy you that much vellum. I think they should ballance it out by reducing the amount of ectos and shards you need a bit, perhaps only 85 instead of 105, or something like that.

cronos89

cronos89

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Broken Arms

W/Mo

Dont cry ,Lady Cream is just a photoshop faker.

Anet will never do that without annouce it in the update list.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

mm maybe your right, the red text is overlapping the ecto symbol

Mister Muhkuh

Mister Muhkuh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Germany

Ugly Ducklings [ugly]

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cronos89
Dont cry ,Lady Cream is just a photoshop faker.

Anet will never do that without annouce it in the update list.
she is no faker

i went down there to see it with my own eyes...

and yes...

it is true

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Well, theres go my chance of ever getting monk FoW

*Damn you Anet!*

Lowly Peasant

Lowly Peasant

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

I love it when Anet "fixes" things and makes them far worse than they ever were... So long fissure armor. This just screws the people that don't farm.

Ghalheon

Ghalheon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

France

The Broken Arms

N/Mo

what is unfair is that I and others who have tatoo/scar didn't paid 105 shards and now people should pay...

I saved ectos for monk tatoo I have 65 but now I shoud also save for 103 shards kill me now, that will take more time... no ANet I won't buy any ecto and shards to make the price go up I'll drop everything as if it'll be longer...

Haggard

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

as with all things, its become a vicious circle, which has razor edges to keep new players out

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Well this seems almost typical Anet modus operandi - don't tell anyone what you are doing.

Lady Cream

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by cronos89
Dont cry ,Lady Cream is just a photoshop faker.

Anet will never do that without annouce it in the update list.
Sorry, I have better to do. And yes, they did, as Mister Muhkuh confirmed.

Grimm

Grimm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

Necromancers don't have tattoos. They have scar patterns.

nitrile

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Vellum is a totally insignificant expense compared to 105 shards not to mention ectos. If you really believe otherwise you ought to look at guildwiki's crafter pages, and pick up all those raven/shadow staves and dark remains you always said you hated. Anyone can craft 350 vellum after less then 8 long fow trips just from what they pick up. I'm glad this imbalance has finally been fixed - welcome to the undiscounted reality the rest of us with fow armour set aspirations for other chars have had to live with.

However - advance notice of this change should have been posted somewhere, as it is very unfair on people who had expected to buy imminently only to find "christmas" got postponed to the tune of 400k, and that is rather underhanded.

Vwoss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Leader of Communist Communist Revolution (CCR)

It is in the update notes. However, that doesn't change the fact that 15k tats are starting to look very appealing.

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Hmm... it seemed like an attempt to balance shard and ecto price. Now ecto is needed a less and shard needed some more.

I should have kept my shards longer until it hit inflation.

Sha Noran

Sha Noran

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

http://tinyurl.com/2jlusq

Idiot Savants [iQ]

R/

My only complaint is that it is rather unfair to the people who will now have to save up 105 shards to get the tats/scars, SIMPLY BECAUSE others purchased their sets for so much less. Honestly it doesn't matter which way they went, because the cost of vellum is offset in the 8k cost portion alone; there really is no need to also take off the entire shard requirement. THAT SAID, it is still unfair that so many people before were given the cheaper price and that now countless people will have to pay 400k more. It may or may not have been an erroneous price before, but regardless, this is something that I believe it was simply too late to change.

koneko

Site Contributor

Join Date: Sep 2005

38??16′ N 140??52′ E

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by xBakox
Farmbots dont where 15k tats. Thats 60k+ more they could have sold on eBay..

*EDIT* bah 32k+. Still thats quite a bit of *real* money they could have made off eBay. You get my point.
To me, tats are tats. Your Monk may have 8k tats, but it's still half-naked. That's a no-no in my book for "style." I jumped directly from the el cheapo Wanderer's set from the Forge to a set of Fissure Ascetic's just because tats are, well, so common. (Yes, Ascetic's is common now also. You're missing the point I'm trying to make in my sleep-deprived state )

If you're crazy enough to grind for 105 ectos, you're crazy enough to keep griding for 105 shards, as "unfair" as this change is. Would I grind for 105 more shards (350-400k) if I hadn't bought my set weeks ago even with Factions right around the corner? For sure.

monkorama

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

teh monionfactory

Mo/N

I sold all my ectos 5 minutes ago

I'l not going to save for shards and more ectos when factions is comming....
But can u use ur money from gw in gw factions?

Mister Muhkuh

Mister Muhkuh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Germany

Ugly Ducklings [ugly]

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sha Noran
My only complaint is that it is rather unfair to the people who will now have to save up 105 shards to get the tats/scars, SIMPLY BECAUSE others purchased their sets for so much less. Honestly it doesn't matter which way they went, because the cost of vellum is offset in the 8k cost portion alone; there really is no need to also take off the entire shard requirement. THAT SAID, it is still unfair that so many people before were given the cheaper price and that now countless people will have to pay 400k more. It may or may not have been an erroneous price before, but regardless, this is something that I believe it was simply too late to change.
100% how i think about it...

Cottage Pie

Cottage Pie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowly Peasant
I love it when Anet "fixes" things and makes them far worse than they ever were... So long fissure armor. This just screws the people that don't farm.

Merchanting is 50 times faster than farming if you wan't money, i've farmed the UW and drop rates suck...only faster way is ebay/gold site, which, considering the amount of time you'd need to spend farming is actually very sensible.


And if you can't farm Ectos in a speedy manner, can't merchant and ain't gonna buy the gold, then just give up on FoW, the amount of time spent killing griffs or whatever just isn't justifyable...it's not for everybody (see 15k armours)


I agree with this update though, Tats have always been the most expensive monk armour, wasn't right that Tats FoW was cheaper than the other sets, and 400k or so in shards isn't a huge barrier to the people who play clever and can afford FoW anyway.

For a laugh I Experted my monk FoW Ascetic handwraps (they're crap anyway, 15k wanderers handwraps>everything) and they gave me shards =D and I got my FoW before the 'update' ^^ Fr33 shardz omg?!11

Rex Cora

Rex Cora

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sha Noran
My only complaint is that it is rather unfair to the people who will now have to save up 105 shards to get the tats/scars, SIMPLY BECAUSE others purchased their sets for so much less. Honestly it doesn't matter which way they went, because the cost of vellum is offset in the 8k cost portion alone; there really is no need to also take off the entire shard requirement. THAT SAID, it is still unfair that so many people before were given the cheaper price and that now countless people will have to pay 400k more. It may or may not have been an erroneous price before, but regardless, this is something that I believe it was simply too late to change.
CORRECT.

I was just about to get this armor for my monk and saved up for months and the day I go to get it *waited one extra day for a guildie to go with us* and this update makes me pay anthor 400k+. A complete joke can not even say how I feel about this *MAD* in these forums or I would be banned. Please fix this *BUG* this should not require shards. So unfair for us to change this now........after so many others got it 400k+ cheaper

Da Cebuano

Da Cebuano

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Virginia born in Cebu

Jelly Toast[jT]

W/

Well, I don't wanna beat on a dead horse, but the 8k tats look horrible(sorry for those w/ super 1337 armor inspirations who have to settle for the next best thing), its basically a zebra stripe w/ the only redeeming factor of it covering the whole body w/ less space gaps. IMHO droknar dragon art tats are the only way to go. Less expensive and more artful detail.

Man, I'm glad I own my monk ascetics(although I got it about 2-3months back already), makes me feel like one of the lucky ones that bought a soon to be extinct item and kept it. I never did have the insight to buy HOD swords and FFS(never even heard of it then) even when it was offered in my face and could've crafted it. Man, I'm missing out on all these sales

Anyway, GL, anet should really nerf the cost of craftings tats, their mats required is simply ludicrous. That would be the only nerf I would support. ALong w/ the price of charcoal, I mean it cost way more to craft steel/deldrimor than just to buy it by itself. 200 for charcoal? WTF!

Also, ALOT of *us* didn't get it "cheaper" most people seem to forget that ecto once reached about 11k per(although people only bought for 10k per) and that for the longest time. Vellum was also quite expensive back then, I remember making money off merchants by crafting vellum and selling it to merchant for 500g per, made about 300g income per vellum. Back then, the majority of the people who got their fow payed about the same amount you guys are now paying for yoru fow w/ shard, or atleast very close.

Although yeah, I noticed when ecto price dropped, the FOW armor generation came to bloom and every other guy was running w/ fow. Kinda made the armor less prestigious but I got it for looks in the first place. Feel sorry for the guys who were "almost there" especially those who didn't get it only cause of bad groups. I know that can be annoying, in this case ******* ******** *****

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

FoW armors for monks and necros... too bad i have warrior ranger and ele

King Of Kings

King Of Kings

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Forged Through Destiny

W/Mo

Yeah Necro scar pattern and Monk tattoos now require shards in order to balance out the cost of FoW armor. It was stupid that some classes got the FoW armor for so much cheaper than others. I've got FoW on my warrior and ranger but i've got a monk and necro left so yeah i'm a bit bitter about it but i'm also think its fair.

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

I'm not even dreaming of FoW armour. That is never meant for me. This price change does nothing for me. In a few weeks from now I'll be playing Factions anyway.

MelechRic

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

There's always eBay gold. Seriously, 500k for <$20 U.S. If you're dying to have that FoW set then that's the way to go. If you consider the time it takes as a player to accumlate 500k gold, then consider how much your hourly wage is, it makes $20 look like chump change.

*whistles* *looks around* *sneaks off to eBay**

Griff Mon

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

I don't know - FoW armour will always be special. The new armour in Factions might get people worked up and maybe there will be an equivalent in Factions that is outrageously pricey, but I like it, don't have, but I like it.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

I got my monk's ascetics months back and my necro scars 4 days before the nerf. It was a bad idea to nerf them - i bet a huge number of people were disappointed whilst they were saving. Do anet want people to ebay and support that annoying chinese farming industry? ...maybe anet runs it.

Hello Kitty

Hello Kitty

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
I got my monk's ascetics months back and my necro scars 4 days before the nerf. It was a bad idea to nerf them - i bet a huge number of people were disappointed whilst they were saving. Do anet want people to ebay and support that annoying chinese farming industry? ...maybe anet runs it.
I think Anet was just wanting to treat everyone fairly here - it might have burnt a few people that were in the process of saving up, but it's not fair that other classes don't have such an option to get FoW armor so cheap.

remmeh

remmeh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Apathy Inc [AI]

R/Mo

ANet should at least publish these changes. I'm sure many a monk went down to FoW to get their armor and then realized they were 105 shards short.