Skill list suggestion

LoneDust

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

You know how on the forums, if you move the mouse over a message link some content of the message will show up in a bubble? I'm not sure how much actual work will required to do this, but maybe you can do the same thing to the skill list?
If you could make a bubble for skill description to pop out when you mouse-over a specific skill, that'll make browsing through the skills a lot easier.
Thanks

THX

THX

Before all else, be armed.

Join Date: Dec 2004

Canada

I'm not sure exactly how we could implement this, as it would probably require quite a bit of backend work. Nevertheless, it has been noted

BlackArrow

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2005

I'd prefer that I wouldn't have to click the skill to see the description. Having them all laid out on one page would be great (like KT)

THX

THX

Before all else, be armed.

Join Date: Dec 2004

Canada

We will most likely allow [at some point] visitors to view category-linked skills on a single page; but this will be alongside individual skill pages as we are able to display much more information without things becoming cluttered.

Darkmane

Darkmane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by LoneDust
You know how on the forums, if you move the mouse over a message link some content of the message will show up in a bubble? I'm not sure how much actual work will required to do this, but maybe you can do the same thing to the skill list?
If you could make a bubble for skill description to pop out when you mouse-over a specific skill, that'll make browsing through the skills a lot easier.
Thanks It can actually be accomplished pretty easily using 'alt' and or 'title' some web tools only use one or the other so its best to use both.. like this:

Code:
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                      <img src="http://www.guildwarsguru.com/img/scroll.jpg" width="15" height="14">
                      <a class="article_link" href="http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content/aura-of-restoration-id193.php" alt="For 60 seconds, you are healed for 152-350% of the energy cost each time you cast a spell" Title="For 60 seconds, you are healed for 152-350% of the energy cost each time you cast a spell"><span class="subject">Aura
                      of Restoration</span></a><br>
                      <div class="summary">
                        Enchantment Spell, 10en - 1/4cast - 20recharge
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Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Alt is restricted to a certain length - plus its contrary to its real purpose as defined by web standards. And I hate circumventing/abusing web standards. Of course title would work just as well, but just like alt, it only shows a certain number of characters.

Sarus

Sarus

Ministry of Technology

Join Date: Feb 2005

Washington D.C.

Idiot Savants

Mo/

alt isn't a good way to do it. Besides being a misuse of their intended purpose they are slow to appear when you hover over an image and they can only be used in conjunction with an image.

You can do it with css, jscript, and/or dhtml.

Anywayz ... hopefully we'll have a new system up in the near future that'll make it much easier to modify how the skills are displayed.

Currently it's pretty hard to do even minor aesthetic changes to any of the page layouts.

Darkmane

Darkmane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Whew.. ok

I apologize for suggesting using a HTML tag for an unintended purpose. I spose you could do it with a javascript and a mapped image popup. That would work. I didnt realize it was difficult to edit your pages...

My mistake... also..

On this page

Code:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content/armor-of-frost-id196.php
You do not have listed this skill's linked attribute.

And on this page:

Code:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content/armor-of-mist-id197.php
You have the skill's Linked attribute set to 'Air' 

When the skill is listed under 'Water' ...

so is this skill 'Air' or 'Water' ?

I apologize again for suggesting using an HTML tag for an unintended purpose.

Ellestar

Ellestar

Munchking

Join Date: Mar 2005

Russian Federation, Moscow

Ladder to Hell (ATM playing with Rus Corp)

You can try this mod.
http://www.phpmix.com/index.php?page=213&t=363
It's open source and you can change it to something like "Posting Rules" at the bottom of this page.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarus
Currently it's pretty hard to do even minor aesthetic changes to any of the page layouts. You don't use a database to store information about skills? IMHO it's a bad idea. I can help with it if you want.

Edit: For example
Code:
Changes in 'select_expand_bbcodes.js'

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1) Line 41 - Change
this.size = this.min = 40;
to
this.size = this.min = 12;

2) Line 53 - Remove 

	if( (document.selection && !SXBB_IsIEMac()) || (document.createRange && (document.getSelection || window.getSelection)) )
	{
		s += this.genCmd('select', this.T['select']);
	}


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Changes in 'domination-magic-id72.php'

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1) add after '<body>'

<script type="text/javascript" src="select_expand_bbcodes.js" tppabs="http://www.phpmix.com/phpBB2/templates/select_expand_bbcodes.js"></script>


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2) add before '<a class="article_link" href="arcane-thievery-id398.php.htm"'

<script type="text/javascript">

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        var id = 'SXBB' + (1000 + Math.floor(Math.random() * 5000));
        SXBB[id] = new _SXBB(id);
        SXBB[id].T['expand'] = '+';
        SXBB[id].T['contract'] = '-';
        SXBB[id].writeCmd();

//-->

</script>
&nbsp

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3) add after 'Spell, 10en - 2cast - 10recharge'

<script type="text/javascript">

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        SXBB[id].writeDiv();

//-->

</script>

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<br>Originally Published by <span class="contentarea2"><b>Spooky</b>


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    <td width="120" class="creature_table"><div align="right"><strong>Description</strong></div></td>
    <td>For 5-29 seconds, one random spell is disabled for target foe, and Arcane Thievery is replaced by that spell.</td>
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    <td class="creature_table"><div align="right"><strong>Energy Cost </strong></div></td>
    <td>10</td>
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    <td class="creature_table"><div align="right"><strong>Casting Time </strong></div></td>
    <td>2 seconds</td>
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    <td class="creature_table"><div align="right"><strong>Recharge Time</strong></div></td>
    <td>10 seconds</td>
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    <td class="creature_table"><div align="right"><strong>Skill Type </strong></div></td>
    <td>Spell</td>
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    <td class="creature_table"><div align="right"><strong>Linked Attribute </strong></div></td>
    <td>Domination Magic</td>
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And vBulletin forums use something like this
http://www.sam-i-am.com/work/sandbox...e_display.html (it's one of the search results on google using a search string "style.display")
Looks like it's exactly what you need (and i need it too for my database )

Sarus

Sarus

Ministry of Technology

Join Date: Feb 2005

Washington D.C.

Idiot Savants

Mo/

Quote:
You don't use a database to store information about skills? IMHO it's a bad idea. I can help with it if you want. Not at the moment. Also, just for the record I'm not actually in charge of anything here at gwguru, hehe. I just had a discussion with THX a few days ago about skills and we're hopefully gonna be moving over to a DB system.

Just a matter of time. Also, it won't fit into the current CMS system so we have to figure some things out there.

Virtuoso

Virtuoso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Maybe you could just make it so that it parses posts and automatically creates a link to the skill on the site? For example, if you posted with the words "Final Thrust" in your post then it would automatically make it a link to Final Thrust in your database. I've seen other forums do it. It can't be too difficult.

-Virt

RedRabbit

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Yes, the way skills are displayed really needs to change. I want to use this site for skill information, as it's probably the most up-to-date, but clicking every skill is tedious and forces me to go to other sites. :/ I don't want to advertise or anything, but I really like how gwonline presents them.

THX

THX

Before all else, be armed.

Join Date: Dec 2004

Canada

Thanks to Ellestar and Sarus, we should have an easier to use skill listing setup.

Ellestar

Ellestar

Munchking

Join Date: Mar 2005

Russian Federation, Moscow

Ladder to Hell (ATM playing with Rus Corp)

Quote:
Originally Posted by THX
Thanks to Ellestar and Sarus, we should have an easier to use skill listing setup. Noone described that new skill setup you want to get.