Bloodstained boots vs 20/20 staff

swiftygem

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

I'm using Bortak's bone staff and it seems that when the animate casting time gets halved and the other bonus from Bloodstained boots is applied, there is no casting progress indicator. Bit annoying.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Thats because casts of 1 sec or lower get no Indicator.

Bortaks would make the 3 sec into 1.5 secs, and 25% off that would be ~1 sec or alittle less.

Thus no indicator.

swiftygem

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hmm should be 1.1s when rounded, but OK, I'll take that as a feature, not bug

forever

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

25% off 1.5 seconds would be 1.125 seconds. I have no idea how the game rounds the time, maybe it's rounded to 1 second.
BTW, you can target yourself before you cast animate spells, then you can see the spell casting progress indicator of your target (this time it's yourself).

4thVariety

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

European Union

ADL

E/

Bloodstained boots offer a 100% chance for 25% acceleration, if it hits the 20% from an item it stacks to a 75% shorter casting time.
that would be a whooping 3/4 of a second to summon a fiend.

Fred Kiwi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

[cola]

so blood boots have been fixed?

legendel

legendel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

UK

League of Friends (LOF)

R/

according to update 9th march notes, yes

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4thVariety
Bloodstained boots offer a 100% chance for 25% acceleration, if it hits the 20% from an item it stacks to a 75% shorter casting time.
that would be a whooping 3/4 of a second to summon a fiend.
mmmm, that is so juicy. Time to be a MM again

Caelus The Fallen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Glasgow

Voice of the Darkness

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diabloâ„¢
mmmm, that is so juicy. Time to be a MM again
Yes, if his maths wasnt completely wrong.
75% of 50% is 37.5%, not 25%. Percentages stack geometrically, not arithmetically.

AnnaCloud9

AnnaCloud9

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Minnesota

Well if you're bored, then you're boring!

R/

Stone Summit Gnashers are equipped with these boots as well now (or they have been since day one, just turned on with the update). I've seen them summon a Fiend in a second now, still beating me to the corpse with my boots and my 20/20 staff.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

I'd go corpse denial with those Gnashers, putrid explosion or necrotic traversal.. either will be faster than those gnashers can summon.

MelechRic

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

If you're farming then you want those corpses for minions so denial is not an option to be used lightly. I find that it works out well to put Putrid Explosion on the bar, but to use it very selectively/defensively. It should be used in the following situations:

1. You have just cast both your animate minion and horror but there's still a corpse down. Prevent it from becoming an enemy well or minion by doing putrid.

2. It's the first corpse down and you want to cause gnashers/binders/marrow scarabs to waste time and energy casting their corpse exploitation spell. I mostly use this in desert with the scarabs but it works in SF too. BOOM 126 damage and 25e wasted by at least 1 or more scarabs. (Gnashers/Binders recover from this faster but it still helps IMHO.) Plus they pay the recharge penalty on the aborted spell. Since they will be dead soon there's little chance they will get a well up/minion up.

You could use consume corpse if you want since it's a 1 second cast, but then you may find yourself in the middle of some trouble. It's a bad idea in the desert if you're queen farming because of all the nest builder's traps.

Just my $0.02.

viper008

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

sorry for asking this but which 20/20 staff?

AnnaCloud9

AnnaCloud9

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Minnesota

Well if you're bored, then you're boring!

R/

I'm a die-hard collector staff user, so it would be the blue (yes blue ) Bone Staff from the collector north of Camp Rankor (20/20 Death Magic attribute)
Bring him 5 Mountain Troll Tusks, and he'll be happy to give you the best Death Magic staff the game can offer, without all the silly nonsense of paying an arm and a leg *(only my opinion of course)*

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

YES my Necro rocks that much more.

Tainek

Tainek

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

[Rage]

Simple solution really, be N/R and use frozen soil (no points for quick use), veratas and blood of the master is effective enough to keep a decent army

gou

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

globally warmed england

the discarnate

an interesting sidenote, those bone staves dye really well. Look downright evil in black too

viper008

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9
I'm a die-hard collector staff user, so it would be the blue (yes blue ) Bone Staff from the collector north of Camp Rankor (20/20 Death Magic attribute)
Bring him 5 Mountain Troll Tusks, and he'll be happy to give you the best Death Magic staff the game can offer, without all the silly nonsense of paying an arm and a leg *(only my opinion of course)*
Thanks for the reply and I will grab one when I get a chance

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9
Stone Summit Gnashers are equipped with these boots as well now (or they have been since day one, just turned on with the update). I've seen them summon a Fiend in a second now, still beating me to the corpse with my boots and my 20/20 staff.

Were you the one excited about the prospect of beating them to it in an earlier post? lol...it only goes to reason thouhg

as for beating them try a bortak's cesta + boots + rare 10% all fast cast wand as the wand and cesta appear to stack...I've had instacasts before the boots were fixed...

Raziel665

Raziel665

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

N/Mo

I used Bortaks Claw for 20% faster cast and a 20/20 focus when fighting Stone Summit. Now, with the boots, I can use my 20/20 collecter staff with +5 energy and +1 Death more often.

Pan Sola

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caelus The Fallen
Yes, if his maths wasnt completely wrong.
75% of 50% is 37.5%, not 25%. Percentages stack geometrically, not arithmetically.
Independent probablities stack multiplicatively, not additively. There is no fixed way of stacking percentages, without being given additional information.

Evan The Cursed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pan Sola
Independent probablities stack multiplicatively, not additively. There is no fixed way of stacking percentages, without being given additional information.
Pan beat me to it. I don't believe we have enough info yet. Someone get a stopwatch.